OGL dramma :what do I think of this big mess

[Fenix93]

[ING]

Personally from what I'm seeing and hearing about this big problem with OGL, I think it's just the worst way to start the year with one of the most famous and loved brands of all time D&d, I'm mostly not referring to DDO per se DDO I don't think it will have any problems from this big mess... however it scares me and creates great doubts about the future of the brand per se, creation of new content, video games and other content related to D&d... D&d for me it's a universe full of possibilities that has always made me travel with fantasy and imagination and it's thanks to D&d that I've discovered things like (videogames more than anything else) Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Night's and DDO precisely and the paper board game ( although I've only ever played the board game very little (I've had some experience with it in the past), I hope that anyway this brand won't die and whatever happens WoTC will continue to create new content for D&d and bring new players into this does ntastic universe.it must be said that we are now in an era where capitalism is increasingly evident and its grip is inevitable, it is always frustrating to see that small entrepreneurs, companies or Indy developers are finding it increasingly difficult to establish themselves at times, not always it is easy establish itself as a company nowadays in videogames or other fields, unfortunately if you are not an expert in the sector you do not go very far, however it is disgusting when large companies sometimes try to take other people's ideas without permission and make them into own ideas, without giving any credit to the person who created the original content per se, this is what I understand from this new OGL that Hasbro/WoTC wants to implement, personally I also agree that it is not right and I understand the frustration of many... but on the other hand, going to play other things (Patfinder etc) is not a good excuse to give WoTC a say in changing the OGL, to me it seems more like a whim from b children (or at worst which I think some have done) turn their backs and forget about D&d once and for all without even trying to fight...if these people are true D&d lovers they wouldn't wash their hands and turn away shoulders without looking back... personally, if there's something I don't like, I would fight to the end even if I admit it, it's not always easy to be heard by others and sometimes you could lose hope... however, I think it's anyway it's right to fight then everyone can decide what they like, we are human beings after all and everyone can decide what to do with their life then if you like to play something else that's fine, but it's only right that... in cases like these, if you they change something I don't find it nice to turn away and forget about the years and years spent behind something you love, sometimes this can hurt yes it's true... seeing your game that seems to be dying is sometimes not pleasant, but it's not for this you have to wash get my hands on it and go on, sometimes I love to see videos and updates of games that I haven't played since then via youtube or twitter, but I don't always forget about it and don't think about it anymore, so to conclude, I sincerely hope that eventually end of this story anyway D&d will not die in any way and WoTC will continue to create new content.

[ITA]

Personalmente da quello che vedo e sento su questo grosso problema con l'OGL, penso che questo sia solo il modo peggiore per iniziare l'anno con uno dei marchi più famosi e amati di tutti i tempi D&d, soprattutto non mi riferisco a di per se DDO non credo che avr?* problemi da questo gran casino come ho sentito molti discutere sul forum... tuttavia mi spaventa e ciò potrebbe influire sul futuro del brand di per sé e della creazione di nuovi contenuti, videogiochi e altre cose legate a D&d...
D&d per me è sempre stato un universo pieno di possibilit?* che mi ha sempre fatto viaggiare con la fantasia e l'immaginazione ed è grazie a D&d che ho scoperto (con i videogiochi più che altro) Baldur's Gate e Neverwinter Night's e DDO appunto e il gioco da tavolo cartaceo (anche se ci ho giocato poco al cartaceo in passato), spero che comunque questo marchio non muoia e qualunque cosa accada WoTC continuer?* a creare nuovi moduli e avventure per D&d e portare nuovi giocatori in questo fantastico un iverso.
Va detto però che siamo ormai in un'epoca in cui il capitalismo è sempre più evidente e la sua forte presa è inevitabile, è sempre frustrante vedere che piccoli imprenditori, aziende o sviluppatori Indy a volte fanno sempre più fatica ad affermarsi, non sempre è facile affermarsi come azienda al giorno d'oggi nei videogiochi o in altri campi, purtroppo se non si è esperti del settore non si va molto lontano, tuttavia fa schifo quando a volte le grandi aziende cercano di prendere le idee degli altri senza permesso e trasformarli in proprie idee, senza dare alcun credito alla persona che ha creato il contenuto originale in sé, questo è quello che capisco da questo nuovo OGL che Hasbro/WoTC vuole implementare, personalmente sono anche d'accordo che non è giusto e capisco la frustrazione di molti... ma d'altronde andare a suonare altre cose (Patfinder etc) non è una buona scusa per dare voce a WoTC nel cambiare l'OGL, a me sembra più un capriccio da b i bambini (o nel peggiore dei casi, cosa che penso alcuni abbiano fatto) voltano le spalle e si dimenticano di D&d una volta per tutte senza nemmeno provare a combattere... guardando indietro... personalmente, se c'è qualcosa che non mi piace, lotterei fino alla fine anche se lo ammetto, non è sempre facile farsi ascoltare dagli altri e a volte potresti perdere la speranza... però, penso che sia giusto lottare per qualcosa che si ama ogni tanto... poi ognuno può decidere quello che gli pare, siamo esseri umani in fondo e ognuno della propria vita fa ciò che vuole, ma è giusto che... in casi come questi, se ti cambiano qualcosa non trovo bello voltare le spalle e dimenticare gli anni e gli anni passati dietro a qualcosa che ami, a volte questo può far male sì è vero... vedere il tuo gioco preferito morire e ciò non è piacevole, ma non per questo ci si deve lavasi le mani andare avanti senza più voltarsi indietro, a volte mi piace vedere video e aggiornamenti di giochi a cui non gioco o da molto che non ci gioco tramite youtube o twitter, ma non sempre me ne dimentico e non ci penso più, quindi per concludere, io spero sinceramente che alla fine di questa storia comunque D&d non morir?* in alcun modo e WoTC continuer?* a creare nuovi contenuti.

[Dandonk]

(Combat): You rolled 1 against Wall of Text. You died.

[Mindos]

(Combat): You rolled 1 against Wall of Text. You died.

I saw that monster and just noped right out of this quest.

[Hobgoblin51]

I saw that monster and just noped right out of this quest.

i saw you do that and i shoved dan at it to give me time to recall

[Mindos]

i saw you do that and i shoved dan at it to give me time to recall

Hardcore Season Nine: Forum Edition

[JOTMON]

@WoTC.. What the [expletive] were you thinking..

[merridyan]

sincerely hope that eventually end of this story anyway D&d will not die in any way and WoTC will continue to create new content.

Personally I hope the brand dies, and WoTC/Hasbro lose everything. Evil Corp must go.

[Fenix93]

Personally I hope the brand dies, and WoTC/Hasbro lose everything. Evil Corp must go.

I don't understand if the comment is sarcastic or not... Btw I hope not.. D&d is too big of a brand and I hope it won't die (hopefully).

[merridyan]

I don't understand if the comment is sarcastic or not... Btw I hope not.. D&d is too big of a brand and I hope it won't die (hopefully).

Let me clarify, I hope Hasbro/WotC and their leadership dies (figuratively), and someone that actually cares about the brand takes ownership.

[Fenix93]

Let me clarify, I hope Hasbro/WotC and their leadership dies (figuratively), and someone that actually cares about the brand takes ownership.

I don't know Hasbro/WoTC are still two big companies and it's unlikely that the worst will happen and I don't think this thing is a big deal for Hasbro... I think that somehow they will do everything to try to regain the players' trust.

[Aelonwy]

Personally from what I'm seeing and hearing about this big problem with OGL, I think it's just the worst way to start the year with one of the most famous and loved brands of all time D&d, I'm mostly not referring to DDO per se DDO I don't think it will have any problems from this big mess...

however it scares me and creates great doubts about the future of the brand per se, creation of new content, video games and other content related to D&d ...

D&d for me it's a universe full of possibilities that has always made me travel with fantasy and imagination and it's thanks to D&d that I've discovered things like (videogames more than anything else) Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Night's and DDO precisely and the paper board game ( although I've only ever played the board game very little, I've had some experience with it in the past). I hope that anyway this brand won't die and whatever happens WoTC will continue to create new content for D&d and bring new players into this fantastic universe.

It must be said that we are now in an era where capitalism is increasingly evident and its grip is inevitable. It is always frustrating to see that small entrepreneurs, companies or Indy developers are finding it increasingly difficult to establish themselves at times, not always it is easy establish itself as a company nowadays in videogames or other fields. Unfortunately if you are not an expert in the sector you do not go very far, however it is disgusting when large companies sometimes try to take other people's ideas without permission and try to own those ideas, without giving any credit to the person who created the original content per se. This is what I understand from this new OGL that Hasbro/WoTC wants to implement.

Personally I also agree that it is not right and I understand the frustration of many... but on the other hand, going to play other things (Patfinder etc) is not a good excuse to give WoTC a say in changing the OGL, to me it seems more like a whim from b children (or at worst which I think some have done) turn their backs and forget about D&d once and for all without even trying to fight...if these people are true D&d lovers they wouldn't wash their hands and turn away shoulders without looking back...

Personally, if there's something I don't like, I would fight to the end even if I admit it, it's not always easy to be heard by others and sometimes you could lose hope... however, I think it's anyway it's right to fight then everyone can decide what they like, we are human beings after all and everyone can decide what to do with their life. Then if you like to play something else that's fine, but it's only right that... in cases like these, if they change something I don't find it nice to turn away and forget about the years and years spent behind something you love. Sometimes this can hurt yes it's true... seeing your game that seems to be dying is sometimes not pleasant, but it's not for this you have to wash get my hands on it and go on. (I'm sorry I'm not sure what this sentence is supposed to be saying so I don't know how to adjust it for clarity.)

Sometimes I love to see videos and updates of games that I haven't played since then via youtube or twitter, but I don't always forget about it and don't think about it anymore, so to conclude, I sincerely hope that eventually end of this story anyway D&d will not die in any way and WoTC will continue to create new content.

I did not edit this to be the grammar police, in fact there are still some grammar errors. I only adjusted it to make it more easy to read and/or parse for others. I agree with many of the OP's sentiments. I will be really surprised if WotC manages to steal other people's creative works by retroactively changing the licensing. (Using the common car example) Basically it would be like Toyota telling people they can enter the factory and make whatever they wanted, its theirs. And then a few years later saying they changed their mind Vader-like, coming by and taking all the successful car designs and the cars themselves, selling new cars made by those designs then telling the people that created them to go pound sound and by the way they have to buy their own car back. Wouldn't that be against labor laws somewhere if not against intellectual property rights?

[Fenix93]

I did not edit this to be the grammar police, in fact there are still some grammar errors. I only adjusted it to make it more easy to read and/or parse for others. I agree with many of the OP's sentiments. I will be really surprised if WotC manages to steal other people's creative works by retroactively changing the licensing. (Using the common car example) Basically it would be like Toyota telling people they can enter the factory and make whatever they wanted, its theirs. And then a few years later saying they changed their mind Vader-like, coming by and taking all the successful car designs and the cars themselves, selling new cars made by those designs then telling the people that created them to go pound sound and by the way they have to buy their own car back. Wouldn't that be against labor laws somewhere if not against intellectual property rights?

So can you help me fix it? I admit I really care about this speech because let's be honest D&d made the history of RPGs in general not only of the TTG, so if you give me a hand to correct I would be happy, so everyone will understand.

[Mindos]

So can you help me fix it? I admit I really care about this speech because let's be honest D&d made the history of RPGs in general not only of the TTG, so if you give me a hand to correct I would be happy, so everyone will understand.

Perché non scrivere in italiano e farci tradurre? Forse più del tuo sentimento sara preservato.

[Fenix93]

Perché non scrivere in italiano e farci tradurre? Forse più del tuo sentimento sara preservato.

Sometimes in some forums it is mandatory to use a certain language rather than another, usually I have always translated everything I write with google transalte but I think google is starting to lose hits and it doesn't let me translate things well.

[Fenix93]

Perché non scrivere in italiano e farci tradurre? Forse più del tuo sentimento sara preservato.

Ok anche se forse non verrò preso sul serio o non ascoltato, ho seguito il consiglio e aggiornato il post con la traduzione in italiano.