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    Horrible, seems like something a intern came up with at lunch time.

    Let us TR at lvl 4, more bank or inventory space, the cloud mount is kinda cool as long as we get a Orange Gi cosmetic also.

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    They're, according to Anthony Fantano, NOT GOOD rating.

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    Seems meh to me, but at least they have a plan of sorts.

    I still think that allowing us to start TRs at 4 would be simpler, perhaps combined with a little higher xp bonus.
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    I will stay in VIP anyway, so this would just be an extra to me. None of the answers provided are really a fit for me.
    Also, I'm sure these boxes will be for sale in the shop after a while anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dandonk View Post
    I still think that allowing us to start TRs at 4 would be simpler, perhaps combined with a little higher xp bonus.
    I think VIP should be about convenience not skipping actual content. They might as well give us 100 Threads of Fate every month, that would be just as silly. Besides, veteran only means starting with 50k xp which might not be level 4 after a TR anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diracorvus View Post
    None of the answers provided are really a fit for me.
    Choices provided follow a pretty standard pattern for most satisfaction gauging polls. I wanted to adhere to that standard to reduce any influence the labels would have.

    Typically satisfied in this context is meant as "content or happy" and dissatisfied is meant as "not content or happy". Similar to a light bulb being either on or off there is a fair degree of mutual exclusion in the choices in the sense that you either are or are not satisfied. Though I can understand the sense of uncertainty someone might have if they are on the edge between two choices similar to a light bulb being on but dim and someone not being certain if it is on or off.

    You're obviously not obligated to vote, and if you feel strongly that no choice represents your feelings then by all means don't.

    It's my hope that people will vote their true opinion and not "go with the mob" or "show the devs support" or any other ulterior motive beyond their honest take on the VIP perks.

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    I personally voted "Dissatisfied". I do believe it is a step in the right direction and i am glad SSG have finally decided to come up with a proposal. My main concern is this should have been done last year before they turned the daily gold rolls off. So anyone subscribed from January to when they turn these additional VIP Perks on. Have lost value in there VIP Subscription.

    I have a mixed reaction to the rewards proposed. as below

    Month 1 : Probably one of the better perks, but its still meh - I wouldn't resubscribe just for this perk.
    Month 2 : Box of many things - See below
    month 3 : meh - i have lots of character slots (that i bought on the DDO store) so i don't even use the extra ones that come with VIP.
    Month 4 : terrible beyond meh - i'm astounded they have put this as a perk. I think this would still be terrible if it was say 50% reduced item wear. but 10% its absolutely laughable.
    Month 5 : see month 2.
    Month 6 : probably the main reason i would resubscribe - really excited to get this (I tried both seasons to get the bloody footprint reward, but it was beyond my ability to achieve this)
    Month 7 : 10% crafting xp terrible - collectibles can drop special items, might have a use for this, but i wouldn't resubscribe just for this perk.
    Month 8 : see month 2.
    Month 9 : OMG i think this is worse than Month 4 and lets be honest that was pretty bad. I don't think i've ever played a ranged toon were i struggled for ammunition. and again it would be terrible at 50% but 10% is a complete joke
    Month 10 : meh - if i am running with hirelings than im usually running with my expansion hirelings (that is the main reason i bought the ultimate packages so i'd get both heroic and epic hirelings). I actually think this would be bad at 50%
    longer never mind 20%.
    Month 11 : much better items, there are quite a few items i would be interested in (mainly the elixir's, although the discovery doesn't say which one it is i.e. lesser, Greater, Sovereign etc). But again i wouldn't resubscribe just for this perk.
    month 12 : meh - i love the mounts that i have gotten from the expansions - i doubt i would even use this. but until i saw what it looked like i couldn't say either way.

    Box Of many things opinion

    Summon rest shrine - I'm assuming it can be used unlimited times with a 5 minute cooldown (if so its okay). if its a single use only i think its pathetic and meh.
    Feat Swap Crystal - meh - We already have this in game with "hall of the mark" quest. so id be surprised if anyone picked this.
    Sentient Crystal - this is what i would probably pick if i resubscribed.
    pouch of glamerdust - meh - I've never even visited the NPC. (i enjoy using my cosmetics from my expansion packs i bought)
    Mirror of Glamering - meh - I've got quite a few of these from gold rolls and there just taking up inventory space.
    Omnispell Dust - this is my second pick. but to be honest i've got quite a lot of these (that i have built up over the years from chests etc) and i never use them, i just have them in my inv for emergencies, but i'm a stickler for keeping my spell components topped up (at the start of every play session i go visit the NPC and buy all components at maximum). Once I get into Epics, 90% of the time i run in Draconic Incarnation and i pick the enhancements were i dont need components anymore.
    Raid Timers - meh - until they do a server merge (or i move over to Orien) both these items are surplus to requirements as i never see raids open or fill enough to warrant these timers

    So looking at the above, if i am being generous i would probably get 6 perks worth out of the year, but in reality i would really be resubscribing for 2 perks (month 6 (main Reason) and month 11 at an absolute push).

    I'm absolutely amazed that month 4 and month 9 managed to pass the vetting process. When proposing new ideas to customers you have someone in charge to approve or reject proposals. If you get it wrong you can actually insult the customers who you are trying to please. If i was in charge of SSG and was given both of those proposals i would have immediately rejected them and had a stern word with the person who came up with those proposals.

    Hopefully after SSG, have reviewed our opinions on this proposal. They come up with better idea's. I know there has been many threads on this subject and some of our community have come up with some absolutely amazing ideas. Let's hope SSG take these on board and come up with a 2nd more improved draft.

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    I'm very satisfied with VIP as it stands so all of this is gravy.

    4 & 10 seem useless
    9 seems nearly useless.

    That's my feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diracorvus View Post
    I think VIP should be about convenience not skipping actual content.
    Yes, convenience for paying customers and VIPs in DDO is low. Huge storage for VIP would be great. Either way bigger banks or a completely new storage system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqrlmonger View Post
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    What is your source on this?
    That's not lag, it's just DDO trying to become turn-based again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoLionxxx View Post
    What is your source on this?
    Fridays at Four livestream from yesterday.

    Posting important information on the official forums is obviously a Bad Thing for some reason that escapes me at present.
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    They leak info like this in order to gauge player reactions.

    So this poll is fantastic.

    Also, I have my suspicions that these monthly rewards were intentionally comically bad in order to establish a baseline where they can seem like "OMG look how much we improved the rewards due to your responses!" and then we feel all vindicated and satisfied by getting half of the maximum they woud've tolerated giving out. It's a common negotiating tactic.
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    Honestly, the most useful thing to me would be more storage space. Eg: When VIP you get +20 character bank, +50 shared bank and +100 crafting storage spaces (on top of what you already get). These bonuses increase by an additional +1,+2,+10 for each month of VIP you subscribe to.
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    Access to your bank anywhere at anytime is also desirable.

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    I answered dissatisfied simply because there was no increase in bank option anywhere. This is getting close though. Starting at level 4 doesn’t do much for me because I have a ton of stones and start at level 5-7 every life anyway. But maybe others would find that beneficial. Months 4, 9, and 10 should be turned on at month 1- or not at all for all I care. Those months need help. The box of many things needs help as well. Or just make it a legendary raid timer bypass because that is the only thing worth it on the list. If you don’t raid we’ll then…
    There are far more options that would be worthwhile in that box. Suggestions already made in thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelledren View Post
    I answered dissatisfied simply because there was no increase in bank option anywhere. This is getting close though. Starting at level 4 doesn’t do much for me because I have a ton of stones and start at level 5-7 every life anyway.
    The way I view it, starting at 4 would be a bank increase, because I could throw out hundreds of stones that I use for that now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqrlmonger View Post
    Choices provided follow a pretty standard pattern for most satisfaction gauging polls. I wanted to adhere to that standard to reduce any influence the labels would have.
    And that is admirable.

    But I found I can't answer adequately either. I suppose my closest choice would be Dissatisfied but I am also intrigued, both interested and annoyed by their ideas. Enhancement bonuses as VIP perks really? 20% more hireling time, when they already swipe hireling time from us by having them time-down in banks where they are most assuredly NOT in an active adventure zone?

    IDK. Some of it seems out-of-touch. I'd sub for the loyalty-prize cosmetics but having to have an active VIP sub to use them after acquiring them means you're only leasing them, means I won't bother. I have the white lioness for as long as the game continues, that got the whole family to sub for a few months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsotate View Post
    The way I view it, starting at 4 would be a bank increase, because I could throw out hundreds of stones that I use for that now.
    Lol fine- but an additional bank increase, or a couple- 6mo/12 mo should really be a part of this if they want people excited. Also the fact that it is not retroactive- even halfway, is a major miss. If they do not make it retroactive (maybe tech wise they cannot or it’s more difficult) they should offer some kind good will offer for subs longer than 1/5/10/15 year marks. Reward those who despite everything else, supported the company and wanted them to succeed. That would be very cool.
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    The fact that the greater chest of many things is not a monthly reward is pretty crazy. This looks like something that was brainstormed in a day. I will give them credit for the cloud mount, that is cool, but it's not enough. The greater chest isn't even OP and doesn't have things that would disrupt the game balance.

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    Lacklustre.

    Increase VIP XP from 10 -> 20% after 3 months

    Throw in an "old" raid item mid-year

    Throw in a "newish" raid item at end of year

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