View Full Version : Guess Who showed up on Thelanis today?
DoctorWhofan
06-18-2008, 03:23 PM
The person in question, which I will call D, showed up today after a hiatus. Do I partied with him to see if his rep is still there.
Things I learned about D
He knows how to play the game, rather well, knows what spells to take, etc.
He still has a very short attention span and talks alot.
He knows the quests, and the tactics for each quest.
He is very generous, and kind.
He has been told to cut the chatter to minium and type. And to listen to the leader.
He has been told why no one wants to party with him.
He now understands why, and has said that he would try to improve himself.
He is currently unguilded. But he asked to join mine. I said he had to earn it.
He, a guildie and I did a little running in the Orchard. He has it down to a science, and got bored in a few minutes. He had complained about noone running raid with him, especially shroud stuff (he is Shroud ready, unlike me) and I explianed you need to listen to the leader. I told him to stay near the cleric at all times unless told otherwise. That seemed to help. He didin't run off the the four corners and when we did split up he regrouped with me.
In Conclusion, he IS better, but not enough to run a raid with him yet. However, I am known for my patience, many of you may not have the same conclusion as I. Therefore, for the server, will take the responsiblity to try to retrain him. He's a really nice kid, figured the game out pretty good, but needs to calm down before (at least I know) the server will take him on anything but the Reaver raid.
So you see me with D looking for members, which can be hopeless I know, and you have the time, find it in your heart to join and help him out. I am not going party with him all the time, nor will I raid with him outside REaver, but simple-well known quests are in and wwas explained that it will help him do raids if others saw his improvement.
juniorpfactors
06-18-2008, 03:26 PM
LoL
did you know i saw a Dragon in the market place today...lol
Ringos
06-18-2008, 03:51 PM
Lol...I JUST saw him on my new Alt. Thank God for the shared Friends List! :)
Sent him a Tell to welcome him back...he asked if we had people watching for his arrival!
Xaearth
06-18-2008, 03:53 PM
Well good luck! :o
And I'm sure once he's ready people would overlook the name for one of your famous TS runs :D.
Durack
06-18-2008, 03:54 PM
rubs hands together and lets out a sinister chuckle........ You know what the infamous bring a certain flair to the game don't they :D
Impaqt
06-18-2008, 04:07 PM
Your a Saint Trissa.
Ringos
06-18-2008, 04:26 PM
I'll do my best to join you for the group-thing. :)
DoctorWhofan
06-18-2008, 04:37 PM
I'll do my best to join you for the group-thing. :)
He mentioned you btw. I told him that you were a very nice player and to listen to you.
Inspire
06-18-2008, 04:46 PM
Shortmanned(4/6) Inferno On Hard With Him Today, No Problems... After His Mic Turned Off:D
Inspire
06-18-2008, 04:48 PM
I Gotta Give It To Him Though, If There Is Something In This Game That Can Be Charmed, He Can Charm It! Hound Raid Here He Comes!
Talon_Moonshadow
06-18-2008, 04:50 PM
I'll join you.
I'll even raid with him. I can't afford to die too many times, but I don't care if we fail.
A dragon raid would be ok. Von 5 can't really be screwed up, and in Von 6 you usually can only die once.
Don't mean that to sound negative....I'm actually trying to point out that the risk is minimal for most of us to try to help him/you out. He does love dragons.
DoctorWhofan
06-18-2008, 04:52 PM
I Gotta Give It To Him Though, If There Is Something In This Game That Can Be Charmed, He Can Charm It! Hound Raid Here He Comes!
He is good player. He is controlling his zerging and talking. That's really good. The kid got himself to 16 even when the rest of the server said it wasn't gonna happen. His tenacity is famous. Now if we can calm him down a little, we will have a very good caster on the server.
Let me know I anyone else has played with him starting today. I would like to see him succeed.
DoctorWhofan
06-18-2008, 04:53 PM
I Gotta Give It To Him Though, If There Is Something In This Game That Can Be Charmed, He Can Charm It! Hound Raid Here He Comes!
Might join you for that! Let me know when, and you will have a cleric!
MrWizard
06-18-2008, 05:45 PM
The person in question, which I will call D, showed up today after a hiatus. Do I partied with him to see if his rep is still there.
Things I learned about D
He knows how to play the game, rather well, knows what spells to take, etc.
He still has a very short attention span and talks alot.
He knows the quests, and the tactics for each quest.
He is very generous, and kind.
He has been told to cut the chatter to minium and type. And to listen to the leader.
He has been told why no one wants to party with him.
He now understands why, and has said that he would try to improve himself.
He is currently unguilded. But he asked to join mine. I said he had to earn it.
He, a guildie and I did a little running in the Orchard. He has it down to a science, and got bored in a few minutes. He had complained about noone running raid with him, especially shroud stuff (he is Shroud ready, unlike me) and I explianed you need to listen to the leader. I told him to stay near the cleric at all times unless told otherwise. That seemed to help. He didin't run off the the four corners and when we did split up he regrouped with me.
In Conclusion, he IS better, but not enough to run a raid with him yet. However, I am known for my patience, many of you may not have the same conclusion as I. Therefore, for the server, will take the responsiblity to try to retrain him. He's a really nice kid, figured the game out pretty good, but needs to calm down before (at least I know) the server will take him on anything but the Reaver raid.
So you see me with D looking for members, which can be hopeless I know, and you have the time, find it in your heart to join and help him out. I am not going party with him all the time, nor will I raid with him outside REaver, but simple-well known quests are in and wwas explained that it will help him do raids if others saw his improvement.
hey, I listen (devestate)...oh....you did not mean me...lol
I was back this week playing too....hmmmmm.
Ringos
06-18-2008, 06:18 PM
He mentioned you btw. I told him that you were a very nice player and to listen to you.
Like I said before...certain people are fixtures (at least for those from Tharashk!). It's always good to have legends around! :)
Davinna
06-19-2008, 06:02 AM
Your a Saint Trissa.
Aye, what he said.
I believe people can change and deserve a second chance. If I see one of your LFMs up and I'm not busy, I'll be there.
*cupcake for Trissa*
JacknCoke
06-19-2008, 08:03 AM
D, you can be my friend. We can run stuff together.
Most people forget this is a game, or just refuse to believe it is.
caliestro
06-19-2008, 08:41 AM
if D wants to run the shroud i guess i can hop on my caster and try escorting him and teaching him where to run and how to run to those areas and cc them
~Jules921
06-19-2008, 10:15 AM
Trissa,
I'm up for helping out as well.
Jules
LawstCawz
06-19-2008, 10:21 AM
Man, all these ubers running scared. :rolleyes: I'll happily drag him along. Partied several times with no problems... granted my voice chat was off. I'll quest with anyone, even if I don't like you and have you squelched. :D
Montrose
06-19-2008, 10:29 AM
Heh, was in a reaver raid last night and the topic of a D sighting came up. He's *that* famous!
I always thought that he wasn't a bad player or a bad person, just that he needed to calm down and ease up on the mic a little. I'd group with him.
Elvejon
06-19-2008, 02:21 PM
He sent mail to me that hes back that how i knew he was back. Unless otherwise people actuall join our group D and i wont be duoing stuff anymore.
Beherit_Baphomar
06-19-2008, 02:26 PM
I dunno who D is, but he sounds like S.
Yaga_Nub
06-19-2008, 02:35 PM
I thought this post was about me for a second because I moved a character over here. :)
so who is this famous *D*?
im on kyber but am curious to know who he is
DoctorWhofan
06-19-2008, 03:10 PM
so who is this famous *D*?
im on kyber but am curious to know who he is
Not naming names on the forum. If you want I'll PM his name, or there is another thread with his name. Tharashk old timers know because he was from there. He's like 8 years old with a two second attention span. But he will give you the robe off his back if he could.
I dunno, my mothering coming into play, but I think, especially with the Tharashkians, that it is a moral responsiblity to make sure he is treated well. I didn't treat him well in the past, as for the rest of the server, and banned him. But maybe I have learned my lesson about treating everyone fairly and objectivily. Maybe I care. Maybe, I dunno, I think everyone deserves a second chance, especially a kid.
He if is willing to put forth the effort, I am willing to return that to him. Wouldn't we like the same treatment?
mistygo
06-19-2008, 03:12 PM
D is a famous charecter in the game a legend if you will. He is a kid that almost no one wanted to group with. Hopefully this thread in the game will change that. I would tell you who he is but then it would close the thread.
Ringos
06-19-2008, 03:24 PM
He if is willing to put forth the effort, I am willing to return that to him. Wouldn't we like the same treatment?
Well said.
Nobody is asking you to invite him on all your raids or anything, just cut him some slack and maybe try grouping with him. If it doesn't go well, just part ways. :)
Fishy
06-19-2008, 05:28 PM
Count me in. But not on any really long quests, where a wipe means total failure. And I don't promise not to squelch him. :)
Very good of you and if any of my characters were of proper level on Thelanis I would join in to help but all of mine here a bit to low as I only play here rarely, so many characters and so many wonderful people across several servers and so little time.
JayDubya
06-20-2008, 06:48 AM
Not naming names on the forum. If you want I'll PM his name, or there is another thread with his name. Tharashk old timers know because he was from there. He's like 8 years old with a two second attention span. But he will give you the robe off his back if he could.
I dunno, my mothering coming into play, but I think, especially with the Tharashkians, that it is a moral responsiblity to make sure he is treated well.
Still trying to get that Mother Hen forum title?
I thought he was 12, btw, maybe 13 at this point.
In any case, I'll help out as well.
JacknCoke
06-20-2008, 08:34 AM
You know whats really EXTREMMLY sad...
ADULTS TELLING A KID HE/THEY NEED TO ACT LIKE AN ADULT when playing "your" ddo game!!!!
let him be a kid, let him be loud, let him play and forlick. BECAUSE you all know you would give about anything to be his age again. Dont force him to grow up to have fun in a VIDEO GAME.
This is a game and like it or not despite the "player base age" this game i not marketed or targets to just adults here. This is not your game as much as it is his game. Now go pay some bills and take out your adult frustrations on your own kids.
Kerrn_Siff
06-20-2008, 08:54 AM
You know whats really EXTREMMLY sad...
ADULTS TELLING A KID HE/THEY NEED TO ACT LIKE AN ADULT when playing "your" ddo game!!!!
let him be a kid, let him be loud, let him play and forlick. BECAUSE you all know you would give about anything to be his age again. Dont force him to grow up to have fun in a VIDEO GAME.
This is a game and like it or not despite the "player base age" this game i not marketed or targets to just adults here. This is not your game as much as it is his game. Now go pay some bills and take out your adult frustrations on your own kids.
A kid that wants to play _with_ adults in this game still needs to conform to certain party etiquette. The real issue is usually no one takes the time to educate them on what that is exactly.
I've found most kids to be capable players if you have the patience to work with them as the OP and others in here are doing. It's good to hear you guys helping him out :)
as for "forlick"ing.. that would be his own business.
JacknCoke
06-20-2008, 08:58 AM
A kid that wants to play _with_ adults in this game still needs to conform to certain party etiquette. The real issue is usually no one takes the time to educate them on what that is exactly.
so on the box the age limit or suggestion was 18+/21+ strange we must have got different game boxes.
its actully rated "teen" so we can argue you are to old to be playing ;)
Kerrn_Siff
06-20-2008, 09:02 AM
so on the box the age limit or suggestion was 18+/21+ strange we must have got different game boxes.
its actully rated "teen" so we can argue you are to old to be playing ;)
TEEN
Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.
as for the minimum age, that's why I said kids (and many 'adults') need to conform to certain norms if they expect to play with the rest of the population.
Ringos
06-20-2008, 09:22 AM
TEEN
Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.
as for the minimum age, that's why I said kids (and many 'adults') need to conform to certain norms if they expect to play with the rest of the population.
Man, just walk away now...it's not worth it! :)
Kerrn_Siff
06-20-2008, 09:28 AM
EDIT: Misinterpreted a post, my apologies.
Have fun people.
JacknCoke
06-20-2008, 09:42 AM
TEEN
Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.
as for the minimum age, that's why I said kids (and many 'adults') need to conform to certain norms if they expect to play with the rest of the population.
I see what your saying mate. And agree to a point. But you also have to take into consideration. This is a video game. It is rated teen not adult. if it was meant to be a place to act like an adult it would be rated as such. You also have to take into consideration since the beginning of video games they have been marketed (for the most part) for younger people. They are not meant to be a place for adults to come into and be all grown up. its kind an oxymoron to demand maturity in a video game.
You cant expect a 13 year old to act all grown up. No matter how you try and "school" them. If you have kids you would know this. You can however expect civility and politeness.
In my day we did not have video games we had "out side". Kids are kids and have an energy and a mind set that cant be oppressed and in the times we live in kids are not out waisting energy playing baseball in the summer they are on video games sharing time with adults. maturity comes with age. And the way I see it video games are there territory. Adults have just kinda pushed there way in, in the last few years.
wamjratl1
06-20-2008, 09:49 AM
I have followed some of the previous discussion about D. The last thread i saw was actually really sad - it was from his buddy who was upset cuz his friend had left the game because no one would play with him. I applaud all of you who are helping this guy out. I know he and his friend are thrilled.
There are many people in this game of ALL AGES who can be annoying or irritating or just no good. Most players play this game to accomplish something and to enjoy themselves, and when another player, REGARDLESS OF AGE, impedes that accomplishment or enjoyment over and over again, folks don't group with them anymore. So to me, this isn't a matter of people telling a kid not to be a kid, it's people letting a fellow player know the proper etiquette for playing the game so he won't be on everyone's blacklist. It's actually a good lesson for D and anyone else. While we all like to be oursleves and no one likes his/her individualtiy surpressed, there are times for all of us when we must conform to an accepted norm if we are to flourish in a cooperative environment. And the great thing about DDO is that it allows for all of it - Creativity, Individualism, Cooperation, and Teamwork! It's a good place for a young person (hell it even teaches you some math!!!) Interestingly, if this were an adult who had this reputation, I wonder if folks would be so keen on helping them out and giving them another shot...
But because it is a kid, imagine how much it means to him to have a bunch of cool, older folks giving him a shot at hanging out with them. It would have meant a lot to me when I was that age...Really nice, Thelanis! Sun War Academy on Ghallanda Salutes You!
LawstCawz
06-20-2008, 10:09 AM
I see what your saying mate. And agree to a point. But you also have to take into consideration. This is a video game. It is rated teen not adult. if it was meant to be a place to act like an adult it would be rated as such. You also have to take into consideration since the beginning of video games they have been marketed (for the most part) for younger people. They are not meant to be a place for adults to come into and be all grown up. its kind an oxymoron to demand maturity in a video game.
You cant expect a 13 year old to act all grown up. No matter how you try and "school" them. If you have kids you would know this. You can however expect civility and politeness.
In my day we did not have video games we had "out side". Kids are kids and have an energy and a mind set that cant be oppressed and in the times we live in kids are not out waisting energy playing baseball in the summer they are on video games sharing time with adults. maturity comes with age. And the way I see it video games are there territory. Adults have just kinda pushed there way in, in the last few years.
What is this "outside" you speak of? Anyway, this thread meant well, but it was rather inappropriate given the known history of such forum topics. I would be more than happy to see this thread deleted rather than a bunch of adults gossiping about a teen. For shame. Cube, where are you?
Shyver
06-20-2008, 10:10 AM
In my day we did not have video games we had "out side". Kids are kids and have an energy and a mind set that cant be oppressed and in the times we live in kids are not out waisting energy playing baseball in the summer they are on video games sharing time with adults. maturity comes with age. And the way I see it video games are there territory. Adults have just kinda pushed there way in, in the last few years.
There is still that "outside" right outside the door. And it's the parents responsibility to make sure their children make it out that door, just like it's the parents responsibility to make sure their children act civil when in mixed company. If the parents aren't taking an active roll in the childs life, this isn't directed at D but children in general, then it shouldn't come as a surprise that others step up and put their 2 cents in. Not to mention maturity and age don't always go hand in hand.
As to the the video games being their territory. Well video games in their current implementation are the territory of the late 20's early 30 somethings. We were the first generation to really "grow up" with the computer and consoles being prominent in their lives. While I don't have any hard statistics to back up my imaginiary numbers here, :D I'd bet that thats also the reason that most programmers are in their 20's and 30's. Not to mention that most video games are marketed towards the older crowds with addictive personalities. The fact that parents allow their children to play some of the games out there that are rated M or even some of the T games is astounding.
But the game is rated Teen and up so that does mean 13 years old and up. However I know for a fact I knew how to act and be civil with adults when I was 13. Really I know what I expect from people as far as manners and civility goes and I expect this whether the player is 13 or the player is 60. If the player doesn't act as I think they should then I put them on the list regardless of age. My time, my money, my decision. But if you're going to play with adults you should conduct yourself accordingly.
Ringos
06-20-2008, 10:14 AM
Well said Shyver.
Well I for one still have D on my do not group list. Sure all the nice things you all say are probably true, but I don't need the robe off his back or anything. I'll just stick to being an ornery old hermit and keep to myself. But on a happy note welcome back and happy gaming.
staples
06-20-2008, 10:40 AM
well said as well Shyv...
D is an old time Tharashkian and therefore a welcome site back to the game...good and indifferent folks alike are all a part of the community....and if you enjoy the game, the more we have the better the game is.
liamfrancais
06-20-2008, 10:41 AM
Welcome back "D" whoever you are, I salute your stick to it attitude through what appears to be much grief in the past.
I find this thread humorous in a morbid way almost like it is a warning but not really. I have had chatty people in my groups and just squelch them as long as a player can do his thing and not get everyone else sent back to the tavern 8 or 80 I say let em play.
DoctorWhofan
06-20-2008, 10:48 AM
EVERYONE LISTEN!!!
This thread is NOT about gossip.
This thread IS ABOUT what I am going to with an issue that the server has dealt with, poorly. Me included in that statement. THis is ME saying what I have observed about the situation and asking for help. Agree, disagree it doesn't matter. Being vicious and uncivil towards each other AS ADULTS is like pot meet kettle.
As for the rating, last time I checked we have a thread on this very forum that has children to get together and play. Yes, it is in a controlled eviroment, which says alot about your parenting with video games. In a world where parents will buy games rated M that teach how to react to the world with violence, here we have an opperntunity to influence a kid who doesn't have that kind of supervison, apparently.
to better himself
to understand social situations.
to have fun without the expense of others
People will disagree with me that's fine. People will that it is too much work for their fun time and that's fine. People WILL REMAIN CIVIL ABOUT THE SUBJECT.
Finally, why am I doing this? When I was seven, all the girls wanted to play with is Barbies doing typical girl stuff, and I wanted to be an astronaut and was told by these girls I could not bhave my Barbies do that. THey had to do girl stuff or I could not play with them. On my way home, crying, I saw a bunch a teens that I knew sitting around a bench. THey were playing D&D. It looked fun as they were creating characters that could do anything they wanted, I asked to play. They agreed, figuring that I would get bored. I didn't, and I was all hyper and excited each sesson about the monsters and such, and my character was so very stupid, they continued to let me play until they moved.
I saw these kids getting pick on at the bus stop, and how they handled it with maturity and intelligence. I decided then that is how I was going to be, mature and proper. I was not going to let society dictate what I was, for my character sheet was blank. And now, 25 years later, I have an oppertunity to "Pass it on" what those teens did for me, and I will, to the best of my ability.
Talon_Moonshadow
06-20-2008, 11:05 AM
EVERYONE LISTEN!!!
This thread is NOT about gossip.
This thread IS ABOUT what I am going to with an issue that the server has dealt with, poorly. Me included in that statement. THis is ME saying what I have observed about the situation and asking for help. Agree, disagree it doesn't matter. Being vicious and uncivil towards each other AS ADULTS is like pot meet kettle.
As for the rating, last time I checked we have a thread on this very forum that has children to get together and play. Yes, it is in a controlled eviroment, which says alot about your parenting with video games. In a world where parents will buy games rated M that teach how to react to the world with violence, here we have an opperntunity to influence a kid who doesn't have that kind of supervison, apparently.
to better himself
to understand social situations.
to have fun without the expense of others
People will disagree with me that's fine. People will that it is too much work for their fun time and that's fine. People WILL REMAIN CIVIL ABOUT THE SUBJECT.
Finally, why am I doing this? When I was seven, all the girls wanted to play with is Barbies doing typical girl stuff, and I wanted to be an astronaut and was told by these girls I could not bhave my Barbies do that. THey had to do girl stuff or I could not play with them. On my way home, crying, I saw a bunch a teens that I knew sitting around a bench. THey were playing D&D. It looked fun as they were creating characters that could do anything they wanted, I asked to play. They agreed, figuring that I would get bored. I didn't, and I was all hyper and excited each sesson about the monsters and such, and my character was so very stupid, they continued to let me play until they moved.
I saw these kids getting pick on at the bus stop, and how they handled it with maturity and intelligence. I decided then that is how I was going to be, mature and proper. I was not going to let society dictate what I was, for my character sheet was blank. And now, 25 years later, I have an oppertunity to "Pass it on" what those teens did for me, and I will, to the best of my ability.
Wow............
I was thinking that it might be better if we drop this subject.
Those who are willing to help have already got the message.
You've done a great thing here. You have been a leader on Tharask for a long time. Many friends and people who wil llisten to you.
We all know how you feel and many of us will follow and help out.
But, threads about this have been deleted before, and those who will not help, will probably just start the gossip thing and turn a well meant thread into yet another disaster.
Anyway, I'll keep an eye out for him and try to help out.
Edit: Wasn't there a Barbie Astronaut at one time? :)
EditEdit:
http://www.amazon.com/Girls-Anything-Astronaut-Barbie-1994/dp/B000OK48N6/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games&qid=1213978194&sr=8-6
Dozen_Black_Roses
06-20-2008, 11:11 AM
definitely..hear hear!
Edit..this was in response to Shyv's post....I had a slight delay in posting and several got in between lol.
Ministry
06-20-2008, 11:19 AM
...But the game is rated Teen and up so that does mean 13 years old and up. However I know for a fact I knew how to act and be civil with adults when I was 13. Really I know what I expect from people as far as manners and civility goes and I expect this whether the player is 13 or the player is 60. If the player doesn't act as I think they should then I put them on the list regardless of age. My time, my money, my decision. But if you're going to play with adults you should conduct yourself accordingly.
/signed.
This was a point that I attempted to make some time ago, but it wasn't as elequently stated as Shyver's.
LawstCawz
06-20-2008, 12:04 PM
EVERYONE LISTEN!!!
This thread is NOT about gossip.
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And now, 25 years later, I have an oppertunity to "Pass it on" what those teens did for me, and I will, to the best of my ability.
Noone questioned your good intentions. It's some of the others wandering around here that just cannot be at peace with themselves.
Impaqt
06-20-2008, 12:16 PM
EVERYONE LISTEN!!!
This thread is NOT about gossip.
This thread IS ABOUT what I am going to with an issue that the server has dealt with, poorly. Me included in that statement.
Trissa, You Know I respect your desired to help this kid out.... But to Lump the entire server together as the root of the "Issue" is unfair. He made his bed.
Most of the server simply decided grouping with him wasnt a priority. When something is painful to me. I stop doing it. I feel that is a Reasonable solution to the issue, and a proper way to deal with the potential pain.
DoctorWhofan
06-20-2008, 12:30 PM
Trissa, You Know I respect your desired to help this kid out.... But to Lump the entire server together as the root of the "Issue" is unfair. He made his bed.
Most of the server simply decided grouping with him wasnt a priority. When something is painful to me. I stop doing it. I feel that is a Reasonable solution to the issue, and a proper way to deal with the potential pain.
agreed. However, he isn't going away. The rating system went away when his parents bought and installed the game.
He is known for is tenacity. He didn't hire a plat farmer to level his character, he did, dispite our "shunning" him. We watched in utter amazement as he rose level after level, and none of us could figure out how. But he had LFMs up everyday, despite the pain. Funny, in adults its called endurance. It's an admirble trait for a SEAL. To keep standing up when the world is against you. To keep trying. For me, that is a positive quality.
You don't have to do this, helping him. Maybe I said it wrong. I was merely letting you all know he is back, and if you have the time and I you want to, play with him. I'm asking us not to be cruel to him, and play some horrid jokes that were done to him in the past. Regardless, We may be the biggest positive influence in the game. Which is very, very sad, both as the parents standpoint, and ours.
DoctorWhofan
06-20-2008, 12:33 PM
Noone questioned your good intentions. It's some of the others wandering around here that just cannot be at peace with themselves.
Hence my yelling. I made the thread, and I will do my best to keep it on the straight and narrow. I know it is atouchy subject, hence my wording was (hopfully) chosen carefully. It would be poor form to do otherwise.
Talish
06-20-2008, 01:26 PM
I do not know this child being new to this world but I do strive to teach my children that when they make a mistake it is better to own up to it and make it right than to run away. It sounds like this person may be trying to do that after a period of being away and considering his actions. At such a young age as well if he is truly trying to correct his mistakes then he should be encouraged.
Those that wish to help should do so and watch for his sincerity. Those that don't should avoid him but not tease or torment him. He should be encouraged to face his mistakes and correct them. Especially since I know so many adults nowadays who just run away.
hydra_ex
06-20-2008, 02:13 PM
What is this "outside" you speak of? Anyway, this thread meant well, but it was rather inappropriate given the known history of such forum topics. I would be more than happy to see this thread deleted rather than a bunch of adults gossiping about a teen. For shame. Cube, where are you?
One, he is not a teen, hes 8.
Two, as D already has a bad reputation, I would like to commend this thread for trying to help out. I actually stopped using my mic with non guildies (and most guild runs too) because he gives all us teens/kids a bad reputation. He does seem to know the game well, but I play DDO for fun, not to listen to someone yell on for half an hour with a mic which should be held 3 feet away from his mouth... I can see that if someone "trains" him, I definitly will be happy to run a raid with him (given I don't need to get my earplugs fist).
Sokar6000
06-20-2008, 11:03 PM
I've played with him a few times, and he DOES learn...I'll never take him on quest with me, but for slayer/explorers &c. I'll run with him.
I laid into him a bit during a Crucible run when he thought his wizard was better suited to run the Dex room than my Dex monkey evasion ranger. I feel kind of bad down, cause I thought he was some drunk jerk, not a kid.
But, he's a better person now because of it. :P
Delacroix21
06-21-2008, 02:05 PM
I joined the Reaver raid he was in and for the most part things went well. This was my first experience with him and he was fine in the beginning but began talking more and more as things progressed.
My advice? Just tell him to simply play with his mic off, I believe if he did so he would not have the reputation he has. There are a few other very rare kid players on thelanis and my advice to them is the same. They are usually very excitable children and would certainly say much less if they were forced to type it. =)
nedpowers386
06-23-2008, 04:00 AM
Yep, he is a legend, and I am glad he is back.
I PUG exclusively, and I have seen so many new names I can't keep track of em. 90% are forgotten the next day.
But the legends live on.
Welcome back, D!
Now if we could only get that C dude under control........
:D
nedpowers386
06-23-2008, 04:07 AM
Originally Posted by JacknCoke
In my day we did not have video games we had "out side". Kids are kids and have an energy and a mind set that cant be oppressed and in the times we live in kids are not out waisting energy playing baseball in the summer they are on video games sharing time with adults. maturity comes with age. And the way I see it video games are there territory. Adults have just kinda pushed there way in, in the last few years.
Oh my.
And we are we still feeding into posts like these???
TheMerc
06-23-2008, 05:01 AM
Sounds like word of mouth gets around fast on your server.
Wish everyone that peeved me would suddenly get ostracized by the server, no more girls on the mic playing ditzy and flirty and getting every male with a mic playing stupid; no more people talking about their "omg leet double shroud khopesh ranger!!11!1" while I'm doing a tangleroot run in a PUG.
But I'm sure a good amount of people are like that on every server, so it's not gonna happen. I can dream though, can't I?
Ringos
06-23-2008, 08:00 AM
"...no more girls on the mic playing ditzy and flirty and getting every male with a mic playing stupid"
Not nearly enough of this IMO! :)
juniorpfactors
06-23-2008, 09:04 AM
agreed. However, he isn't going away. The rating system went away when his parents bought and installed the game.
He is known for is tenacity. He didn't hire a plat farmer to level his character, he did, dispite our "shunning" him. We watched in utter amazement as he rose level after level, and none of us could figure out how. But he had LFMs up everyday, despite the pain. Funny, in adults its called endurance. It's an admirble trait for a SEAL. To keep standing up when the world is against you. To keep trying. For me, that is a positive quality.
You don't have to do this, helping him. Maybe I said it wrong. I was merely letting you all know he is back, and if you have the time and I you want to, play with him. I'm asking us not to be cruel to him, and play some horrid jokes that were done to him in the past. Regardless, We may be the biggest positive influence in the game. Which is very, very sad, both as the parents standpoint, and ours.
I find it funny that this thread went more than 3 responses... play with competent players and get loot its really not that hard to a) group with a competent team b) find loot
I think I grouped with said player 1 time ever in a Reaver and he was a spike boy in the muppet dead room ...whatever who cares.... its like you have made him a martyr or a saint...
A wise man once said " I got only so many hours to game each day, fast, fast, loot the chest rest and reform, there is no time to stand around, lets start this quest, Lets go" if the said player doesnt fit..then he doesnt fit for future runs
jrp
Mistinarperadnacles
06-24-2008, 03:13 AM
I'd join just to run any quest where you have to jump over anything dangerous and film Trissa doing it.
:)
...no more girls on the mic playing ditzy and flirty and getting every male with a mic playing stupid
Aww... :( Course I might actually be able to play smarter if this happened and I was less of a sucker for voices.
Merkinsal
06-24-2008, 01:24 PM
nvm
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