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    Default You Really Borked Things Up This Time

    Takes 30-60 seconds to move an item from the bank to a character and vv.
    Repeated cleaning up old connection problems. Have to log on to multiple servers to clear it out.
    Crazy continuous packet loss.

    Why fix the TR bug IF HALF OF US CANNOT ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME effectively?

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    oh no this?

    There have been several far more boiked up updates
    than this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherpirate View Post
    There have been several far more boiked up updates
    than this.
    I agree.

    But that's not a good thing. That just speaks to how many low points we've had, sadly.

    Edit: Just to be perfectly clear, that there have been worse updates doesn't justify this one being as bad as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherpirate View Post
    oh no this?

    There have been several far more boiked up updates
    than this.
    Just like that, poor game performance justified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherpirate View Post
    oh no this?

    There have been several far more boiked up updates
    than this.
    Are you saying we should have complained less about this one or more about those other ones?
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    no ... I just stated the obvious that there has been worse in
    the past.

    Does that imply that I am saying bugs are good ? no
    Does that imply that is could have been a lot worse ? >>>>>>>> YES <<<<<<<<<

    If you looking for perfection, your life will be
    filled with disappointment. I do not see the world
    in black and white, I see a lot of different greys out there
    and this one is not quite as grey as others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherpirate View Post
    no ... I just stated the obvious that there has been worse in
    the past.

    Does that imply that I am saying bugs are good ? no
    Does that imply that is could have been a lot worse ? >>>>>>>> YES <<<<<<<<<

    If you looking for perfection, your life will be
    filled with disappointment. I do not see the world
    in black and white, I see a lot of different greys out there
    and this one is not quite as grey as others.
    No, no, hold on.

    Basically there wasn't any point at all to what you said, just a tautology as you admitted.

    As for "looking for perfection", that's a very basic fallacy of strawmanning what's being discussed here, same as "seeing the world black and white".

    With this mindset any complaint could be either dismissed as "looking for perfection" or "we've had worse".

    Do you see the error of your ways?
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    Agreed.

    Most of this update has been Amateur Hour, excluding the new archetypes which are well designed.

    - bank bugs
    - bank performance
    - bank lacking in spit and polish
    - releasing too early without proper testing
    - hiding behind a ‘bug fix’ for the sonic blast nerf
    - Nerfing FVS sound AoV cores without adding anything in return - they are terrible now
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherpirate View Post
    If you looking for perfection, your life will be
    filled with disappointment.
    Sure, I'll go along with that. Don't expect too much and you won't be let down.

    Anyone that's been playing this game for a while knows that new releases are going to have bugs, something will get shut down, and the hotfixes will get rolled out. This is what we have come to expect.

    I think the idea here is that some of us would like to see DDO step up its game with a quality release containing minimal issues. What a pleasant surprise that would be, yeah?

    When your bad reputation precedes you, I'm not so sure that's something to be proud of. I can't speak for anyone else, but the reason I am still playing this game after 10 years is because I hold out hope that SSG will turn the corner and turn a good game into something great.

    Step up, SSG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherpirate View Post
    no ... I just stated the obvious that there has been worse in
    the past.

    Does that imply that I am saying bugs are good ? no
    Does that imply that is could have been a lot worse ? >>>>>>>> YES <<<<<<<<<

    If you looking for perfection, your life will be
    filled with disappointment. I do not see the world
    in black and white, I see a lot of different greys out there
    and this one is not quite as grey as others.
    Thanks for YOUR perspective. I have read posts of yours that are contradictory however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherpirate View Post
    no ... I just stated the obvious that there has been worse in
    the past.

    Does that imply that I am saying bugs are good ? no
    Does that imply that is could have been a lot worse ? >>>>>>>> YES <<<<<<<<<

    If you looking for perfection, your life will be
    filled with disappointment. I do not see the world
    in black and white, I see a lot of different greys out there
    and this one is not quite as grey as others.
    Can't say I have ever seen banal life lessons in relation to game bugs. Kudos!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherpirate View Post
    oh no this?

    There have been several far more boiked up updates
    than this.
    having other updates that had their own problems doesn’t erase this updates problems

    YW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandonk View Post
    I agree.

    But that's not a good thing. That just speaks to how many low points we've had, sadly.

    Edit: Just to be perfectly clear, that there have been worse updates doesn't justify this one being as bad as it is.
    I know, right? That's setting the bar so low it becomes a tripping hazard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelonwy View Post
    I know, right? That's setting the bar so low it becomes a tripping hazard.
    Hah, yeah. Or perhaps the bar is then more of a hazard for the moles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OfElectricMen View Post
    Takes 30-60 seconds to move an item from the bank to a character and vv.
    Repeated cleaning up old connection problems. Have to log on to multiple servers to clear it out.
    Crazy continuous packet loss.

    Why fix the TR bug IF HALF OF US CANNOT ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME effectively?
    Well i feel i must post dont care at this point where this belongs ..........Ssg take notice people are upset and some are outright ****ed based on morale in guild / discord chat i know i know they dont care ........honestly it has me looking at other games that portions of the guild are talking about going to

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