World of Warcraft Refugee's

[Badsign]

Hi All!

My wife and i are refugees from a very large raiding guild on the Garona server for WOW, and we have taken up residence on this server. We have been members of the same guild for nearly 8 years. (the guild is Dragon Bane) anyway we discovered that most of the folks we started the guild with were not playing as much and that the folks that were playing the most were not upholding the beliefs we started the guild with so we decided to move on without making a bunch of noise. (We hate drama) So! we are looking for a new home! We need a guild likes to have fun and run raids in that order! we are more people oriented but like to make progress in the game as well, We dont care much for guilds that swear a lot in Chat just to prove they know big boy words and absolutely cannot stand the drama a lot of young guilds have. we are older (thirties) and want some folks to have a lot of fun with.

Do you have a home for us?
If so let us know!
Thanks for reading!!!

Badsign

[Hafeal]

Well then, leave that dreaded server :D and come to Khyber!

Actually great guilds on all the servers. I would PUG for a while and take a note of who you like and try out their guild.

[Juni]

You should check this link out Thelanis Guild List (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=116330) Hit up some of the guilds web pages. Find a few that you think you might like, then look for them in-game. PuG with a few different guilds to find the one that best fits your style.

[Clay]

You actually picked a great time to come over!

usually the experienced players in the larger more experienced raiding guilds are on capped characters running raids and end game content.

But, with the introduction of Monks... I have never seen so many long time players on lowbies at the same time! i love rolling new characters and leveling them... its part of the game i enjoy, but i seem to be an anomaly as most of my guild doesn't, so I am usually leveling by myself in PUGs. However, lately, just when I get my 3 newest lowbies to 13, 15 and 16, NOW they all decide to roll new toons...

Arghh!

I finally get my lowbies to the level they can run with the big boys... and now I have to pug again!

;)

Anyways, to make a short story long, hop in game, roll a cleric, caster, or intimidating tank, and you will be very popular indeed! Make a note of the guild tags of people you have enjoyed running with and seek them out for groups. Add them to your friends list. I am sure that you will find a good fit soon enough. If you rush into one too quickly, you may regret your first choice and spend a bunch of time guild hopping...

Welcome to the game and hope you enjoy it!

[Ringos]

Pay no heed to those folks from Kyhber! :)

You picked a great server, and a great time to join, as Clay stated prior. Rollin' up anything other than a Monk would get you grouped as quickly as you would like it seems. :)

Welcome!

[captain1z]

nice to see some new blood flowing.



BIG WELCOME!!!

I hope you enjoy your stay.......... try the ham. :)

[GeneralDiomedes]

Just one comment, I think your biggest problem will be choosing the right guild, as almost all are comprised of very fine and mature individuals.

[Badsign]

WoW!

Thanks for all the fantastic response! i feel better about this already! makin a lil Sorcerer, hopefully i'll see some of you about!

[ChildrenofBodom]

WoW!

Thanks for all the fantastic response! i feel better about this already! makin a lil Sorcerer, hopefully i'll see some of you about!

Max out charisma and max ranks in UMD. Get a nice con for hp and maybe a couple points in str just for carrying capacity. Mainly Charisma and con. UMD will let you be able to scroll cleric spells that can heal you and raise your allies. Sorcerers don't get spells that heal themselves unless they are warforged. I would go wizard if you want to go the warforged route though.

Just some hints and tips from an experienced sorc. :)

Welcome to DDO!

[MTG]

On behalf of my guild welcome to DDO.

[DoctorWhofan]

On behalf of my guild welcome to DDO.

yeah, what he said!!

[Wizzly_Bear]

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[Sue_Dark]

Welcome to the server, from the Insanity Plea.

[Merkinsal]

Hi All!

My wife and i are refugees from a very large raiding guild on the Garona server for WOW, and we have taken up residence on this server. We have been members of the same guild for nearly 8 years. (the guild is Dragon Bane) anyway we discovered that most of the folks we started the guild with were not playing as much and that the folks that were playing the most were not upholding the beliefs we started the guild with so we decided to move on without making a bunch of noise. (We hate drama) So! we are looking for a new home! We need a guild likes to have fun and run raids in that order! we are more people oriented but like to make progress in the game as well, We dont care much for guilds that swear a lot in Chat just to prove they know big boy words and absolutely cannot stand the drama a lot of young guilds have. we are older (thirties) and want some folks to have a lot of fun with.

Do you have a home for us?
If so let us know!
Thanks for reading!!!

Badsign

I had to smile when I read your post. Knowing where you came from, but here in DDO you pretty much described everybody. Fun, people oriented, no swearing, mature folk pretty much describes everyone in the game. I guess you can pretty much get a feel for the difference just by reading the forums. Welcome to DDO. You are are going to luv it.

[MrWizard]

Hi and welcome.

Get ready for some fun times, but be patient as you learn a new system.
Where wow is a lot of solo, this is the complete opposite.

And the movement and combat is a lot different.
And building your toon is different.

You will miss some of the openness, but rarely ever go on a 'kill 5 beavers' quest!

Just be patient and remember once you get past 8th or 9th level you will be running with more experienced players where as the lower levels can be strange due to trial accounts and such.

and just have fun.

[DoctorWhofan]

I hated the Crossroads for the reasons you stated.

Such language isn't tolarated, however, an occasional naughty word might creep accross the chat, usually do to something unexpected.

Anyhoo, the DDO players are by far the most mature MMO players out there. My Guild is run by my Hubby and I and there is absoultely no drama in it. Why? We are too small to be drama queens. But we tend to get along with all the big guilds and have fun with them.

Regardless on what guild you choose, you came to the right server and the right game!! Again, Welcome Aboard!

[Ministry]

Welcome to Thelanis, the best server in DDO.

As per the from page 1 of the DDO forums you can see that Thelanis raids the most and the best, as per winning the server competition for unlocking the new raid and for beating the raids first.

Thelanis is made up of Xoriat, Therask and of course Thelanis, the first 2 being very strong servers that were not as high in population but were strong in quality and loved to raid.

If you like to raid and are top quality gamers, you will very much enjoy this server when you get to the higher levels.

Be wary of the lower levels as we have a lot of players coming from no where, other games and lately other servers to mix in with us, thus making the quality of play at the lower levels a fair bit less than the higher levels.

Would love to run with you, but its challenging because our guild usually zergs most of the levels and gets from 1 - 10 in a few days or so on average and then from there to 16 in another week or 2.

GL and have fun and make sure you continue to come out here and check out the forums and post questions.

[moorewr]

Hey! says hey, welcome to Thelanis. :)

[Badsign]

Awesome!

Thank you all for the fabulous responses again. if this is any indication of the folks that play here i am sure we will love it here!
I can assure you that none of you would get this many positive responses on any WoW forum, sad as that is to say. On a better note, to Millicent from "ChildrenofBodom" i appreciate any advice i can get, but what is UMD?

Thanks in advance!!
Luvs to all of you!

Badsign

[Memnir]

Welcome to the game, and to the best server in it. :)

I have to say that the people in DDO are, by in large, the best I've ever met in an online environment. All of my characters are in my siggy below. If you ever have any questions or need anything, please don't hesitate to add them to your Friends List and send me a tell. If I can help, I'd be more than happy to.

Again, welcome to DDO. I really hope you enjoy it as much as we do.

[Brother_Tuck]

Welcome to the game and to the best server by far....

As to answer your question about UMD its Use Magic Device and you will want to max it out to use any item/weapon/wearable in the game no matter if its race or alignment restricted. It one of your skills and its based on a characters Charisma modifier. Alot of us "old timers" can help so newer players do not make the same mistakes alot of us made when we rolled up our first characters who we later found out were GIMPED.

If you need any help just give a shout to just about anyone you see who responded to this post and all of us are always willing to impart some knowledge to help make your gaming experience and transition smoother. Some of us even offer plat and items as well to help newer players along.

Happy gaming..

[Uamhas]

Use Magic Device= charisma-based skill. UMD allows you to equip gear that has some kind of restriction on it that you don't qualify for (ie: you are an elf with a race required warforged strength ring) or to cast scrolls/use wands when you do not have the requisite class (ie: raise dead scroll via sorceror). The higher your UMD the more likely you'll be able to find stuff you can use sooner, as race restricted gear is usually of a lower minimum level than the comparable gear w/o restrictions.

Awesome!

~snip~ i appreciate any advice i can get, but what is UMD?

Thanks in advance!!
Luvs to all of you!

Badsign

Also... um... I have a foul mouth and a dirty mind... hm, maybe that's why I was asked to leave that guild? Who can say *insert eyeroll here*. However, I can (and have) honored requests to "tone it down", so if you run with me and I blister your ears, please don't hesitate to let me know that it bothers you.

[Ringos]

Also... um... I have a foul mouth and a dirty mind... hm, maybe that's why I was asked to leave that guild? Who can say *insert eyeroll here*.


Oh really...I'll talk to Vic and see if I can get you in GSI. :)

[Badsign]

Oookay i have only been on here a few days and have now realized how little i know, i started on the trial and now have DL'd a regular account and am gettin serious, i have played several toons to level 2.5 approx and have realized i would like some advice. What is the general consensus of what would be a good first character to start out with? My three lvl 70 characters in WoW were a heal spec Druid a Rogue and a Mage so i can play heals DPS or support. Would it be best to start with a character i can use to farm with at higher levels and then make a specialized character? or just ramp right on up with the sorcerer i intended? i kind of like the cleric too, but should i spec a level of fighter to start or what? was thinking of playing a level of bard and Then starting some sorc levels too but will that gimp my high end sorc? I am sure you experienced people know what i am asking and i would appreciate any advice!! also is there somewhere else i should be posting these questions? i really love talking to the people i hope to play with more than just searching general opinion.

Thanks and Luvs in advance!!

Badsign

[Memnir]

If you enjoy playing a cleric, then you've already gotten a head start on one of the best ways to learn the game. Clerics are always in demand, at all levels. Plus, they can be a very solo-able class. A cleric can learn all the quests in the game very easily for those two reasons.

I'd say run with a cleric at least until you gain your 1750 Favor to make 32 point builds. By that point you will also have a greater feeling for the other classes in the game, having seen them in action & know better what class(es) would be interesting for you to try next.

Beyond that, I'd advise you look at the Race and Class sub-forums on this site. Both are great places to find answers or to ask questions you may have regarding specifics.

[sigtrent]

Welcome, hope you find the game to be fun!

There are a ton of good guilds on Thelanis and I think most of them are pretty low on the drama quotient due to mature players and a lot of fun loving folks.

Umber Hulks is the guild I'm in, it is extreemly low drama. On the other hand we hardly do any organized raiding and most of our guild events are light RP or general questing nights. The big plus is that our members are super friendly and easy going, the minus is we are somewhat a sleepy guild. You can check out our nice but somewhat quiet website via my signature, or just contact any Umber Hulk you find in the "who list" in game. We generaly look for the qualities: Nice, Friendly, Generous, Relaxed, and Likes DDO.

[Uamhas]

You start out with several character slots. Roll a cleric... and.... Considering your experience, a mage. Sounds to me like you have the twitch factor needed to manage the different hotbars, and I believe the BEST way to learn (in this case) is by doing. Don't multiclass until you get a better "feel" for the class, and have perhaps rolled and run the other class you're planning to splash it with- it's just that easy to totally screw up what you've planned for your character. Ask for advice of people you see making successful characters that have what you want. It's easy to find opinions in any group you join, (opinions being like pootie holes: everyone has one) so be choosy. Write stuff down. There is also a character planner program that I can never ever seem to find but that SOMEone on here will probably be able to provide a link that you can download it from. :p That takes alot of the guesswork out of it, and avoids dumping time in a toon you may HATE at lvl 7.
I've rolled and played 2 clerics & 2 wizards to level cap, 2 mid-level clerics, and 2 sorcs each to lvl 13. My observations: wizard is more versatile and sorc is better for specialization.
Pros and Cons.
Wiz gets to choose more spells per level and can change them at will in a tavern or after resting at a shrine so long as the spell is in the spellbook (hint: keep the scrolls you find so you can inscribe the ones you don't have, buy the ones you don't have if you can afford it).
Sorc must pay to change a single spell at a time and the wait between changing spells is 3 days.
Wiz is granted metamagics as class feats (I forget at which levels)
Sorc must spend a feat for each metamagic effect.
Wiz will likely have many many more skill points to spend due to being intelligence based for spellcasting.
Sorc is more likely to have better UMD due to being charisma based for spellcasting.
Wiz has slower casting times when unenhanced by metamagics.
Sorc gets up to double extra spell points for power/wizardry/magi items.
Suggestions
-Start with wizard, get a feel for the caster as a class, then roll a sorc after you've got at leave 5 lvls on your wizzie. If you DO roll a sorc- plan it out ahead of time.
-Wizard- max out Int
-Sorceror- max out Cha
-Boost Con, maybe use Str as a dump so you won't be overburdened so easily.
-Find yourself a warforged to keep as a convenient body shield at lower levels, and keep repair wands handy. ;)

I believe that both classes are fun as h.e. double hockeysticks, and that they are SO not just mirror images of each other. Aside from the fact that they both cast spells, the two classes have very distinct advantages to each of them.

Enough out of me for now. Holler atcha later.
-Uma

[DoctorWhofan]

You start out with several character slots. Roll a cleric... and.... Considering your experience, a mage. Sounds to me like you have the twitch factor needed to manage the different hotbars, and I believe the BEST way to learn (in this case) is by doing. Don't multiclass until you get a better "feel" for the class, and have perhaps rolled and run the other class you're planning to splash it with- it's just that easy to totally screw up what you've planned for your character. Ask for advice of people you see making successful characters that have what you want. It's easy to find opinions in any group you join, (opinions being like pootie holes: everyone has one) so be choosy. Write stuff down. There is also a character planner program that I can never ever seem to find but that SOMEone on here will probably be able to provide a link that you can download it from. :p That takes alot of the guesswork out of it, and avoids dumping time in a toon you may HATE at lvl 7.
I've rolled and played 2 clerics & 2 wizards to level cap, 2 mid-level clerics, and 2 sorcs each to lvl 13. My observations: wizard is more versatile and sorc is better for specialization.
Pros and Cons.
Wiz gets to choose more spells per level and can change them at will in a tavern or after resting at a shrine so long as the spell is in the spellbook (hint: keep the scrolls you find so you can inscribe the ones you don't have, buy the ones you don't have if you can afford it).
Sorc must pay to change a single spell at a time and the wait between changing spells is 3 days.
Wiz is granted metamagics as class feats (I forget at which levels)
Sorc must spend a feat for each metamagic effect.
Wiz will likely have many many more skill points to spend due to being intelligence based for spellcasting.
Sorc is more likely to have better UMD due to being charisma based for spellcasting.
Wiz has slower casting times when unenhanced by metamagics.
Sorc gets up to double extra spell points for power/wizardry/magi items.
Suggestions
-Start with wizard, get a feel for the caster as a class, then roll a sorc after you've got at leave 5 lvls on your wizzie. If you DO roll a sorc- plan it out ahead of time.
-Wizard- max out Int
-Sorceror- max out Cha
-Boost Con, maybe use Str as a dump so you won't be overburdened so easily.
-Find yourself a warforged to keep as a convenient body shield at lower levels, and keep repair wands handy. ;)

I believe that both classes are fun as h.e. double hockeysticks, and that they are SO not just mirror images of each other. Aside from the fact that they both cast spells, the two classes have very distinct advantages to each of them.

Enough out of me for now. Holler atcha later.
-Uma

What he said.

As I am famous (or is that infamous?) for playing clerics, this is my advice for you on that class. Clerics can be the most expensive, but the most requested class in the game. That means you will level fast, if you are good. In the later levels, some really nice offensive spells are lined up. Butthey are wanted for their heals and raise dead abilities.

Recommend a maxed out WISdom, a decent (say 14) CHArisma-clerics have some nice enhancements dealing with CHA and turn undead mora about that later, some STRength and CONstution, but only need a 9 DEXerity (there is a +3 DEX item in Tangleroot quest (level4-6) that will cover your DEX for full plate) and INTelligence isn't needed.

Turn Undead, unless you focus on it, doesn't really work, especuially after the level 7 range. Most clerics use their Turn Undeads for Divine Vitality, Divine Healing, etc. You can find these and more on the enhancement page. Saying that DON'T getthe feat improve turning. But the feat extra turning is ok.

Speaking of feats, if you play a caster, mental toughness feats are almost needed.

Clerics do not have arcane spell failure due to the fact they are divine casters. SO wear that armour and shield!

Don't splash your character until you get a feel for the class.

Playing a cleric as your first character allows you sit in the back, watch the tactics and learn the quest easier. Many of the good clerics on the server are the best group leaders.

There is a list of my alts below, so if you see them online, give a shout! I'll help you any way I can.

[Ringos]

He's a She! :)

[DoctorWhofan]

He's a She! :)

Go play the game, Ringos, or better yet, watch those videos! :p

[reziel_deadshot]

Hi All!

My wife and i are refugees from a very large raiding guild on the Garona server for WOW, and we have taken up residence on this server. We have been members of the same guild for nearly 8 years. (the guild is Dragon Bane) anyway we discovered that most of the folks we started the guild with were not playing as much and that the folks that were playing the most were not upholding the beliefs we started the guild with so we decided to move on without making a bunch of noise. (We hate drama) So! we are looking for a new home! We need a guild likes to have fun and run raids in that order! we are more people oriented but like to make progress in the game as well, We dont care much for guilds that swear a lot in Chat just to prove they know big boy words and absolutely cannot stand the drama a lot of young guilds have. we are older (thirties) and want some folks to have a lot of fun


now swearing? meaning actual curse words? now u mean just swearing at random or not at all? now my guild very efficient, have yet to fail a raid in a year (beat shroud and new raids first time around)

but we do have kinda dirty or sick sense of humors but most of us are 30's+ a lot are mid 40's and have kids, but we are on ghallanda. feel free to look up players in souls of the night on ghallanda,

my characters: hasheam, xenoquin, xenaquin, xenioquin, zenaquin, xenooquin, xenaqin, xenotech, zenoquin, reziel, reziela, mrzergy, mrszergy

[Badsign]

Thanks tons for some really fantastic posts

Have actually rolled a cleric named Omenborn, do i need to reroll him? i only went to 16 wis bc it looked like i could make 20 wis pretty easy. start stats were 14 str and con 16 wis and 10 for the rest. i didnt want any negatives ;-P took toughness and the extra spellpoint feats at level 1 and spent my first enh point on energy of the zealot. he has 44hp and 224 sp at level 2.
He seems to actually work better than the level1 fighter / level 1 cleric hybrid i made on the starter account. but if i need to reroll him with diff stats now would be a great time to know! ;-P. I have looked at the cleric boards but they seem to be amazingly short of suggestions on how to build a cleric and how to play one in a group. do we have to buff the party? 224sp seems to go in a pretty short time if i had to buff people and heal them too, also most of the groups i have seen appear to be like one high level guy dragging 3 - 4 lowbies thru a big dungeon. kinda hard to learn anything there.

Am i on the right track? i know this thread is gettin long but i am reveling in the help!!
Thanks and many luvs
Badsign

[Ringos]

Looks fine to me! 16 base Wis will work just fine, and you have a bit of Str too if you want to melee. As far as buffing goes, people do it differently, but I usually ask if anyone needs any buffs from me when we start. If I know they need a 'cleric buff', Freedom of Movement, Deathward etc, I make sure I throw that, usually without asking. Most in-tune players on a Pali or Ranger will help with elemental resists etc. when they can. I try to save my Sp for healin', crowd control and killin'! :)

Have fun!

[Ringos]

Go play the game, Ringos, or better yet, watch those videos! :p

Sorry, floods in my area have my internet spotty. Don't want to DC in a group quest or have a Doctor Who video end mid-stream! ;)

[Badsign]

Thanks Ringos! That actually makes me feel much better.

To clarify the swearing thing some folks seem confused about, i am an ex sailor, so i am sure i have forgotten more foul language than most of you have ever learned, i don't get offended by swearing. i just don't like folks who swear constantly for no apparent reason in regular guild chat where anyones child walking by can see etc... if somethin happens an you haveta let a lil verbal steam off i dont stress, if you whack out on me an start constantly swearin a blue streak, especially directed at someone THEN i get a lil bent. I also have a temper that can strip paint off your car thru your internet connection, so it gets pretty funny sometimes.
Anyway i haven't met anyone i consider offensive in this whole game yet, i am constantly amazed at the kindness and willingness to help everybody has shown, after some of the things you see playing "WoW" it has been a real eye opener what you get when you don't have two hundred 14 - 16 year old wanabee gangbangers logged on trying to pretend they are twentyfive and Uber Leet megagamers.

I have seen nothin but Luv an respect so far, so thats what everyone will get outta me.

Badsign

[JayDubya]

Those are fine stats to start with, IMO.

in terms of play style, there are several. How much mana you spend on buffing is tricky - there are some quests where buffing is critical to success, and others where it doesn't matter much.

However, one thing that is almost always helpful is good crowd control. At first & second level, you have Command, which can be used to knock down enemy casters (generally the most dangerous mobs in a group). Bless is a good buff to give out here. Shield of Faith is nice as well, but expensive - maybe only use this on the melee types with shields.

At third & 4th, you get Soundburst, which is another good CC spell. You also get Aid, which is a nice buff, but can be expensive. You also get a set of stat buffs - bulls strength and bear's endurance, and resist energy. Generally, I will cast resists in preference to Bulls' Strength, but that can be somewhat debateable. Hold Person is a great CC spell, but you have to know what DDO considers to be a "person", which, generally is: humans/elves/dwarves/halflings/kobolds/hobgoblins/orcs/

At 5th and 6th level, you get 3rd level spells, most of which are defensive. Mass Aid and Magic Circle against evil are nice party-wide buffs.

at 7th and 8th, you get 4th level spells. Holy Smite is ok CC. Recitation is a fabulous buff. Freedom of Movement and Deathward are fabulous buffs as well, if you use them at the right times.

At 9th and 10th, you get 5th level spells. Greater Command is an awesome CC spell, I use it all the time. Raise Dead is obviously tremendously valuable. Lastly, Slay Living is useful on enemy casters, if they get close to you.

11th and 12th, you get 6th level spells. Cometfall is great CC. Blade Barrier is decent damage, but you have to use it right. Heal is an excellent spell for keeping the tanks up. Banishment is a great "wipe out a bunch of enemies" as long as those enemies are elementals, outsiders (mephits, hell hounds, demons, devils, etc) or "fiendish X" type monsters.

13th and 14th, you get destruction, which is a great spell to use to instantly kill enemy casters at range. The symbols can be good debuffs here, but they take practice.

As a cleric, you can rejigger your spells in any tavern or at any shrine, which is nice for flexibility. In other words, feel free to experiment with your spell selections.


In terms of overall play style, I generally do the following:

1. Mass Buffs at the beginning of the adventure. Usually extended, assuming the quest is long enough to justify that.
2. If there are some specific resistances or buffs needed for the quest, I'll give those out. If I'm balancing out mana, I'll focus on buffing the tanks first, especially at the lower levels, and I may forego buffing the others.
3. When we fight, I use soundburst/greater command/cometfall to knock the monsters out. That way I don't have to worry about healing quite so much.
4. At lower levels, I get a lot of practice using F1-F6 to target fellow players, and hit them as necessary with healing spells to keep them up. I map Control C and Control X to my most common healing spells, so I don't have to hunt for the icon on my screen.
5. As you get mass cure spells, I target those on the melee types, so I can heal all of them at once in the middle of the fight.
6. If I have the money, I'll buy raise dead scrolls, so I don't have to use mana unless I want to. Scrolls are very nice for spells where you aren't attacking - curing and Heal and Raise dead and (to some degree) buffs.
7. I do spend a fair amount of money on Cure Serious Wound wands (at 7th level) and Heal scrolls (at 9th level), so I can keep a party going when I'm out of mana. Again, the good use of Crowd Control will reduce the need for those expenditures, but it's always nice to have them handy.


Hope this helps. PM me if you have any questions. These are just my techniques, others have different styles which are just as good, if not better than mine.

[Badsign]

Thank you Jaydubya!
I have actually printed that post out!

Anyone else? i love all the advice i can get! this is your chance to imprint on a nooblet the CORRECT way to play a cleric!
I am a wisdom soakin sponge! lay it on me!!

Lol! Thanks

Badsign

[Ringos]

Nice post by JayDub above...I'm way too lazy to go into detail via my 11 WPM on the keyboard.

If you ever want to just jump in some quests and mess around with spells, get feedback etc., feel free to look me up. I've got a new lvl 2 Cleric (Silverwaffle) and other alts from 6 to 16. I'm usually on Lillis these days, but send any of my alts a Tell if you see one online and let me know who you are if you want to run something.

As a side, this server isn't ALL peaches and cream...so don't get discouraged if you run into a few folks that aren't the best. Overall this server is like a family, even though there may be a bit of fightin' amongst the family members, we tend to circle the wagons if someone else threatens (see the race to unlock the new content). The majority of the people here are top-notch and will lend a hand if they can. Use your Friends list and keep a few notes on those you enjoy running with. It will serve you well on many days when you need a hand or you want to get in a group. Your name is big here, as people talk and know of each other's reputation. It can open many doors if you are a good person to have around.

Edit: Just saw the post above. You will probably get conflicting advice on what it takes to be a great Cleric. Those that heal only, those that heal and buff, those that kill, etc. Starting off, the best bet is to focus on healing and keeping folks alive. While doing this, experiment with Command, Hold Person etc. to get the feel for the right time to use those spells. You'll figure out what type of Cleric you want to be. For the most part, if you keep people alive, you are going to be considered a good! I prefer a combo of healing, melee, crowd control and insta-kill in parties. I tailor my style to the group.


Take care!

[MrWizard]

Oookay i have only been on here a few days and have now realized how little i know, i started on the trial and now have DL'd a regular account and am gettin serious, i have played several toons to level 2.5 approx and have realized i would like some advice. What is the general consensus of what would be a good first character to start out with? My three lvl 70 characters in WoW were a heal spec Druid a Rogue and a Mage so i can play heals DPS or support. Would it be best to start with a character i can use to farm with at higher levels and then make a specialized character? or just ramp right on up with the sorcerer i intended? i kind of like the cleric too, but should i spec a level of fighter to start or what? was thinking of playing a level of bard and Then starting some sorc levels too but will that gimp my high end sorc? I am sure you experienced people know what i am asking and i would appreciate any advice!! also is there somewhere else i should be posting these questions? i really love talking to the people i hope to play with more than just searching general opinion.

Thanks and Luvs in advance!!

Badsign

IN any new game there is so much to learn. In my opinion, the first toon you should play is a straight fighter. It is hard to gimp a straight fighter so it will last you (I still have my first fighter from start).
This allows you to learn the mechanics of leveling without nerfing your toon. Teaches you how the UI works in this particular game. And most importantly, allows you to see how the dynamics of party play, caster spells, and cleric usage in detail before building your own.
Seeing how spells operate and which ones you can use to best build your toon is very helpful and leads to a better experience.
I think everyone wants to build a fighting mage when they start. It is not a great build for a new toon as DDO does not quite make that a good build until you are really experienced.

If you want to play and learn, start one of each, a cleric, a fighter, and a wizard (not a sorc). THis way you can hop around at the same level and be a different person/toon with the same group if need be.

You will find many are happy to help. Just let them know when you join a group that you are new, but experienced.

[Uamhas]

No need for that Ringos. In one day I lost my best friend that I met in DDO (long story) and the first guild I had ever joined (not such a long story but unsuitable for public consumption), and I just want to leave the girls that got unguilded as a result where they are- unaffiliated. Thank you, though, sincerely... it makes me feel warm inside that you would make such an offer to me.
Oh really...I'll talk to Vic and see if I can get you in GSI. :)

[Lunewann]

One thing to say really..... WELCOME to best server in DDO

[JayDubya]

No need for that Ringos. In one day I lost my best friend that I met in DDO (long story) and the first guild I had ever joined (not such a long story but unsuitable for public consumption), and I just want to leave the girls that got unguilded as a result where they are- unaffiliated. Thank you, though, sincerely... it makes me feel warm inside that you would make such an offer to me.

The whole situation PO's me, frankly. Especially with what's happened since.

[moorewr]

No need for that Ringos. In one day I lost my best friend that I met in DDO (long story) and the first guild I had ever joined (not such a long story but unsuitable for public consumption), and I just want to leave the girls that got unguilded as a result where they are- unaffiliated. Thank you, though, sincerely... it makes me feel warm inside that you would make such an offer to me.

I was pretty upset by the unguilding thing. Not cool.

(PS: I still owe Uamhas way too many dragon scales. If you see me on, ask me why I'm not running the Tor. Especially if you're headed there.)

[Galvis]

Welcome to the Server. You sound like good people from what I gather in this thread. If I could I would like to offer a couple points of advice.

One of the traps that clerics can fall into, especially new ones, is they complain about healing a Warforged character. I'm sure you have noticed that WF characters are resistant to heals, this does not mean that you CAN'T heal them, just that they only benefit about half of what a "Fleshy" type would. There are enhancements that they can take to reduce the healing penalty they receive in later lvls, but try and be patient with them early on.

secondly, you will notice in your adventure comdendium that there are different factions of favor you can earn at completion of quests. most people try to get the "Coinlord" favor to at least 75 as quick as they can. This will give you a 4th backpack space to carry loot. 150 favor will require portable hole and 10,000pp, but it gets you a 5th backpack space.

Third, pick up the collectables. As a new clr the Khyber pamphlets can be very usefull as they turn into heal wands when you turn them in. Others with give you potions, armor, and weapons.. though these are rarely as usefull.

Again... Welcome and I look forward to running with you.

[Ministry]

I'm going to give you advice from 3 perspectives.

1 - A person who has played since close to day 1.
2 - A person with 2 Capped Clerics and many other capped toons.
3 - A person that cannot and will not tolerate ignorant and / or stOOpid players.

Your cleric build sounds fine... IMO, there are no real bad cleric builds.

If I were going to build a cleric now, I think my stats would be similar to yours and I would focus on raising my wisdom from then on with each ability point increase at levels 4, 8, 12 and 16.

I have a Warforged Cleric and an Elf Cleric and if I felt like putting myself through pug hell again, I know that I would make a halfling cleric because of the enhancement path of healing that they can go down.

Each race has different enhancement paths and some correspond better with certain classes.

Also, Feats are simple for a cleric, my advice is Extend, Quicken and Empower Healing in that order. After that, it depends on what build you want... Spell penetration if you are going to be trying to insta-kill things, Maximize and Empower if you want your DOT spells like Blade Barrier to kill *****, etc...

Now for the most important thing... Clerics cost a ***** load of cash to level, because everyone thinks it's up to you to keep them alive with Cure Wands... "BS" to that. You have mana and if you want to use a wand every once in a while, that's okay, but people should play smart enough to minimize how much damage they take and should be smart enough to back up from the fight when over there heads and SHOULD!!!!! SHOULD!!!! carry heal pots to take the strain off you.

In most groups, you will find that the Cleric can control the party with expectations and commands as they are the one that keeps everyone alive. If you don't want to zerg and use wands, etc... then tell people to smarten up or else. You can drop group and find a smarter one.

The smarter / better players will respect the cleric and their resources and the elite and / or nicest players will offer the clerics healing wants, mana potions and / or cash to help them out.

When I'm on my melee and I run with a pug cleric, I will either just give them stuff or will tell them to keep tabs on how many resources they use and I will pay them back at the end of completion, no matter what they need to spend.

Many of the top players on the server have responded to you already, so look any of them up in game, especially people like Trissa, Ringos and Memnir (on his toons), as they are known for their tolerance of new players and desire to help and guide them. Me, I'm too **** busy in game... this is all ya get.

GL bro.

[Badsign]

Lol! thanks ministry,
I'll take what i can get an respect any response at all, its not like anyone owes me a reply bc i splatted my 2 cents up here.
If people expect me to spend money in groups they are gonna be disappointed bc i have none and am reluctant to accept handouts of cash bc i dont know if that would nerf the skills i need to have by bypassing knowledge with gear. I have already had a couple people offer to outfit my cleric with a complete set of gear i would have zero hope of getting myself all for free, and while this is unbelievably generous i am still a little leary of it.
what do you guys think? can i nerf myself by accepting handouts?
anyway one fellow offered me three toons worth of endgame gear and 7000000.00 plat if i would just switch to his server and claim it bc he was leaving. i almost fell outta my chair, but as you can see i am still here. I feel like i owe you guys at least a good attempt bc of the generous amount of advice and time you folks have provided so far ;-P
Brothertuck is the only fellow i have seen in game so far but i hope to say hello to each of you in person at some point. Again thanks Sooo much for the fantastic responses

Badsign

[reefhut]

Pay no heed to those folks from Kyhber! :)

You picked a great server, and a great time to join, as Clay stated prior. Rollin' up anything other than a Monk would get you grouped as quickly as you would like it seems. :)

Welcome!

yeah he's right... i think WoW refugees are better welcomed there:D:D:D

no hard feelings, jokes are all i have lol

[Ministry]

I wouldn't leave Thelanis (the most winningest - is that a word - server in the game).

It would be hard to turn down all that plat and gear, but you will make that and more here in no time, especially if you keep a Cleric in your stable.

No, you won't be "gimping" your toon or yourself by accepting plat and gear here.

Most people love to "bribe" clerics to get them to be friends, so they can count on them for questing.

I love having clerics in my back pocket, you know, for those quests I can't or don't feel like soloing or short-manning.

;)

Stick on Thelanis for a bit and you will see, but remember what I said in an earlier post... give it time... the best players are at the top levels, but every once in a while you will find some darn good ones on the lower levels, especially if it is some of our elite on new lowbies...

:)

[Badsign]

WooHoo! had my first couple groups today,

First one went into the kobold brothers, (if you guys remember its a level 2 quest in the nooblet area) with a halfling ranger, we kicked butt. noone died an we cleared it. He seemed surprised by this, so hopefully i did ok.
Second one i was with a Drow Sorc, level4 and another cleric level4 they basically ran me around cerulean hills for a couple hours, was pretty fun although we died several times, i panicked a couple times an let someone die while i swished my mace in the air in the general direction of the mobs, Overall they seemed very pleased though.
First question is, the other cleric later in the night was wearing a caster robe, is he crazy or is there something i'm missing? i was wearing half plate. secondly i seemed to need to melee a lot, several times i was the last one standing and had to finish off the last couple mobs and heal the other guys. apparently if i heal you quickly enough when you drop you can come back without needing to rez?? is this a lag thing? or am i missing something again?
I still feel totally lost in space here but i got the feeling i was doin pretty ok, havin a great time, The toons name is Omenborn, send me a tell and say hi if you are on! i usually get to play in the evenings after 7pm est or so until i fall outta my chair. i have spoken to Trissa and Brothertuck so far and they are great to actually talk to as well as post here! Wife is getting jealous tho! she wants to play and doesn't have time but she'll probably be on sometime this weekend.

Again thanks Tons everybody! Great advice, Lotsa luvs!!

Badsign

[Ringos]

yeah he's right... i think WoW refugees are better welcomed there:D:D:D

no hard feelings, jokes are all i have lol

No worries! :) Actually, Khyber is my second home...at least I've unlocked Drow there!Since there aren't enough slots for playing around, I run over there in my 'free time'.

[Ringos]

WooHoo! had my first couple groups today,

First one went into the kobold brothers, (if you guys remember its a level 2 quest in the nooblet area) with a halfling ranger, we kicked butt. noone died an we cleared it. He seemed surprised by this, so hopefully i did ok.
Second one i was with a Drow Sorc, level4 and another cleric level4 they basically ran me around cerulean hills for a couple hours, was pretty fun although we died several times, i panicked a couple times an let someone die while i swished my mace in the air in the general direction of the mobs, Overall they seemed very pleased though.
First question is, the other cleric later in the night was wearing a caster robe, is he crazy or is there something i'm missing? i was wearing half plate. secondly i seemed to need to melee a lot, several times i was the last one standing and had to finish off the last couple mobs and heal the other guys. apparently if i heal you quickly enough when you drop you can come back without needing to rez?? is this a lag thing? or am i missing something again?
I still feel totally lost in space here but i got the feeling i was doin pretty ok, havin a great time, The toons name is Omenborn, send me a tell and say hi if you are on! i usually get to play in the evenings after 7pm est or so until i fall outta my chair. i have spoken to Trissa and Brothertuck so far and they are great to actually talk to as well as post here! Wife is getting jealous tho! she wants to play and doesn't have time but she'll probably be on sometime this weekend.

Again thanks Tons everybody! Great advice, Lotsa luvs!!

Badsign

Cool! Sounds like you're having some fun.

A player can be incapacitated...or near death. They will be laying on the ground...negative HP anywhere down to -9 HP. When you hit -10, you die. If someone yells 'incap', it means if you throw a cure spell on them (that brings them abouve 0 HP) they will get up.

Some Clerics wear robes...a sign they are pretty good players or noobs! :) I throw on robes at times with Deathblock, Fearsome or a few other reasons. At end-game, My AC is almost worthless it seems, but up through lvl 10 content I rarely got hit wearing a heavy shield and mithril fullplate. Stick with fullplate and a heavy shield IMO.

Since you find yourself as that last one standing at times, it's good you have a bit of strength to help damage the bad guys. Divine Favor and later Divine Power are great when you have to melee. Bulls Strength is nice early as well.

As far as cash goes, I would advise to accept gifts that are offered within reason. Having someone hand you 200k plat might ruin things a bit, but accepting some decent armor, weapons or wands will just help you keep up a bit. Kinda like real life I guess...if I was given 20k dollars, I'd be the same person. Give me 20 million and I'm hangin' out with Gary Coleman and about 30 ladies on a yacht somewhere. :)

[zoltan00]

Hey maybe this guild from wow will be a great advertisement for DDO hehe anyway welcome to DDO I hope you guys stay here forever LOL thelanis is a great server not as good as Ghallanda but there pretty good enjoy ur stay this is a great MMO with great potential have fun

[DoctorWhofan]

Many of the top players on the server have responded to you already, so look any of them up in game, especially people like TRISSA, Ringos and Memnir (on his toons), as they are known for their tolerance of new players and desire to help and guide them. Me, I'm too **** busy in game... this is all ya get.

GL bro.

You ARE soooo sweet!!! I are you sure you are from Legion? :p;):D

[Ministry]

You ARE soooo sweet!!! I are you sure you are from Legion? :p;):D

Aww... cmon... you know me my dear.

If you are good to me and or my friends in game, I will treat you like gold.

And conversely as a few have learned over time... if you are not good to me or my friends, well... what would be the opposite of being treated like gold???

;)

Remember, I am a bit knowledgable about the game and pretty much know most, if not all the people that are worth knowing in game, and I think everyone needs to chat with people like you and Ringos, Memnir and even someone from Legion like Satya who are all great at knowing the game and the politics so very well.

As always, I don't say things to be nice or not nice or to score points or gain the bad points from Turbine, I just call em as I see them and hope that someone would benefit from them.

Speaking of that... Hey Turbine folks, I've been mostly good lately, can someone please fix my loot tables... I'm so tired of always getting such horrible loot and having to take Eriik's and Scars handmedowns (even if they are finessable vorpals... haha).

:)

[RazorrX]

No need for that Ringos. In one day I lost my best friend that I met in DDO (long story) and the first guild I had ever joined (not such a long story but unsuitable for public consumption), and I just want to leave the girls that got unguilded as a result where they are- unaffiliated. Thank you, though, sincerely... it makes me feel warm inside that you would make such an offer to me.

o.O

Well that blows! I am so sorry to hear that. :(

They go down on my people who suck list.

It was fun learning Ghosts of Perdition with ya, been a while since we ran anything together.

(BTW, 3 of the other people in that group wanted me to thank you for your help).

Been trying to get the Baby Monk to level up and see what he can do, but try to log Xman in periodically to get some loot. :) Will give you a shout if you are not grouped when I log in (although with you that status (ungrouped) lasts about 2.3 sec after you log in. ;) )

[Uamhas]

Well Badsign, looks like we've got ya hooked! ;) One rule that I recommend people that play DDO learn and learn early is this: It's a game. We pay to play. Play= fun, entertainment, destress, loot, socialize, whatever qualifier applies to you. If you're not getting the feel of "play" then what are you paying for?
As for accepting the largesse of others: I believe that any person that finds themself in a party with a competent cleric should at least offer to tithe. It is up to the cleric whether to accept the offer or not. It's not taking advantage of someone to take what is given, since you can't squeeze blood from a stone. However, if you're uncomfortable with large amounts of plat or gifts of twinking gear, then decline. You're not obligated to accept. Happy hunting.
-Uma

[caliestro]

hand me downs???? you just gotta know how to juke and jab mini. scars is hated by turbine so here is my idea of a dish of things. if you are hated by them they will give you better loot. i mean look at me i **** off everything in my path. but i also install fear into people too. remember you run over everything i am more of a twisted person to sit and make things dance singing the "dacne to the music." that mindflayers didn't see that comming. also remeber i have feeblemind on both my sorc and wizard. it's a spell they never let go. it's all about how you run the mission if you zerg to zerg then u miss out on all the fun and enough that the loot tables ight ajust itself for you.

trissa so you know for an evil being ministry has good guy traits same with most of legion members. people think they are mean cause well they drink during the mission and then if you mess up they tell you how much of a nub you really are. hence i think some of the devs ran with them and "couldn't keep up" with the speed they run at and were called out. this might be the reason why the devs in general hate legion altogether. they aren't suppose to show it but we all know different. yup and since my guild leader can't post due to the fact they give major infraction points of him saying how he is displeased with certain actions of the devs parts so he can't post his mind

[Ministry]

... hand me downs????
... remember you run over everything...
... trissa so you know for an evil being ministry has good guy traits same with most of legion members. people think they are mean cause well they drink during the mission and then if you mess up they tell you how much of a nub you really are. hence i think some of the devs ran with them and "couldn't keep up" with the speed they run at and were called out. this might be the reason why the devs in general hate legion altogether...

Ya, I get the extras from Eriik and Scars, but you give me the premium stuff that you should keep for yourself, but then again, I've given you a couple of things you can use... :)

Ya, I run over everything, but doesn't help when I open up chests and get level 5 stuff and people are pulling tomes and vorps all around me...

Yes, Legion has some very good traits, but it is the one that is perceived as bad (zerging at light speed while intoxicated and calling people out for not being able to keep up, or not picking up their stones when they die while trying to keep up) that has people having a hate on for us. Cmon really now... how many times can you do a quest before you get so bored that you start running it on a timer to see how fast you can beat it? We did VON 3 in 4 or 5 minutes a couple of weeks ago, just to see how fast we could...

:)

All in all, for all the hate, there are more people in game that know we are not all that bad... only when we want to be, and mostly... well... okay, some of the time, just for fun.

;)

[DoctorWhofan]

hand me downs???? you just gotta know how to juke and jab mini. scars is hated by turbine so here is my idea of a dish of things. if you are hated by them they will give you better loot. i mean look at me i **** off everything in my path. but i also install fear into people too. remember you run over everything i am more of a twisted person to sit and make things dance singing the "dacne to the music." that mindflayers didn't see that comming. also remeber i have feeblemind on both my sorc and wizard. it's a spell they never let go. it's all about how you run the mission if you zerg to zerg then u miss out on all the fun and enough that the loot tables ight ajust itself for you.

trissa so you know for an evil being ministry has good guy traits same with most of legion members. people think they are mean cause well they drink during the mission and then if you mess up they tell you how much of a nub you really are. hence i think some of the devs ran with them and "couldn't keep up" with the speed they run at and were called out. this might be the reason why the devs in general hate legion altogether. they aren't suppose to show it but we all know different. yup and since my guild leader can't post due to the fact they give major infraction points of him saying how he is displeased with certain actions of the devs parts so he can't post his mind

..and I was teasing him...and Legion!:p

I like Legion, even though I'm not the same league with them! One day, I'll finally will and maybe MAYBE, I will have the chance to add "LEGIONAIRRE" to my sig!;):D:p

[Badsign]

Hey guys!

Yeah Ministry dont feel alone i have pretty much a zero bs tolerance too, but i am so laid back 99% of the time that noone notices until i pull a lung out of thier left nostril.Unfortunately i am getin kinda scared. there seems to be pretty much noone here that isn't cool, great, nice, helpful, etc etc. Looks like i'll have to save my lung pullin trick for somewhere else!

Lol! Lotsa luvs!

Badsign

[Ministry]

Hey guys!

Yeah Ministry dont feel alone i have pretty much a zero bs tolerance too, but i am so laid back 99% of the time that noone notices until i pull a lung out of thier left nostril.Unfortunately i am getin kinda scared. there seems to be pretty much noone here that isn't cool, great, nice, helpful, etc etc. Looks like i'll have to save my lung pullin trick for somewhere else!
Badsign

Wait for it... there are a lot out there... You've just been lucky.

I made my second cleric a while ago and went through pug hell for the first 10 levels, after that I started running with friends and guildies till 11 and then started just soloing everything I could to keep away from PUGS.

Don't get me wrong, for the most part it will be okay to good... but about 25% - 30% of the time you will want to and may pull some lungs out.

Especially as you start running with Barbarians and Tanks that don't believe in spending cash on heal pots or giving you cash for wands.

;)

[Badsign]

Hah! i have an easy solution there Mini, my brother. i have no cash and therefore dont use wands. so when i am outta SP, they die.
Lol! so do i shortly thereafer sometimes but hey such is the nature of the beast. i scrimped and saved and just blew the entire 30 plat i had buying a helm that added 10% to heal spells so i have a total of about 400g left ;-P you see no worry in my eye tho ;-P

Lotsa luvs.

Badsign

[Ministry]

Hah! i have an easy solution there Mini, my brother. i have no cash and therefore dont use wands. so when i am outta SP, they die.
Lol! so do i shortly thereafer sometimes but hey such is the nature of the beast. i scrimped and saved and just blew the entire 30 plat i had buying a helm that added 10% to heal spells so i have a total of about 400g left ;-P you see no worry in my eye tho ;-P


Smart purchase, but from now on I wouldn't bother buying ***** like that, cuz you will prolly find it soon enough.

Yup, "Sorry team, I don't have any wands on me right now, so after my spell points are gone, that's that, so I would recommend playing smart and staying close together or go and buy some wands... your choice..."

;)

[Ringos]

..and I was teasing him...and Legion!:p

I like Legion, even though I'm not the same league with them! One day, I'll finally will and maybe MAYBE, I will have the chance to add "LEGIONAIRRE" to my sig!;):D:p

Uh, Trissa...that's just a show of support. Trust me (look at sig)...you don't have to be uber to have that in your sig! :)

[caliestro]

I NEVER GOT ASKED TO BE A LEGIONAIRRE. i was asked to join but i am not part of that "clique". they said i don't drink enough to keep up with them.

[DoctorWhofan]

I NEVER GOT ASKED TO BE A LEGIONAIRRE. i was asked to join but i am not part of that "clique". they said i don't drink enough to keep up with them.

I don't think anyone can drink enough to keep up with them!!!

[caliestro]

you would be mighty suprized haha i drink to get dead. i am known as an alchoholic corpse. i can keep up just i tend to hit the level where i start attacking a wall thinking it's ghola fan in stormcleave

[Ministry]

you would be mighty suprized haha i drink to get dead. i am known as an alchoholic corpse. i can keep up just i tend to hit the level where i start attacking a wall thinking it's ghola fan in stormcleave

Not sure if I've ever witnessed Cali playing drunk, but most of the time he's very easy going and great to team with, but every once in a while he gets quiet and he changes into a BADASS who zergs and talks to people like they don't even exist or have a clue what they are doing.

So, which one is the drunk Cali?

:)

[Ministry]

..and I was teasing him...and Legion!:p

I like Legion, even though I'm not the same league with them! One day, I'll finally will and maybe MAYBE, I will have the chance to add "LEGIONAIRRE" to my sig!;):D:p

Ya, no one from Legion ever asked for or expected any support from the rest of the community, whether making posts that would be on our behalf or by even putting "Legionairre" in their sig, but from way back behind the scenes, beyond the booze and cursing and zerging, there was an appreciation, for all those who saw what was happening to a number of Legion folks.

Again, it was never asked for or expected, but it was very cool to see.

Just goes to show even though we are all in different guilds and do things differently, we are all players on the same server who will watch out for each others backs. And... when the server's rep is at stake... well, you saw what happened in the server race to unlock the new content... Thelanis got together and we helped each other out and won.

;)

[Ringos]

Ya, no one from Legion ever asked for or expected any support from the rest of the community, whether making posts that would be on our behalf or by even putting "Legionairre" in their sig, but from way back behind the scenes, beyond the booze and cursing and zerging, there was an appreciation, for all those who saw what was happening to a number of Legion folks.

Again, it was never asked for or expected, but it was very cool to see.

Just goes to show even though we are all in different guilds and do things differently, we are all players on the same server who will watch out for each others backs. And... when the server's rep is at stake... well, you saw what happened in the server race to unlock the new content... Thelanis got together and we helped each other out and won.

;)

Well said Min. Nobody asked...a non-Legion person had the idea and people liked it and wanted to show support for some folks getting a raw deal. Some are well liked, some are probably not liked (not by me...never met a Legion person I didn't like!) and most may be unknown by the general population since they don't PUG a great deal. None of that matters.



BTW...I just realized who Caliestro's alts are. That explains who that nutty wizard was the other day in the Hound. (although I did recognize the name of the Pali in the Hound tonight, so I was prepared!)

[caliestro]

yup thats me the nutty wizard i was givin a goal "protect mysterra" i was a guard dog and i killed anything that stepped close. "cali go kill the render in the middle" i am a complete nut job but also loyal as heck :D. yup if your leader of the party and tell me to kill something oh i will do it

[Memnir]

Off topic...

The Legionnaire idea was mine and brought up on the original House T forums. I'm not saying that to brag, just so you know whom to blame. :) I was sick and tired of seeing people whom I consider to be good friends or players whom I respect a great deal being treated like garbage by many of the powers that be around these forums - and I mean that in the totality from Devs to Mods to members of the playing public who frequent these boards. There was a rash of Legion folks being banned at that time, and I wanted to let it be known that they may be gone, but would not be forgotten. I'm not a member of Legion - but I have their back.

So yeah... one need not ask or be asked to put Legionnaire in their siggy. You just kinda do it.

[caliestro]

hehe ok boss if you say so then i have a new sig muahahahahaha

[Ringos]

Off topic...

The Legionnaire idea was mine and brought up on the original House T forums. I'm not saying that to brag, just so you know whom to blame. :) I was sick and tired of seeing people whom I consider to be good friends or players whom I respect a great deal being treated like garbage by many of the powers that be around these forums - and I mean that in the totality from Devs to Mods to members of the playing public who frequent these boards. There was a rash of Legion folks being banned at that time, and I wanted to let it be known that they may be gone, but would not be forgotten. I'm not a member of Legion - but I have their back.

So yeah... one need not ask or be asked to put Legionnaire in their siggy. You just kinda do it.

Sorry...I forgot who to 'blame'. I was just swept up in the wave! :)



Side note to Caliestro: Thanks for throwing those LoH last night (I take it they were from you). My wand/cure mod spells weren't doing the trick. Thanks also to Hal for raising me at the end! :)

[caliestro]

Sorry...I forgot who to 'blame'. I was just swept up in the wave! :)



Side note to Caliestro: Thanks for throwing those LoH last night (I take it they were from you). My wand/cure mod spells weren't doing the trick. Thanks also to Hal for raising me at the end! :)

yea i am like a cleric but meaner. i will try to keep people alive as long as possible you were ripping apart those mindflayers i was going for there heads

[MrWizard]

why are all the threads in this forum turning into a legion vs the world. This was about warcraft peopel coming here and then it changed as did the last 4 threads.

lets get back to the warcraft thing, that was interesting, listening to you fight over whether you are good or not is for another thread, not this one. You might run off the warcraft people who are finally coming here.

[DoctorWhofan]

why are all the threads in this forum turning into a legion vs the world. This was about warcraft peopel coming here and then it changed as did the last 4 threads.

lets get back to the warcraft thing, that was interesting, listening to you fight over whether you are good or not is for another thread, not this one. You might run off the warcraft people who are finally coming here.

my fault...which means it's Ringos fault!:p

Seriously, I've been playing with Omenborn the last few days

[Ringos]

my fault...which means it's Ringos fault!:p

Agreed! :)

BTW...watched the first four videos. Cool stuff!

[DoctorWhofan]

Agreed! :)

BTW...watched the first four videos. Cool stuff!

About time!! No Raiding until done!!!:p

Seriously, I have been playing with Omenborn (badsign's character) a couple of days. Can't wait to meet the wife he keeps telling me about!

[Pwesiela]

Welcome Badsign, to the land of milk and honey. That's Thelanis.
I think i speak for pretty much all of us here when I say that if you're in-game and have a question, you can find anyone of us (either by finding us via the who panel, or by asking a guildmate of ours) and we'd be happy to answer any questions you got. That is, if we aren't busy getting ourselves on the wrong end of a large pike....:D

I must say though, the best class in the game is the one you're missing...the ranger;)

Just off the top of my head, the following are guilds that would be happy do direct you to an officer or guildleader who would be able and willing to answer questions:

Wayfinders of Kapairian Nanwel (gotta start with my own:rolleyes:)
Infamous Flaming Vagabonds
Legion (but watch out for those Legion boys...they scare me:eek:)
The Exploration Society
Scourge of Xoriat
Amen
Band of the Shifting Sands
Fellowship of the Golden Knight (especially for any roleplay questions you might have. Afterall, we ARE the RP capital as well as the capital of everything else)
Hey You Talkin to Me (the guild, not a rehash of the first guild on the list)
Militia
Order of the Sword and Rose
Sublime Permadeath Guild (for when you want to have a dead character STAY dead:eek:)
Wicked (be afraid, be very afraid)

That list having been done (if I missed yours, please, beat me with light stripes), I still say if you were to message anyone in a guild, you'll likely as not get a worthwhile answer in return (It took us a while to calm those ex-Xoriat people down, but now they're getting close to respectable. At least they won't bite your head off anymore...:D). And frankly, real time Q/A is probably going to be more useful than bit by bit here on the forums.

Look us up, and see ya around Stormreach, and Therenal, and Meridia, and Three Barrel Cove, and Ataraxia's Haven, and the Desert, and Gianthold, and, well, you get the idea.:p

[Ministry]

... (It took us a while to calm those ex-Xoriat people down, but now they're getting close to respectable. At least they won't bite your head off anymore...:D)...

Oh, we are far from calm and will still bite the head off anyone who ****es us off (which is easy to do).

Respectable - NEVER

Ex-Xoriat - NEVER - You are who you are and you come from where you are born, no matter where you are transplanted, thus making us from Xoriat forever. You can take our home away, but you can't take our home out of our dark black hearts.

Just like those coming from WOW. You can leave one game to come to another, but what you learned in one world will help you in another. I came from COH/COV and within days felt comfortable in DDO within days, because ultimately all gaming worlds are made by people and up of people from the same world.

I live by many principles, but the one that has faired me well in DDO is this one... "It's not what you are saying or what you are asking for, it's how you say it". Based on my experience, about 50% of the people on the server will respond afirmatively to you if you pose a question in a proper manner, but then there is the tricky part... What percentage of those answers will be of any value. I could talk to 10 of my best mates in game and get a number of different answers. Ask many people many questions and get many answers and then jump in there and see what works best, using your own personal storehouse of knowleged and that information you have acquired from people in the game and GOOD LUCK!

;)

[Pwesiela]

Oh, we are far from calm and will still bite the head off anyone who ****es us off (which is easy to do).

Respectable - NEVER

Ex-Xoriat - NEVER - You are who you are and you come from where you are born, no matter where you are transplanted, thus making us from Xoriat forever. You can take our home away, but you can't take our home out of our dark black hearts.

;)

Oh hush Ministry. Here, have a kobold plushy toy:D *Gives Ministry a cute blue stuffed kobold*

[DoctorWhofan]

Oh hush Ministry. Here, have a kobold plushy toy:D *Gives Ministry a cute blue stuffed kobold*

cuz he ain't gonna getthe cute mini beholder plushies!!! THose are for the rest of server!

[Badsign]

Hey! I like Plushie toys too!! they explode nicely when hit with a 12 gauge.....

Lol! seriously i have been havin a ball with Trissa! she is reely reely great!. i played a bit with her hubby too but he's the silent type. I find myself stalling out when i am not with someone who has actually invited me to come with them and i go back and run quests solo till i hit elite. i solo'd all of the Harbor quests Trissa and i did on elite just to make sure i could do it and i then solo'd "The Low Road"
on elite three times until i noticed the xp drops off! that was educational. does the xp stop dropping? or do you just get less and less until you finally get nothing? anyway i hope to see all of you at some point! if you see Omenborn on, please say hello! i appreciate just sayin hi! as much as i do help! if you guys have nooblets i am happy to drop what i am doin to help you complete quests or runs, i seem to learn faster that way. I am a pretty decent healer although i am still learnin the spells, at least i havent lost anybody from a group yet if i still had spell points or was alive ;-P

Lotsa Luvs!

Badsign

[DoctorWhofan]

Hey! I like Plushie toys too!! they explode nicely when hit with a 12 gauge.....

Lol! seriously i have been havin a ball with Trissa! she is reely reely great!. i played a bit with her hubby too but he's the silent type. I find myself stalling out when i am not with someone who has actually invited me to come with them and i go back and run quests solo till i hit elite. i solo'd all of the Harbor quests Trissa and i did on elite just to make sure i could do it and i then solo'd "The Low Road"
on elite three times until i noticed the xp drops off! that was educational. does the xp stop dropping? or do you just get less and less until you finally get nothing? anyway i hope to see all of you at some point! if you see Omenborn on, please say hello! i appreciate just sayin hi! as much as i do help! if you guys have nooblets i am happy to drop what i am doin to help you complete quests or runs, i seem to learn faster that way. I am a pretty decent healer although i am still learnin the spells, at least i havent lost anybody from a group yet if i still had spell points or was alive ;-P

Lotsa Luvs!

Badsign


Yes the XP does drop after 3 times, or you could do Water Works all the time to level cap! Serious, there would be some idiot who would run it if he could!

If you saw the cute mini beholders in the new Hound quest, Badsign, you wouldn't give a fluffy verison of them to Ministry, either!!

Thank you for the kind words, sorry I could not play last nite with you, I was getting my butt handed to me in Visions of Destruction.

Go ahead Jrp, laugh. I know you want to!:p

That;s ok, will be playing today with my minsd firmly in the old stuff, some TS runs, maybe a Gianthold TOr for Trissa cuz my repair bill from last nite is making me cry! However, if you and the mysterious wife of yours comes on, I will difinatly play with you guys!! Had a blast the last few times we did!

[MTG]

Sorry about the quite thing one of my computers wont let me use my headphones so if i want to party I have to switch computers.

[DoctorWhofan]

Sorry about the quite thing one of my computers wont let me use my headphones so if i want to party I have to switch computers.

and I talk enough for the both of us.:p

[Badsign]

Hey! No worries Trissa! you are not my personal DDO trainer! so dont feel bad if you want to (Heaven Forbid) play a grown up toon ;-P
I will always find Something to do! I had been havin plenny fun an even when i dont accomplish much i usually learn somethin.
anyway are there leveling guides for toons out there? you know, where folks recommend the best quest chains an where to get em? i can solo most quests on normal but there are some that are really really hard, and a lot of the groups i see my level range are doing quests i never heard of.
mainly because they use initials instead of spellin the quest out ;-D.

Thanks in advance!

Badsign

[Ringos]

Hey! No worries Trissa! you are not my personal DDO trainer! so dont feel bad if you want to (Heaven Forbid) play a grown up toon ;-P
I will always find Something to do! I had been havin plenny fun an even when i dont accomplish much i usually learn somethin.
anyway are there leveling guides for toons out there? you know, where folks recommend the best quest chains an where to get em? i can solo most quests on normal but there are some that are really really hard, and a lot of the groups i see my level range are doing quests i never heard of.
mainly because they use initials instead of spellin the quest out ;-D.

Thanks in advance!

Badsign

Trissa is like a mother hen. Sorry, but you're stuck.

:)

[moorewr]

Trissa is like a mother hen. Sorry, but you're stuck.

:)

Ha ha! The shepherd of Tempest's Spine strikes again!

[DoctorWhofan]

Ha ha! The shepherd of Tempest's Spine strikes again!


Trissa is like a mother hen. Sorry, but you're stuck.

:)

I hate you all, you know that?


Anyways here's a short list:

Co6: Cult of the Six/ Greymoon. level 6ish
SC: Stormcleave level 5ish
WW: Water Works
TS: Tempest's Spine Level 7-8 for normal, 8-12 on hard/elite
DQ: Deamon Queen. THe numbers coorspond to the pre-raid and raid. Levels 12+
VoN: Vault of Night numbers cooraspond to the quest, pre raid and raid Levels 8+ also known as the Dragon raid
MoM: Maze of Madness level 10ish and up
PoP: Prisoner of the Planes Level 12ish
TR: Tangleroot level 4 in house P
STK: Shan-to-Kor level 4 in the Marketplace
HiPS: Hiding in Plain SIght Level 10ish pre req for Titan

Then others that are known by name:

Hound: Hound of Xoriat Levels 15+
Titan: Refers to the Titan Raid, bot the Pre-raid and Raid Level 12
Delera's: Refers to the Delera's chain, in House J Level 6ish
Depths: 4 linked quests in House Denieth, all start with Depths level 3+
Catacombs: A marketplace chain quests that start in the catacombs Level 4ish
Proof: Proof is in the Poison, in the marketplace. Says level 6 try level 8+ on normal
The Vampire: The church and the Cult. Bring silver weapons Level 8+
Gwylans: Gwylan's stand, in house P level 5ish
THernal: a set of 9 quests in an area called THernal. Level 8ish
Necro, or Necropolis: THe numbers refer to the set Necro 1 level 5ish, Necro 2 level 8ish, Necro 3 level 12ish
Abbot: refers to the Abbot Raid, in the necropolis. Nobody has really beat it yet.
Shroud: Shroud raid in Meridia/Vale/the twelve
Rainbow: Rainbow in the dark, a vale quest level 14+
Reaver: the reaver raid, in Gianthold level 12
GH: Gianthold, not a quest but an area


Might have missed some but this is the most common ones Badsign.

[Ministry]

...If you saw the cute mini beholders in the new Hound quest, Badsign, you wouldn't give a fluffy verison of them to Ministry, either!!...

OMG... Those little guys are soooooooooooo cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute!

I tried to capture one, but he kept trying to shoot little beams at me. They didn't do anything too much to me, but no matter how much I tried to pat him and get him to calm down, I couldn't.

And then when I tried to give him a little smack to slow him down to show him who the alpha male was, he just went splat.

I WANT A MINI BEHOLDER PLUSHIE ******!!!

Grrr...

[DoctorWhofan]

OMG... Those little guys are soooooooooooo cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute!

I tried to capture one, but he kept trying to shoot little beams at me. They didn't do anything too much to me, but no matter how much I tried to pat him and get him to calm down, I couldn't.

And then when I tried to give him a little smack to slow him down to show him who the alpha male was, he just went splat.

I WANT A MINI BEHOLDER PLUSHIE ******!!!

Grrr...

Here I am, people dying and screaming about those Mind Flyers, all I was thinking as I was getting debuffed and being shot at was "Awwww They're sssssoooooo CUTE!!!" And was going to take a picture and all when I noticed that I had 3 negitive levels.

Obviously a rabid Mini-beholder and it needed to be put down. So Sad.

[Sani_Medicor]

I left Thelanis about a year ago, but I was leaning towards joining the Infamous Flaming Vagabonds. I would definitely check them out.