Wearing the same gear from 21-29

[QuantumFX]

Can we get some worthwhile intermediary epic gear at some point? Preferably in the 25/26 slot.

It would be great if Epic Gianthold gear got repurposed for this. But, i will say that Mark of Death and Defiler of the Just loot can fit into the gearset of someone who plans ahead with their level 20 gearset.

[Eantarus]

It would be great if Epic Gianthold gear got repurposed for this. But, i will say that Mark of Death and Defiler of the Just loot can fit into the gearset of someone who plans ahead with their level 20 gearset.

Problem is DoJ and MoD are a huge imbalance of effort vs. reward. Both are raids with poor drop rates, so you're talking about months of farming. There needs to me ML25/26 gear that can be farmed in only weeks, not months.

[QuantumFX]

Problem is DoJ and MoD are a huge imbalance of effort vs. reward. Both are raids with poor drop rates, so you're talking about months of farming. There needs to me ML25/26 gear that can be farmed in only weeks, not months.

The droprates are only poor if you look for ways to not run it. Also, I think you're missing the point: There is some good level 26 gear out there, but it's not plentiful.

[droid327]

Counterpoint...do we actually NEED more gear tiers between 21 and 29? Especially since the SSS revamp added a whole suite of relevant ML20 gear, a good L21 gear set is more than adequate to comfortably level from 21-29 at competitive difficulties. Adding in more advanced gear mid-Epic would be pure power creep. And inventory management is already enough of a nightmare - being able to have one-and-done gear sets for ETRing (and two-and-done for ITRing) is a godsend and not something I want to see messed up.

But if you dont want it, then just dont use it...why not add it in for people who do want it still?

Well for one, the problem with power creep is they eventually start balancing content around the creep (or doing things to negate the creep like stat squishes, which are equally unpopular). I'd rather not exacerbate an arms race with mid-Epic mobs

For two, its time they could be spending developing new gear and content at levels that actually need it

[Eantarus]

Counterpoint...do we actually NEED more gear tiers between 21 and 29? Especially since the SSS revamp added a whole suite of relevant ML20 gear, a good L21 gear set is more than adequate to comfortably level from 21-29 at competitive difficulties. Adding in more advanced gear mid-Epic would be pure power creep. And inventory management is already enough of a nightmare - being able to have one-and-done gear sets for ETRing (and two-and-done for ITRing) is a godsend and not something I want to see messed up.

But if you dont want it, then just dont use it...why not add it in for people who do want it still?

Well for one, the problem with power creep is they eventually start balancing content around the creep (or doing things to negate the creep like stat squishes, which are equally unpopular). I'd rather not exacerbate an arms race with mid-Epic mobs

For two, its time they could be spending developing new gear and content at levels that actually need it

Its a question of fun vs. not fun. Gearing is an integral part of DDO and for some one of the most entertaining parts of it. Epics would be more fun if we got to change gear more often like we do in heroics.

[Myranna]

Caught in the Web gear (level 23) can be pretty nice, though the raid is annoying and so is the flagging.

[krimsonrane]

Counterpoint...do we actually NEED more gear tiers between 21 and 29? Especially since the SSS revamp added a whole suite of relevant ML20 gear, a good L21 gear set is more than adequate to comfortably level from 21-29 at competitive difficulties. Adding in more advanced gear mid-Epic would be pure power creep. And inventory management is already enough of a nightmare - being able to have one-and-done gear sets for ETRing (and two-and-done for ITRing) is a godsend and not something I want to see messed up.

But if you dont want it, then just dont use it...why not add it in for people who do want it still?

Well for one, the problem with power creep is they eventually start balancing content around the creep (or doing things to negate the creep like stat squishes, which are equally unpopular). I'd rather not exacerbate an arms race with mid-Epic mobs

For two, its time they could be spending developing new gear and content at levels that actually need it

I'm currently doing all the quests on R10 with guildies. The lack of gear progression is definitely a concerning factor.

[Sam-u-r-eye]

This is why I invested in CC... I have sets from lv 1 (dual-augmented weapon with +2D6 from enchantments and another 2D6 from augments), 4, 9/10, 14/15, 19/20, 24/25, 30/33 to fill all my needs. People often overlook this option. Granted you can miss out on some of the 'set' bonuses but you cover all your bases.

amen

[Amorais]

Casuals like myself have little choice but to use long outlevelled gear as the farming grind - well, you just dont have time.

I often have lvl 20 toons with gear thats still lvl 5. I'm usually still using my lvl 10 Barovian weapon at lvl 28.

Very very very rarely there's non-named gear in a chest thats an upgrade but I would say 99% of the time its left in the chest. I just take gold, gems and guild xp items.

[Oxarhamar]

Counterpoint...do we actually NEED more gear tiers between 21 and 29? Especially since the SSS revamp added a whole suite of relevant ML20 gear, a good L21 gear set is more than adequate to comfortably level from 21-29 at competitive difficulties. Adding in more advanced gear mid-Epic would be pure power creep. And inventory management is already enough of a nightmare - being able to have one-and-done gear sets for ETRing (and two-and-done for ITRing) is a godsend and not something I want to see messed up.

But if you dont want it, then just dont use it...why not add it in for people who do want it still?

Well for one, the problem with power creep is they eventually start balancing content around the creep (or doing things to negate the creep like stat squishes, which are equally unpopular). I'd rather not exacerbate an arms race with mid-Epic mobs

For two, its time they could be spending developing new gear and content at levels that actually need it

That’s great if you want to only use one set of gear from 20 to 29

You can do the same from 1-20 if you like as well

Gear has never been absolutely necessary to advance in DDO like it is in other games no need to exaggerate

It would be healthy for the game to have some gear options mid epic balanced between lvl 20 stuff & legendary

[Diracorvus]

Problem is, the game is already way too easy from 21-29. If you put in even better gear than the sharn sets it's just gonna break. The jump from 29 to 30 is huge. I would rather have a more smooth difficulty curve.