All Cleric Shroud Completion Run 5/10

[lostinjapan]

Well...someone asked, so here it is...

Date & Time: 5/10/08 10:00 PM EST
Requirements:



You must have least 9 levels (majority) of cleric, please POST YOUR BUILD or you will not be added to the list.
You must have completed The Shroud at least once before and not be on timer.
You MUST bring greater construct bane or force weapon(s) which can do significant damage to the portals in part one. There will be no standing about watching everyone else hit the portals because "I don't have a weapon to hit them with."
You must supply your own potions, wands and/or scrolls should you choose to use them.
The following is on a first-come, first serve basis. I am reserving a few spots for Legion members but otherwise it is open.

NOTICE:Due to the number of cancellations and people telling me to move them to the ALT list, I have narrowed this down to ONE group. If you are not on the main list, I'm sorry...but do please be on at the specified time because there may be a spot for you.

Sign-ups:


LEADER: Xalixis - 16 Cleric
Bodak - 16 Cleric
Saamis - 16 Cleric
DrEldun - 15 Cleric/1 Fighter
Medicnehorse - 16 Cleric
Sissee - 15 Cleric/1 Fighter
Dalharil - 16 Cleric
Shakkei - 15 Cleric
Xillia - 16 Cleric
Jrpfactors - 14 Cleric/2 Fighter
Ringos - 16 Cleric
Herk - 16 Cleric

Alts:


Axio - 16 Cleric
Madmardigan - 15 Cleric/1 Paladin
Moridin - 16 Cleric
Isabele - 16 Cleric
Hyggee - 16 Cleric
Suvene - 16 Cleric
Unitus - 16 Cleric
Compasion - 16 Cleric
Bandaides - 16 Cleric
Sullien - 16 Cleric
Toadstomper - 16 Cleric
Vodka - 16 Cleric
Alfredsartan - 16 Cleric
Mediclady - 15 Cleric/1 Fighter
Steele - 16 Cleric

Recommendations:


Rage potions
Haste potions
Heroism potions (or planar girds)
IF you choose to melee the pit fiend, you will need to supply your own displacements and haste, as well as making arrangements beforehand for one of the other clerics to keep you healed. Otherwise I suggest you bring a reliable ranged weapon (and lots of ammo!) to use against the Pit Fiend.
Reliable: Greater evil/lawful outsider bane weapons, holy burst silver/transmuting weapons, silver/transmuting of pure good weapons. Silver arrows/bolts.
All the typical cleric scrolls, wands, potions
Quicken metamagic!

[Murgatroyd]

Sounds like a lot of fun. The all cleric Reaver rocked, so I'm sure this won't be any different. The only thing that scares me is the lag monster that's shown up since the patch.

Herk, dwarf cleric 16
HP: 348
SP: 1615

Made to heal and to not die. Can melee and also carries a mean blade barrier.

[adamkatt]

Steele
lvl 16
cleric
hp 340
sp 1525

No completions on this cleric yet.
But plenty on other characters..

[Shyver]

Double post

[Shyver]

Sounds like fun.

Shyvis

Cleric 15/Paladin 1
409 hp/1654 SP

[Impaqt]

I can most likely bring one of my clerics....
Alandale 16 Human Nul Spec
Allendale 15/1Paly
Steelyn 14/2Rogue w/ Full Rogue Skills and UMD

[Kraak]

I can bring either:

Kraak - to heal/melee/buff - in that order
Sunovkraak - to melee/buff/heal - in that order

Both are GCB equipped. Sun is better with vorps and a transmuting daxe of GEB. Kraak is better for healing. If anyone wants a dedicated healer on the pit fiend - I'll support up to 2 melee.

[Ringos]

Ringos
16 Cleric - Generalist
240 HP/1465 SP
I can range the Pit Fiend or heal Steele while he goes toe to toe with him...if he's nice to me :)

I will admit that if I get stuck in a 5x5 room, I have 0% chance of solving it before the Wall gets me. I understand if this eliminates me from consideration...

[lostinjapan]

I can bring either:

Kraak - to heal/melee/buff - in that order
Sunovkraak - to melee/buff/heal - in that order

Both are GCB equipped. Sun is better with vorps and a transmuting daxe of GEB. Kraak is better for healing. If anyone wants a dedicated healer on the pit fiend - I'll support up to 2 melee.

Hey Kraak, need your class/levels for whichever you want to bring.

[moorewr]

Alfredsartan - 16 Cleric - I have a three month old baby and a wife who works from home, so, um, treat me as an alternate. :)

[Sambvca]

Sign Me Up

Vodka - 16 Cl

292 / 1715

28
14
10
26 or 24
34
12

[binnsr]

Zhelda - death priestess
16 Cleric
270hp/1615hp

I have not completed the shroud (mostly due to apathy) but know the drill - although if that disqualifies me, I understand.
I have dual gcb's (will borrow my rogues adoryn's malices (malici?)) for the portals
For part 4/5, I'll use a Silver Bow and Silver House D Arrows but she's not set up for melee or ranged combat so don't expect miracles there :)

[Coldin]

I wonder...How is an all cleric run going to deal with Part 3? Guess you'll have to make sure at least one has a splash of rogue, or everyone can solve the puzzles.

[moorewr]

I wonder...How is an all cleric run going to deal with Part 3? Guess you'll have to make sure at least one has a splash of rogue, or everyone can solve the puzzles.

True dat! Better bring a clerogue -- Impaqt's Steelyn would be perfect.

[Paladin20]

if still possible, please add Isabele (Cleric 15/Sorc 1) to the list. Thanks!

[Higgy]

Hyggee (pronounced Higgy)

16 cleric.

262 hp/1490 sp

GCBs, and will figure out a ranged weapon

[Bunker]

Kardinal lvl 16 cleric

250/1765

[Scarsgaard]

Scarsisin

[Uamhas]

Dalharil 16 cleric or Uamhas 16 cleric
mediocre healing, substandard buffing, not a melee master, loves warfrogs.
Both are shroud ready.

[Luthen]

Bah... was gonna do this but was lazy posting. So I'll bandwagon with you guys if possible.

Madmardigan

15 Cleric / 1 Paladin (46 AC / 400 HP / 1659 SP)
24 Str
26 Con
20 Dex
32 Wis
All healing Enhancements
Improved Critical Slashing
Scrolls out the wazoo

[Murgatroyd]

Clerics unite! Notice how the all cleric group filled faster than the all rogue one did? :D

[binnsr]

Clerics unite! Notice how the all cleric group filled faster than the all rogue one did? :D

It was mostly bad timing on the rogue one for me ..

[Ringos]

Cleric runs tend to get a lot of response...probably because the only red bar you have to worry about is your own, which is nice for a change!

:)

[Ministry]

I'm in if you want a purely healing Cleric...

If you do, Ministrey is in... but if you need someone more balanced... I will gladly pass, although I think it would be a blast.

:)

[Ringos]

Looks like there is almost enough for two groups! :)

[Shyver]

Looks like there is almost enough for two groups! :)

It's a race!!!!!!!!!:D:D

2 groups enter..ect, ect, ect,

[Luthen]

Clerics unite! Notice how the all cleric group filled faster than the all rogue one did? :D

True. However if you'll check again you'll notice that a bunch of the first names on his list are not from posters in this thread which means he filled a bunch of slots with guildies first. nothing wrong with that just an observation.

[Shyver]

True. However if you'll check again you'll notice that a bunch of the first names on his list are not from posters in this thread which means he filled a bunch of slots with guildies first. nothing wrong with that just an observation.

Not to mention that most of those that signed up in the all cleric raid were the same that signed up for the all rogue raid.

[Judo]

338 hp/ 1670 sp


healer,
death by blade barrier

16clr

[~Jules921]

I haven't had a Shroud completetion, haven't been past part 4 - but MedicLady is game.

Jules

[~Jules921]

Cleric runs tend to get a lot of response...probably because the only red bar you have to worry about is your own, which is nice for a change!

:)

Very true.

Jules

[Uamhas]

Aside from the fact that LostinJapan isn't a He :P all you have to do is look past the OP and see how many replies/responses there are and it makes this a moot point, Luthen.
True. However if you'll check again you'll notice that a bunch of the first names on his list are not from posters in this thread which means he filled a bunch of slots with guildies first. nothing wrong with that just an observation.

[sirgog]

Alright, that's it, I'm copying this idea for Khyber.

[lostinjapan]

I wonder...How is an all cleric run going to deal with Part 3? Guess you'll have to make sure at least one has a splash of rogue, or everyone can solve the puzzles.

Well I was hoping we'd all been doing this enough that everyone would be able to do their own puzzle. However...since that doesn't seem to be the case....

Impaqt, I've changed you from Alandale to Steelyn. For myself, I will try to focus on levelling my currently lvl 9 cleric/rogue to 16 in the 2 weeks and getting her flagged...in which case I'll replace Xalixis with Butterscotch.


Looks like there is almost enough for two groups! :)

If there are enough for two groups (and it is looking like there is going to be if everyone shows up), we will have 2 groups run. Also if I can get Butterscotch levelled in time, we'll have 2 rogue clerics for the 2 groups.


True. However if you'll check again you'll notice that a bunch of the first names on his list are not from posters in this thread which means he filled a bunch of slots with guildies first. nothing wrong with that just an observation.

Her list. :D And yes, I did...as I said I was going to when I first posted. I believe you did the same? :cool:


Alright, that's it, I'm copying this idea for Khyber.

Haha, Thelanis domination! :p

[Impaqt]

I've run Several All Cleric Raids in the past. We usually have well over a dozen people interested. Unfortuantly RL ALWAYS gets in the way. People cant make it that thought they could... Or forget.....

WHen I ran Tian and Reavers we always have 15+ Sign up inthe forums, but ended up Puggin a few spots when it came down to crunch time.

[Luthen]

Her list. :D And yes, I did...as I said I was going to when I first posted. I believe you did the same? :cool:

Haha, Thelanis domination! :p

Yeah. Just one spot though. And if you're really a girl I think Im gonna need some photographic evidence. I prefer it be in something sleek with lots of leather and heels. ;)

[Ministry]

Hey,

How in the frick did I get stuck in the non-Legion group?

Oh... I get it... I get the bigger challenge.

Sweet.

:p

[lostinjapan]

Hey,

How in the frick did I get stuck in the non-Legion group?

Oh... I get it... I get the bigger challenge.

Sweet.

:p

You nut.

The groups have not been completely filled yet, and I'd like to do some re-dividing up (if I get Butterscotch up I'll be in one group while Steelyn is in the other) and hopefully have some extra alts for the ones who don't show up.

[Paladin20]

Impaqt, I've changed you from Alandale to Steelyn. For myself, I will try to focus on levelling my currently lvl 9 cleric/rogue to 16 in the 2 weeks and getting her flagged...in which case I'll replace Xalixis with Butterscotch.



If there are enough for two groups (and it is looking like there is going to be if everyone shows up), we will have 2 groups run. Also if I can get Butterscotch levelled in time, we'll have 2 rogue clerics for the 2 groups.




If my group doesn't have great dps I'll try and replace Isabele with my new Archer Cleric, Kaylesa, if I can lvl up and get her flagged the next couple weeks; that way we could have at least one cleric with Manyshot, which would be awesome since she does carry a Holy of Gr. Evil Outsider Bane Bow. The only drawback is that her build will only be complete after monks come out, so I'd be taking a Cleric 12/Ranger 2.

[Coldin]

Why is there more response for the cleric run? Well that's easy. Because no one really plays rogues. All those rogues volunteering in the Rogue Shroud run? All just a figment of imagination. Who's imagination? Everyone's! :D

And now for a haiku...

Rogues, where have they gone?
Into the shadows. They wait.
Mod Seven, it calls.


But seriously, there are probably just more people around with capped clerics than there are with capped rogues.

[Music_Man]

Granted that I do not have to work that evening, which is a fair chance, I would gladly bring my cleric-thingy:

Noobitron the Psychonaut, Warforge Barbarian Cleric. (currently Lvl 14 - 12c/2b)

:confused: :cool:

[lostinjapan]

Updated. Would like to add more 'Alts' for those who aren't going to show up...so if you are interested, or know someone who is...go ahead and sign up.

[lostinjapan]

Yeah. Just one spot though. And if you're really a girl I think Im gonna need some photographic evidence. I prefer it be in something sleek with lots of leather and heels. ;)

Will this do?

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a289/snapless/other/doll.gif

Hehe...sorry...not going to post my own picture. You'll just have to take my word for it...or simply listen to me talk in party chat. While it wouldn't be impossible for a male to imitate my voice...I'll just say it's highly unlikely.:cool:

[Murgatroyd]

Hey,

How in the frick did I get stuck in the non-Legion group?

Oh... I get it... I get the bigger challenge.

Sweet.

:p

Well I'm stuck with the Legion group :p

I think that before the raids start, people should put up lfm's stating that clerical services will be severely impacted between 10:00pm EST to 12:00am EST :)

Twenty-four clerics step in, only twelve step out...

[Shade]

Few tips:

Greater construct bane is ok, but puregood burst weapons are superior.. And being every cleric want a true rez clicky anyways - why not make one, tier2's arent too hard to make.
Just need 1 cleric with a couple umd to pop some ray of enfeeblement scrolls to make it go much faster.

For haste - ideally at least 1 clr has the nice 1:36 haste clicky. Air + Air + Air = SP/+umd skills so generally a good accessory for a cleric anyways. Potions when it runs out.

Meleeing the pit fiend - really if you got 12 clerics, you should have ideally at least 6 melee, 2 or so can mass heal those, and the other 4 can range.. Then swap when the healing ones go low mana, should last tons of rounds doing it that way.

Also displacement won't help - he wears the DQ googles.

[moorewr]

Also displacement won't help - he wears the DQ googles.

:confused: My mark of shadows tank just died a little inside.

[Master_of_None]

Why is there more response for the cleric run? Well that's easy. Because no one really plays rogues. All those rogues volunteering in the Rogue Shroud run? All just a figment of imagination. Who's imagination? Everyone's! :D

And now for a haiku...

Rogues, where have they gone?
Into the shadows. They wait.
Mod Seven, it calls.


But seriously, there are probably just more people around with capped clerics than there are with capped rogues.

And notice, in contrast to the cleric raid, no one thought it would be necessary to warn Thelanis of a server-wide scarcity of rogues when the rogue raid goes off.

So I'll respond to your haiku with a philosophical question: if twelve rogues do the Shroud and nobody notices, do they make a sound?

[Coldin]

So I'll respond to your haiku with a philosophical question: if twelve rogues do the Shroud and nobody notices, do they make a sound?

Well, we wouldn't be very good rogues if we did, now would we? ;)

[Lawst]

While it wouldn't be impossible for a male to imitate my voice...I'll just say it's highly unlikely.:cool:

Yes but can you get as high a pitch as Ilundel? :D

[lostinjapan]

Few tips:

Greater construct bane is ok, but puregood burst weapons are superior.. And being every cleric want a true rez clicky anyways - why not make one, tier2's arent too hard to make.
Just need 1 cleric with a couple umd to pop some ray of enfeeblement scrolls to make it go much faster.

For haste - ideally at least 1 clr has the nice 1:36 haste clicky. Air + Air + Air = SP/+umd skills so generally a good accessory for a cleric anyways. Potions when it runs out.

Meleeing the pit fiend - really if you got 12 clerics, you should have ideally at least 6 melee, 2 or so can mass heal those, and the other 4 can range.. Then swap when the healing ones go low mana, should last tons of rounds doing it that way.

Also displacement won't help - he wears the DQ googles.

Seriously...I really don't need the help, I believe I'm quite capable of handling this venture on my own...but I thank you for coming into my thread and trying to take over.

[moorewr]

And notice, in contrast to the cleric raid, no one thought it would be necessary to warn Thelanis of a server-wide scarcity of rogues when the rogue raid goes off.

So I'll respond to your haiku with a philosophical question: if twelve rogues do the Shroud and nobody notices, do they make a sound?

They'd have to be really gimp to fail a move silently roll at that level.

[JayDubya]

Heh,

I'm happy to bring Axio (or Axiomus if he's ready by then), feel free to put me in the alt pile. Axio is a 16 cleric, standard generalist. I'll have dual gcbs, wands, potions, etc.

Axiomus is a 12 cleric, but will probably be 13 at least by then. he's more of a CC build cleric, which should help in the earlier parts of the Shroud, not so much in the later.

[Murgatroyd]

if twelve rogues do the Shroud and nobody notices, do they make a sound?

How does the saying go?
...In Shavarath no one hears you scream.

[Impaqt]

Doh..... I wont be around on the 10th.. My Brothers getting married..... Didnt dawn on me till now.... Best of luck folks

[TreknaQudane]

Depending on my availability I can bring Either Suvene (16 Cleric, Human) or Oleaceae (15 Cleric, Warforged)

They are both primarily designed for Healing from Mana but each have some melee capability to speed things up while healing.

I'm probably not going to know till a day or two before the raid if I can go, so put me on the reserve for the reserve list.

[Dozen_Black_Roses]

For the Alt list....

I am now working on getting Shakkei my 14th lvl pure Cleric flagged, I only need Rainbow at this point. Then will have to complete a shroud, as I have only run 1-4 one time with Legion, on my bard Gaelsong. I know I have a +2 flaming burst of greater construct bane heavy mace I can use. Not going to post her stats yet, as she is about to level to 15 and that will all change. She really is just a healing cleric, aside from Banishment and Destruction when needed I just focus on healing, and like to think I do a good job. I am going to change around some of her feats so I can get a good BB going.

[Scarsgaard]

For the Alt list....

I am now working on getting Shakkei my 14th lvl pure Cleric flagged, I only need Rainbow at this point. Then will have to complete a shroud, as I have only run 1-4 one time with Legion, on my bard Gaelsong. I know I have a +2 flaming burst of greater construct bane heavy mace I can use. Not going to post her stats yet, as she is about to level to 15 and that will all change. She really is just a healing cleric, aside from Banishment and Destruction when needed I just focus on healing, and like to think I do a good job. I am going to change around some of her feats so I can get a good BB going.

I'm hoping to get a Shroud in tonight when I get home from work and 2 more Reavers but after that... I'll help you do Rainbow on whatever toon you like... most likely Chlem (TC Smiting Falchion for the win :) )

[yk49]

uum time zone converter ...

for alts,

Xillia clr16, elven longsword cleric
str 28
hp 230ish
+4 shock silver longsword of pg
dual weilding greater construct longsword

you may wanna add this lost;

must be able to handle puzzles at part3 (at least with slover).
we dont see too many clr/rog...

[Murgatroyd]

uum time zone converter ...

10:00pm EST is GMT -4

[lostinjapan]

uum time zone converter ...

http://www.timeanddate.com/

:p

[Torilin]

Well looks like I may be to late for this but I can be an alt.

Unitus

Cleric 16
248 HP
1685 SP

over 70 shroud victories....

[Ministry]

Well looks like I may be to late for this but I can be an alt.

Unitus

Cleric 16
248 HP
1685 SP

over 70 shroud victories....

Maybe there will be enough Clerics for 3 runs... hahaha... can you say *** are all the Clerics???

hahaha

[Murgatroyd]

Maybe there will be enough Clerics for 3 runs... hahaha... can you say *** are all the Clerics???

Maybe we should start spamvertising in the LFM's to get even more cleric shroud runs going...two is not enough. :D

One raid to rule them all...

[Uamhas]

So what IS the DC on the door locks in the puzzle part? If someone can UMD a knock wand, what lvl wand should it be?

[Torilin]

So what IS the DC on the door locks in the puzzle part? If someone can UMD a knock wand, what lvl wand should it be?

Should the puzzles really be a concern, seems all the names listed for the 2 runs should be able to solve their puzzle. And if not, im sure someone can coach a puzzle completion.


Maybe there will be enough Clerics for 3 runs... hahaha... can you say *** are all the Clerics???

hahaha


Would be funny to bring the shroud to a halt because no clerics are available.

[Ringos]

[QUOTE=Torilin;1691465]Should the puzzles really be a concern, seems all the names listed for the 2 runs should be able to solve their puzzle. And if not, im sure someone can coach a puzzle completion.QUOTE]


As I have stated before, I have zero chance of getting out of a 5x5 room. Not that I can't use the solver...it's trying to hit just the area 'm aiming for. Not pretty...


:)

[moorewr]

[QUOTE=Torilin;1691465]Should the puzzles really be a concern, seems all the names listed for the 2 runs should be able to solve their puzzle. And if not, im sure someone can coach a puzzle completion.QUOTE]


As I have stated before, I have zero chance of getting out of a 5x5 room. Not that I can't use the solver...it's trying to hit just the area 'm aiming for. Not pretty...


:)

Yes! Man, do I "jump like a Cleric" trying to do those puzzles. I finished the 5x5 last time, but it took a loong time.

[Dozen_Black_Roses]

to update on Shakkei: she is now lvl 15 and shroud flagged, I have done one completion on another toon (Gaelsong), hp are 201 and mana is 1389. I still dont know what Im doing fully, but follow directions well :P.

Was thinking it would be good if we brought along some of those dancing ball cakes if anyone has some of them saved up from festival. I have like one or two somewhere amongst my toons.

[Ringos]

Yes! Man, do I "jump like a Cleric" trying to do those puzzles. I finished the 5x5 last time, but it took a loong time.

It get's pretty frustrating at times. If I could get the Trog Stench or something, it would help me stick those landings...anyone got a clickie?

[Uamhas]

That still doesn't answer my question, all it does is address why you think I asked it.
Should the puzzles really be a concern, seems all the names listed for the 2 runs should be able to solve their puzzle. And if not, im sure someone can coach a puzzle completion.



Would be funny to bring the shroud to a halt because no clerics are available.

[lostinjapan]

Yes! Man, do I "jump like a Cleric" trying to do those puzzles. I finished the 5x5 last time, but it took a loong time.

My no-jump-having cleric has +15 jump boots and carries jump clickie (+10) for those times when she really needs it. :p

[Ringos]

My no-jump-having cleric has +15 jump boots and carries jump clickie (+10) for those times when she really needs it. :p

Unfortunately my skills with a mouse rival those of a 14 year old Golden Retriever in a body cast. Even those 3x3s get dicey! :)

[lostinjapan]

Unfortunately my skills with a mouse rival those of a 14 year old Golden Retriever in a body cast. Even those 3x3s get dicey! :)

So practice! Go to your nearest Tavern and practice by jumping from table to table. :) How do you think those of us who are good at it got good? By never standing still...act like you're hyperactive, even if you aren't! :D.

[Music_Man]

This just in... Noobitron will be unable to attend due to conflict with work scheduleing -- this opens a spot for an alternative it would appear.

[Murgatroyd]

Unfortunately my skills with a mouse rival those of a 14 year old Golden Retriever in a body cast. Even those 3x3s get dicey! :)

Go run Rainbows a few times. The spikes below will give you incentive to land on the pillars, but beware of the Cube!!! :D

[Ringos]

Go run Rainbows a few times. The spikes below will give you incentive to land on the pillars, but beware of the Cube!!! :D

Jumping to a table or the platforms you speak of is good practice, and I've jumped around the game more than my share of times. The issue seems to be not letting my big feet step on an adjoining circle. While this is usually my fault for not 'sticking' my landing, a change in camera view or a small hitch (mini-rubberband) when in the air and it's back to the puzzle solver. I wish you could mouse-click on the circles or have your character kneel over the thing and press them. If Ringos really was in that room I'm sure he would just step on them instead of hopping around like a frog! :)


(Beware of the Cube? Hey, that's why they give us Destruction!)

[binnsr]

We may want to hold off on this until they actually fix the lag.. Since they 'fixed' the lag with yesterday's patch, its so bad in there that we had to abort a run last night during the initial pull and clear (and we only pulled one side).

It was so bad that I was standing 30 feet away from the mob of trogs that were beating on my tank -- and folks in party said i was dead when my screen showed me with 150hp still. My stone took a good 90 seconds to drop after my screen finally registered my death. I wish I had thought to turn on fraps before we started..

[Ringos]

We may want to hold off on this until they actually fix the lag.. Since they 'fixed' the lag with yesterday's patch, its so bad in there that we had to abort a run last night during the initial pull and clear (and we only pulled one side).

It was so bad that I was standing 30 feet away from the mob of trogs that were beating on my tank -- and folks in party said i was dead when my screen showed me with 150hp still. My stone took a good 90 seconds to drop after my screen finally registered my death. I wish I had thought to turn on fraps before we started..

Agreed. I threw about 10 Heals and exactly one went. Never seen a potential party wipe within 8 seconds of entering part one! :)

BTW...only had ONE dancing ball up to minimize lag for testing. In lag terms, it was second only to the live event in the Market in my opinion.

[Merkinsal]

Jumping to a table or the platforms you speak of is good practice, and I've jumped around the game more than my share of times. The issue seems to be not letting my big feet step on an adjoining circle. While this is usually my fault for not 'sticking' my landing, a change in camera view or a small hitch (mini-rubberband) when in the air and it's back to the puzzle solver. I wish you could mouse-click on the circles or have your character kneel over the thing and press them. If Ringos really was in that room I'm sure he would just step on them instead of hopping around like a frog! :)


(Beware of the Cube? Hey, that's why they give us Destruction!)

Excuse me if I am butting in but this reminds me of a quesion I had. I've been using this sheet in a pinch and it usually works ok and doesn't require any jumping.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=137970

It always works and agrees with the solver except two 3x3 solutions are reversed. But in practice not always and I am wondering if there is some difference between jumping on and off or jumping on and walking off or something about pushing the buttons I am missing. Of course my problem could be not only can I not jump but also can not walk from button to button lol. Anyway, I have always eventually been able to get out and no jumping involved.

[Coldin]

Here's a little tip if you happen to fat foot a tile you didn't mean to hit. You can just hit it a second time and it will be like you never touched it at all. :)

[moorewr]

Here's a little tip if you happen to fat foot a tile you didn't mean to hit. You can just hit it a second time and it will be like you never touched it at all. :)

Does it cycle while you are standing on it, or do you need to jump up to get it to trigger again?

I wish they were about twice as far apart from each other.

[binnsr]

sadly, you have to jump up and down, or run on/off of them to cycle them again..

[Ringos]

Here's a little tip if you happen to fat foot a tile you didn't mean to hit. You can just hit it a second time and it will be like you never touched it at all. :)

I know, but sometimes I second guess whether I hit it or not. It all gets to be frustrating! :)

Alright, I will look into the tips and tricks of puzzle solving to humor you all, but let's move on. This thread has derailed into a discussion of how a Cleric should jump on a puzzle. At least there has been no need to bump it!

:)

[Sambvca]

We we be memming summon monster / create undead?


I kid, I kid.:)

[adamkatt]

I going to go ahead and take myself off this list for the time being. I would really like to go but as bad as the lag was last night... Ill wait till Turbine really fixes it...

[Ministry]

I going to go ahead and take myself off this list for the time being. I would really like to go but as bad as the lag was last night... Ill wait till Turbine really fixes it...

OMG... I totally agree.

I've been playing my lowbie, because even with the lag, the chances of him dying are less, vs. playing my 16's and having a lag spike and everyone is dead by the mobs who can avoid the lag and do 500 points of damage in one hit.

[adamkatt]

OMG... I totally agree.

I've been playing my lowbie, because even with the lag, the chances of him dying are less, vs. playing my 16's and having a lag spike and everyone is dead by the mobs who can avoid the lag and do 500 points of damage in one hit.


Same here mini. Been sticking to the lowbies atm.

[lostinjapan]

I understand, I'm in the same boat.

Will see how laggy the Shroud is today, if it's too bad to run, we might have to postpone. :(

[caliestro]

i would go but i am going to on a trip. if it is postponed i would bring my ****ed off cleric lvl 16 220 1440

[moorewr]

My post-lag hotfix report..

Shroud 1-3 were 100% fine last night. Part 4 looked fine, but suddenly a bunch of tanks were dead and the clerics were just swearing. Either bad luck or something that went asynchronous.. so, well, yeah. :confused:

[TCSMacar]

Ok, so I dont post here often, and im sure virtually nobody knows my name on the forums, but i have to ask, why is everyone so concerned about the lag here. Trying to do something a little differant, its for teh challenge, its for the fun, and if you're doing it, its probally because you have experience doing the shroud, you have the resources to commit to doing it, but you are afraid of a little lag which you know about in advance and therefore can plan for???

Yes, lag sucks, but even pre-fix when it was at its worse, it was still managable in the fact that you could do it and rarely did people die. And now the lag IS better and virtually gone from its previous state(however worse than before it got bad).

And how about thinking about what causes the lag, i know how it comes to be, what causes it, why it happens, therefore i could prevent most of it.....ever think of that?


Concerned cleric

Moridin



P.S. Sorry for the rant, but when all people ever do is complain...keep it to yourself, stop doing what annoys you, deal with it, or fix it!

[adamkatt]

Ok, so I dont post here often, and im sure virtually nobody knows my name on the forums, but i have to ask, why is everyone so concerned about the lag here. Trying to do something a little differant, its for teh challenge, its for the fun, and if you're doing it, its probally because you have experience doing the shroud, you have the resources to commit to doing it, but you are afraid of a little lag which you know about in advance and therefore can plan for???

Yes, lag sucks, but even pre-fix when it was at its worse, it was still managable in the fact that you could do it and rarely did people die. And now the lag IS better and virtually gone from its previous state(however worse than before it got bad).

And how about thinking about what causes the lag, i know how it comes to be, what causes it, why it happens, therefore i could prevent most of it.....ever think of that?


Concerned cleric

Moridin




P.S. Sorry for the rant, but when all people ever do is complain...keep it to yourself, stop doing what annoys you, deal with it, or fix it!

Well i went in one day after the patch and as soon as we started moving around pt 1 a 20 - 30 sec lag started. Maybe you call that a challenge, i call it unplayable..

[TCSMacar]

well, perhaps part of my rant went off track, no doubt and again i appologize for it, however, if you were to think about it, you can prevent the majority of the lag, and if you can prevent it....whats the problem?

[adamkatt]

well, perhaps part of my rant went off track, no doubt and again i appologize for it, however, if you were to think about it, you can prevent the majority of the lag, and if you can prevent it....whats the problem?

Besides putting up only one dance ball at a time how else can we as players control the lag? Please tell. As far as i can tell before the AI change this was not a problem... We can only wait for the Devs to fix the lag they created.

[lostinjapan]

well, perhaps part of my rant went off track, no doubt and again i appologize for it, however, if you were to think about it, you can prevent the majority of the lag, and if you can prevent it....whats the problem?

::wonders why people complain about people complaining when they are only compiling the complaints:: :confused:

[adamkatt]

::wonders why people complain about people complaining when they are only compiling the complaints:: :confused:


Sorry about the sidetracking Lost.

[lostinjapan]

Sorry about the sidetracking Lost.

I wasn't complaining. :p

[Murgatroyd]

I've been looking forward to this for a week now...we're not going to give up because of the lag? I ran completion on 4/5 of my capped toons and even though there was some lag, none of it was game breaking.

A 2-3 second spike is survivable it would just be terrible timing to have in part 4 though.

We are clerics! We are the best class! Let's do this sh**!! :D

[lostinjapan]

I've been looking forward to this for a week now...we're not going to give up because of the lag? I ran completion on 4/5 of my capped toons and even though there was some lag, none of it was game breaking.

A 2-3 second spike is survivable it would just be terrible timing to have in part 4 though.

We are clerics! We are the best class! Let's do this sh**!! :D

The shroud run is still on. I've got favorable reports on the lag from all quarters.

Anyone who has signed up: If you not know how to do the part 3 puzzle or if you believe you will need help due to your lack of jump skills, PLEASE SPEAK UP NOW so I can prepare for you.

[Ringos]

Besides putting up only one dance ball at a time how else can we as players control the lag? Please tell. As far as i can tell before the AI change this was not a problem... We can only wait for the Devs to fix the lag they created.

We did that a week ago Steele (just one ball, posted above about it) and the lag was still horrible.

Back to the run, good to hear that good reports are filtering in Lost! :)

[Murgatroyd]

Besides putting up only one dance ball at a time how else can we as players control the lag? Please tell. As far as i can tell before the AI change this was not a problem... We can only wait for the Devs to fix the lag they created.

Use Web :D

[Dozen_Black_Roses]

The shroud run is still on. I've got favorable reports on the lag from all quarters.

Anyone who has signed up: If you not know how to do the part 3 puzzle or if you believe you will need help due to your lack of jump skills, PLEASE SPEAK UP NOW so I can prepare for you.

I have the puzzle solver addy loaded for it, I do have concerns about my jumping ability. I have potions, but it is more of accurately jumping from spot to spot to be able to solve it. It was not as easy as I thought when I ran it the other week. I only had a brief period of time, maybe a minute before someone let me out and did it for me. I believe I could have done it, and would love to get more practice at it.

[Uamhas]

I dunno if I'm on a list or an alternate, but I am speakin up about them puzzles. I can do the 3x3, but that's because I actually use logic to solve it. I just can't seem to figger out how to USE the solver, in the first place, so I gave up on it awhile ago... For some reason I feel compelled to push buttons, pull levers, and step on touch-pads just to see what I can find out, so if you don't want me experimenting on anything other than 3x3, best tell me now to sit on my hands.

[Scarsgaard]

I dunno if I'm on a list or an alternate, but I am speakin up about them puzzles. I can do the 3x3, but that's because I actually use logic to solve it. I just can't seem to figger out how to USE the solver, in the first place, so I gave up on it awhile ago... For some reason I feel compelled to push buttons, pull levers, and step on touch-pads just to see what I can find out, so if you don't want me experimenting on anything other than 3x3, best tell me now to sit on my hands.

Oh my... my oh my... reading this almost makes me blush... Tyryryryryrn... you sure ya don't right for PH Letters? :P

[Ringos]

I dunno if I'm on a list or an alternate, but I am speakin up about them puzzles. I can do the 3x3, but that's because I actually use logic to solve it. I just can't seem to figger out how to USE the solver, in the first place, so I gave up on it awhile ago... For some reason I feel compelled to push buttons, pull levers, and step on touch-pads just to see what I can find out, so if you don't want me experimenting on anything other than 3x3, best tell me now to sit on my hands.

I FINALLY figured out that blasted solver after a half a dozen times of trying to use it, and never had a problem since. Those 5x5s just cause me grief since I have to make so many darned jumps, the smaller ones require fewer therefore less chance of me messing up wondering 'did I touch that one or not?'. Then I'm forced to flip back and forth between the browser and DDO, thus making it very slow to complete.

Lost, I will stand aside and let someone else have my slot. The All-Cleric Shroud has a better chance of success if everyone can hold their own. I need to work on getting Ringos' successor up in lvl anyway! :)

[Murgatroyd]

You can't just bow out because you can't do the puzzle. Those chests are optional anyways...worse comes to worse if people get stuck, break the crystals.

This cleric shroud run is about beating the Pit Fiend. People should be psyching themselves for that fight and not worrying about the puzzles. We don't fail if the puzzles aren't done. We fail if we don't kill Harry :)

[Dozen_Black_Roses]

I FINALLY figured out that blasted solver after a half a dozen times of trying to use it, and never had a problem since. Those 5x5s just cause me grief since I have to make so many darned jumps, the smaller ones require fewer therefore less chance of me messing up wondering 'did I touch that one or not?'. Then I'm forced to flip back and forth between the browser and DDO, thus making it very slow to complete.

Lost, I will stand aside and let someone else have my slot. The All-Cleric Shroud has a better chance of success if everyone can hold their own. I need to work on getting Ringos' successor up in lvl anyway! :)

oh sure, squirm your way out of another time we get to group together :P hmmmph

[Scarsgaard]

You can't just bow out because you can't do the puzzle. Those chests are optional anyways...worse comes to worse if people get stuck, break the crystals.

This cleric shroud run is about beating the Pit Fiend. People should be psyching themselves for that fight and not worrying about the puzzles. We don't fail if the puzzles aren't done. We fail if we don't kill Harry :)

well put /bows

[NoctisVisum]

Compasion

L16 Cleric

HP 302
SP 1615

Melee: GCB/Vorpel
Ranged: Transmuting bow (better than nothing)

can solve any room in part 3

can melee portals but would rather heal on the fiend than melee/ranged

Multiple Completions (only 1 time I stayed in past alter) norm and Hard

this sounds like a blast and would love to go if a 3rd fills up (ir some don't show)

[adamkatt]

Welp... Another lag fix patch today.. I will give the shroud a shot tomorrow night or um actually tonight to see if they are REALLY fixing the lag...

[moorewr]

I did the 5x5 the other day - takes a little extra time because I have to reset the solver at least once for missed jumps, but I know I can do it. :)

[binnsr]

Lost - can you please take me (Zhelda) off the list -- I've had something come up for Saturday night and most likely won't be on when the raid starts.

[juniorpfactors]

jrpfactors

14 Cleric 2 Fighter
315 hp
1415sp

30 str unbuffed

67 NO bug!! completions on my toons

***will be around pending MOTHERSDAY festivities***

[Ministry]

I done just been told that Ima gots other plans Saturday night.

My wife doesn't understand my priorities...

Oh well... have a good run all and bring back that pit fiends head as a souvenir.

;)

[Murgatroyd]

Oh well... have a good run all and bring back that pit fiends head as a souvenir.

You mean his large horns? :D

[Ministry]

You mean his large horns? :D

OMG... please... no more horns...

[Uamhas]

Oh my... my oh my... reading this almost makes me blush... Tyryryryryrn... you sure ya don't right for PH Letters? :P

OF COURSE NOT!! Sheesh Scar... I only ever send my submissions to Hustler.


OMG... please... no more horns...

I'll take em. You spell the name U.A.M.H.A.S. Have a nice day.

[lostinjapan]

Okay will be updating the first post in a few hours, need to get my head clear first (been sick - on meds - kinda out of it atm).

I will be re-dividing groups up. Those of you who posted saying you might have trouble with jump in part 3...too bad, you can't weasel out that easy. Will be sending you PMs for suggestions.

PLEASE CHECK THE FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD FOR YOUR GROUP LEADER/MEMBERS AND BE OFF TIMER BEFORE RAID START TIME!

[Bunker]

Remove Kardinal from Group 2.

Reason: Timer

/cheers

[Murgatroyd]

T minus 1 and counting.

Weeeeeeee!

[lostinjapan]

Okay, first post has been updated.

Also, instead of PMing each of you privately...for those of you who have trouble with jumping around on part 3...

1. Get a jump +13 or +15 item, bring it with you and equip it just for your puzzle.
2. Bring jump potions or clickie.
3. Look down. Seriously...change the camera view angle while you are jumping to down. You'll find it much easier to jump and land where you want to.
4. Go practice by jumping around on tables at a tavern.

and remember...those chests are OPTIONAL. If necessary we can just break crystals and get you out. All we care about is beating the fiend. :)

[Merkinsal]

I know I on my lvl 6 cleric will be watching with great anticipation the defeat of the Pit Fiend by the all cleric run. No longer will clerics be considered healbots and nothing more. The battle cleric will rule supreme. Today the Pit Fiend, tommorrow the world! :)

[Weedo]

testing testing 1 2 3

[juniorpfactors]

i hope you non jumpers get 3x3 maybe that will help ya or the circle...if ya get a 4x4 just drag em down

jrp

[Judo]

might not be able to make it...will be limited to laptop and dsl (at 'rents house for mothers day and whatnot)

if it works it works and ill attend, just giving the heads up, also, how come i got the b-squad yo?

[Kraak]

Ardency,
I need to withdraw Sunovkraak/Kraak from the raid. My brother flew in from out of town today (last minute), and I'll be out. Thanks for the invite, putting this together, and GL on the Raid. I'm sure you'll smoke it. Cheers.

Kraak

[yk49]

yes im greedy, two OPTIONAL chests are worth sharing this i guess... practice! (http://www.cat-szeged.hu/gollen/solvers/vale_puzzle.html)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2292/2458041853_c74abff895_o.png

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2028/2453556369_a34573b6c4_o.png

[Shyver]

Something has come up so I have to bow out. Good luck all.

Shyvis

[Sambvca]

Vodka might not make it. I'm sick as a dog, sorry.

[lostinjapan]

NOTICE: Due to the number of cancellations and people telling me to move them to the ALT list, I have narrowed this down to ONE group. If you are not on the main list, I'm sorry...but do please be on at the specified time because there may be a spot for you.

[Paladin20]

NOTICE: Due to the number of cancellations and people telling me to move them to the ALT list, I have narrowed this down to ONE group. If you are not on the main list, I'm sorry...but do please be on at the specified time because there may be a spot for you.

Well, in the unlikely chance that there is a spot for me... I'd like to bring Kaylesa, who is bow specced and has Manyshot and a Holy of Gr Evil Outsider Bow which would help greatly in parts 4-5... either way if there are enough alts, perhaps there could still be 2 groups?

[Higgy]

I'm sorry - yes, there were a couple of cancellations - but we had more alts than we had cancellations, so why change it now? Why not let the groups fill as much as they could and let the leaders decide if they wanted to find other clerics, or combine down to one group? Just seems like you've told 14-17 people "Thanks for signing up weeks in advance, but you're on the Will-Call list..."

A pity - I thought this was a great idea to bring together a whole bunch of folks that may not play together very often...

I take this back - 7:15 and we only have 10 on between group and alts... looks like a whole lot more bailed out.

[Clay]

I do apologize Lostinjapan and all. I miscalculated the timezone change (due to DST). I work until 12 PM and thought that that was perfect timing... but in actuality left me 1hr late.

Sorry all for the inconvenience.

Dam shame, too... I was lookn forward to this.

[moorewr]

How did you do? Inquiring minds and all that!

[lostinjapan]

I take this back - 7:15 and we only have 10 on between group and alts... looks like a whole lot more bailed out.

Exactly.

I have to say a few things...

1) The group did much better than I expected. Not saying anything bad about an all-cleric group...more like I knew I was/am seriously out of it as I've been sick for a week and on meds. Figured I'd die in every part....but I didn't die at all. :p
Part 1: We did fine on the portals (a little slow but fine).
Part 2: We did fine on this part. Had a small spot of trouble with the fire elemental but otherwise seemed like it went fine.
Part 3: All puzzles were solved and the last fountain filled (barely!) before the wall came. We got the extra chests.
Part 4: Had a bit of lag and a death right thru the portal, followed by a few more deaths...however, the biggest problem was the lack of DPS.

We cut our losses in part 4 and took the dim door out.

2) I changed it a short time before start time yes because I could already tell quite a few of the people who had signed up were not going to be there. There are quite a few in that list that I know who all their alts are.

3) Even after removing those people who were courteous enough to let me know ahead of time they couldn't make it because of illness/timer/RL events, we had over 25 people sign up or request to be listed as alts and I -still- had difficulty filling the last 2 spots. This is inexcusable.

If you sign up for something, make the effort to be there or at least have the courtesy to let whoever is organizing know ahead of time that you won't be there.

I'm sorry if I sound peevish about this but I feel it is within my rights to be so. You (the people who signed up and didn't show up without notice) not only inconvenienced me, you inconvenienced the rest of the people who DID show up. It is rude.

I won't be doing this again because I just don't have the patience to deal with people who can't be courteous.

[Paladin20]

I'd like to publicly thank Lostinjapan for organizing and leading this event and honoring her word and showing up despite being sick. Despite not being able to go beyond past part 4, we had many last minute inpromptu spots and for what it was, I thought it went quite well. I appreciate the group accepting my lowbie Archer Cleric at lvl 13, and I must say I had not had that much fun in a long time playing a cleric, that's for sure. Again, thanks for all who participated and made it fun, perhaps someone else might attempt to organize some other event of sorts in the near future. I'm sure one of these days there will be a 100% Cleric party beating this raid, as from what I could observe the trouble spots could be worked on with proper weapons (Vorpals for orthons and the right DPS toys for the fiend, etc).

[moorewr]

Yes, thank you for organizing this. I am sorry I couldn't make it - I could have been there about 75 minutes late, but at least I started out on the ALT list. :(

3.5 parts of the raid is pretty good.. and we should all think about DPS should we get a chance to recap.. your list was spot on - rage clickies and high-plus transmuters are a start.

How many of the clerics had upgraded green steel weapons? Mine does not.. I built a worn item first and am working on the 3rd upgrade for it... I was thinking a lightning weapon might be the way to go.. Divine Power and lightning might actually get Harry to notice you. Let out your inner BC.

[Ringos]

I would like to throw out a 'congrats' to all that grouped for the Shroud on the all-Cleric run. Having been on a couple all-Cleric raids, it's great to get together with other quality folks and see how everyone handles themselves. Great jobputting it together!


As a side Lost, I hope that you aren't angry with me. I didn't want to let my handicap get in the way of completion, so I tried to bow out with several days notice to cause less of an issue. I KNOW that I don't have what it takes to organize something like this, so I'd like to give you props for doing it.

Take care all!

[juniorpfactors]

jrpfactors

14 Cleric 2 Fighter
315 hp
1415sp

30 str unbuffed

67 NO bug!! completions on my toons

***will be around pending MOTHERSDAY festivities***


notice the **** I am sorry I left you guys hanging.... the wife aggro would have been overwelming if i turned DDO on Sat night..I would have been hung by may BaXXs... i know the unmarried dont understand ...but this sat the wife gave me that look that stare ... i wasnt about to sleep in the doghouse....I am offtimer and willing to win it any other time

jrp

[Impaqt]

Congrats on getting as far as you did folks. My Brothers wedding went great... as fun as it would of been to be part of this all cleric raid, RL is my priority.

Lost, As a Person who has organized and run several all cleric raids, I tried to warn you early in the thread about about how many people to expect. THis is a game and stuf gets in the way sometimes. Even with 20+ interested for my Raids in the past, I'm always LFMing the last spot or 2. THats just the way it goes.

[Kraak]

Lost,
Thanks for putting this together. Putting things together like this can be a real pain. Personally, even though I had to back out, I really appreciate your efforts. Thanks.

Kraak

[Murgatroyd]

This is maybe a day late, but thanks Lost.

I had a blast though there were some scary moments. At some points I was wondering if someone was going to take up the mantle of dedicated healer. It's unfortunate that we ddoor'ed out...I was willing to keep fighting. We did have him down to 70% :D

[lostinjapan]

I have been pretty sick the last week+, and much shorter of temper.

I'll probably host another event - just (hopefully) won't get sick right before it happens...or will bow out if it does. When I'm sick I obviously have little patience.

All of you who participated, thank you. I had a fun time even if I couldn't talk well and was slightly delirious.

Next time...think all the clerics should focus on Harm in part IV. I was getting 200+ damage on non-crits for each cast. Or...not sure if anyone tried one of the alignment spells, but maybe those worked as well/better? I did try light spells and they didn't do as much damage as Harm did.

All I know is the melee DPS wasn't enough IMO to justify the healing other clerics were doing...personal opinion here...just what it seemed like from the outside comparing it to when I bring my tempest ranger in there.

Maybe if one of the clerics who were melee could post the numbers they were getting?

[moorewr]

My tactical suggestions...


have everyone melee: even a dreamspitter will do a few points of damage per swing, so hit him!
chug prot. from fire and rage pots
ripple-fire cure, mass. So long as some kind of order was set up (so there isn't wasted healing) there's more than enough mana to get through
if it isn't your turn to cure, mass, cast harm



I sure hope I can make the next one. :)

[lostinjapan]

have everyone melee: even a dreamspitter will do a few points of damage per swing, so hit him!

I have to say...I disagree with this point.

For a cleric to melee effectively, not only do they need strength (for damage), but they need HP. Even with Quicken metamagic feat you need the HP to last between casts. My cleric can hit a whopping 18 strength enraged, and has 260 (unbuffed) HP. Not going to melee and do maybe 5-10 points of damage each swing when she can hit in the two hundreds with each non-crit harm...and stay back out of blades/melee damage at the same time.

[Uamhas]

Thanks again, sugar. This was great fun, and just what I needed at the time. Also, thank you kindly to the Legion crew that did the run right after the cleric raid. Even though it came down so very close, it was still a good time.

[Dozen_Black_Roses]

Yes thanks a bunch I still had a blast regardless of how far we went. And I agree with you, unless you are a true battle cleric, with a high dps strength wise, why melee? I picked up harm because I heard you mention it, I think I only heard one other in the group say they would have it too. Perhaps everyone should have mem'd it and with several of us casting harm, some meleeing, and then a group of dedicated healers, we could fare far better.

Though I still think we need to do another ladies nite run....all gal shroud run? I know Jules had mentioned it a lil while back, and I declined as I hadnt done it at that time except once. Not that I am much further along with four times now, and only one completion lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWjt6LGhHsI

although I enjoy the death of him much better in this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAFQdFQdN1s&feature=related

[Uamhas]

Harm is lovely. Unless there's a particular need for one other spell, I keep that one on my hotbar.