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    Question Fabricators Guild Tutorial Quest Broken?

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Fabricators_Guild_Tutorial

    I've done:

    6. Deconstruct the Quarterstaff...

    twice (the first time it did remove Halfling Bane) and the Maker still just tells me to go deconstruct the staff... It's like he doesn't know I did it. he does have a chalice and checkmark over his head if that makes a difference.

    Any ideas? I can't abandon and restart either :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by TacRedline View Post
    http://ddowiki.com/page/Fabricators_Guild_Tutorial

    I've done:

    6. Deconstruct the Quarterstaff...

    twice (the first time it did remove Halfling Bane) and the Maker still just tells me to go deconstruct the staff... It's like he doesn't know I did it. he does have a chalice and checkmark over his head if that makes a difference.

    Any ideas? I can't abandon and restart either :/
    The quest guy can only see the materials if they are in your inventory. If you turned on autocollect on your ingredients bag, well, he can't see them and can't tell that you completed that step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenicis View Post
    The quest guy can only see the materials if they are in your inventory. If you turned on autocollect on your ingredients bag, well, he can't see them and can't tell that you completed that step.
    Ok I turned off the Auto gather and tried a 3rd time but nothing was created since the staff was already deconstructed. Do I need to use another magic item to get him to see the process?

    (I just removed the crafting items when I purchased them since I didn't think created items would autogather)

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    I tried this again on a +2 unholy bastard sword after turning off all auto gathers in all my bags.

    It did not change anything. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by TacRedline View Post
    Ok I turned off the Auto gather and tried a 3rd time but nothing was created since the staff was already deconstructed. Do I need to use another magic item to get him to see the process?

    (I just removed the crafting items when I purchased them since I didn't think created items would autogather)
    All you should have to do is pull the essences out of the bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenicis View Post
    All you should have to do is pull the essences out of the bag.
    I did. Still nothing. :/

    Will the quest reset if I log out of it for 5 minutes?
    Last edited by TacRedline; 07-26-2017 at 11:11 AM.

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    Default It worked this morning for me

    I did a TR this morning and as always ran the crafting tutorial... It worked fine for me. I do turn off auto gather before I run it. Just letting people know that it is at least not completely broken.
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    This is my support reply - A Bug:

    "The issue you have described has been recorded for review by the In-Game Support team but is not an issue that we can assist with. We recommend that you take a moment to submit a formal bug report at this url: https://help.standingstonegames.com/...form_id=438007 to aid in the research of this issue. Please understand that while bug reports are great for gathering information, bug reports may not be responded to and may not offer an immediate resolution to your issue. - +Doe+"

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    If your description is accurate, it's clear what's happening (and the quest is not "broken")...

    (And in reading the Wiki, the guide was NOT as clear as it should have been - I've given it a once-over, emphasizing points in the quest where this type of confusion is not uncommon - hopefully there's less chance for this sort of thing now.)

    Quote Originally Posted by TacRedline View Post
    I've done:

    6. Deconstruct the Quarterstaff...

    twice (the first time it did remove Halfling Bane)
    Okay, since "deconstruct" can mean either "dissolve" or "disjunct", the confusion is understandable (if no less frustrating, and for all concerned). However, since in this step you're supposed to "dissolve" the quarterstaff, destroying it and gaining essences for it, there is no way you can do it twice. (And you can't "dissolve" an item that has been blanked for crafting, since it is then non-magical.)

    So I'm guessing (hoping) that first you disjuncted ("blanked") it, then you tried to dissolve it (or disjunct it again) and either way nothing happened, so you never made essences.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacRedline View Post
    Ok I turned off the Auto gather and tried a 3rd time but nothing was created since the staff was already deconstructed. Do I need to use another magic item to get him to see the process?
    Again, "deconstructed" is not an accurate term to use here. Either "dissolve" (aka "melt") or "disjunct" (aka "blank").

    At this stage in the tutorial, what Maker is looking for is not a blanked weapon, but some essences in your backpack. So...

    Put some essences there. 1 is enough, but they have to be visible.

    (If you don't have essences, grab any trash item in your inventory, and DISSOLVE that - since they are sold in multiples of x10, you should have ~9 dissolvers remaining.)

    As for the now-blank staff, do with it as you will. I'd toss it, but ymmv.

    (Note - if there are essences visible in inventory - then try stashing the blank staff in your bank (or tossing it lightly into the trash heap). If still nothing, then, yeah, it looks like somehow when you "did it twice" you triggered a bug, sorry.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Dog View Post
    So I'm guessing (hoping) that first you disjuncted ("blanked")


    (Note - if there are essences visible in inventory - then try stashing the blank staff in your bank (or tossing it lightly into the trash heap). If still nothing, then, yeah, it looks like somehow when you "did it twice" you triggered a bug, sorry.)
    Thank you. Yes that's what I did

    *EDIT 3*

    That worked! Thanks!

    I really appreciate all your advice!
    Last edited by TacRedline; 07-26-2017 at 05:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TacRedline View Post
    Thank you... That worked! Thanks!

    I really appreciate all your advice!
    No prob! Glad it worked out!

    And thanks for (indirectly) helping improve the wiki! GL in all!

    o7

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    Default same problem

    i think i did precisely what you describe, but it appears that weapons that produce Cannith Essence won't fix the problem. whatever it is needs to be the same magic as the screwed up mace i guess. sucks man. lame.


    Quote Originally Posted by C-Dog View Post
    If your description is accurate, it's clear what's happening (and the quest is not "broken")...

    (And in reading the Wiki, the guide was NOT as clear as it should have been - I've given it a once-over, emphasizing points in the quest where this type of confusion is not uncommon - hopefully there's less chance for this sort of thing now.)


    Okay, since "deconstruct" can mean either "dissolve" or "disjunct", the confusion is understandable (if no less frustrating, and for all concerned). However, since in this step you're supposed to "dissolve" the quarterstaff, destroying it and gaining essences for it, there is no way you can do it twice. (And you can't "dissolve" an item that has been blanked for crafting, since it is then non-magical.)

    So I'm guessing (hoping) that first you disjuncted ("blanked") it, then you tried to dissolve it (or disjunct it again) and either way nothing happened, so you never made essences.


    Again, "deconstructed" is not an accurate term to use here. Either "dissolve" (aka "melt") or "disjunct" (aka "blank").

    At this stage in the tutorial, what Maker is looking for is not a blanked weapon, but some essences in your backpack. So...

    Put some essences there. 1 is enough, but they have to be visible.

    (If you don't have essences, grab any trash item in your inventory, and DISSOLVE that - since they are sold in multiples of x10, you should have ~9 dissolvers remaining.)

    As for the now-blank staff, do with it as you will. I'd toss it, but ymmv.

    (Note - if there are essences visible in inventory - then try stashing the blank staff in your bank (or tossing it lightly into the trash heap). If still nothing, then, yeah, it looks like somehow when you "did it twice" you triggered a bug, sorry.)

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    I also recently had this problem where I deconstructed instead of dissolved. I ended up moving the deconstructed staff (-1 quarterstaff) to the bank. The quest would not proceed so long as the staff is still in your inventory.

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    Arrow I've messed this one up also.

    I'm not sure why I've gotten tripped up on this. Like twice I have gotten this quest all twisted outta shape. It gets tough to untangle what you've done. GL.
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    Default Simple fix for me

    Quote Originally Posted by TacRedline View Post
    http://ddowiki.com/page/Fabricators_Guild_Tutorial

    I've done:

    6. Deconstruct the Quarterstaff...

    twice (the first time it did remove Halfling Bane) and the Maker still just tells me to go deconstruct the staff... It's like he doesn't know I did it. he does have a chalice and checkmark over his head if that makes a difference.

    Any ideas? I can't abandon and restart either :/
    I did this where I created a blank instead of dissolving the item. (Questgiver instructions are bad.)
    1) Put an essence in your backpack (not in a bag) or dissolve a different item.
    2) Destroy the blank you created.
    3) Return to quest-giver

    Should resolve it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zindalee_Aorath View Post
    I did this where I created a blank instead of dissolving the item. (Questgiver instructions are bad.)
    1) Put an essence in your backpack (not in a bag) or dissolve a different item.
    2) Destroy the blank you created.
    3) Return to quest-giver

    Should resolve it.
    this finally worked for me

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    Altho' this is a Necro*, might as well comment, since it's a reoccuring point of confusion...

    (* when using Search, always read the dates on previous posts before hitting "Reply", folks)

    Quote Originally Posted by Zindalee_Aorath View Post
    I did this where I created a blank instead of dissolving the item. (Questgiver instructions are bad.)
    Questgiver instructions are perfectly correct and clear - he tells you to dissolve the staff, simple. The problem is that the in-game terms "deconstruct", "disjunct" and "dissolve" can easily become confused between themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by caballero86 View Post
    I also recently had this problem where I deconstructed instead of dissolved. I ended up moving the deconstructed staff (-1 quarterstaff) to the bank. The quest would not proceed so long as the staff is still in your inventory.
    The quest giver gives you a "completely useless" magic staff, meant to be dissolved, aka melted. If you still have that staff, or a "blanked" version of it, in your backpack, the tutorial will not advance.

    To advance, you need 1) no evidence of that staff in your pack (destroy it, bank it, sell it, whatever), and 2) at least 1 Essence (NOT in your green bag).

    The quest giver then gives you a semi-generic mace to "blank" and make into a +1 item to complete the tutorial.


    (For any new Players, a CC'd ML 1 weapon is pretty useless, as effects increase significantly at ML 4. So don't get tricky and bother making something else, just make the mace, get the reward, then melt that mace for an essence and wait until at least ML 4 to make a weapon that you'll use.)

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    Default Garbage!!

    Quote Originally Posted by C-Dog View Post
    Altho' this is a Necro*, might as well comment, since it's a reoccuring point of confusion...

    (* when using Search, always read the dates on previous posts before hitting "Reply", folks)


    Questgiver instructions are perfectly correct and clear - he tells you to dissolve the staff, simple. The problem is that the in-game terms "deconstruct", "disjunct" and "dissolve" can easily become confused between themselves.


    The quest giver gives you a "completely useless" magic staff, meant to be dissolved, aka melted. If you still have that staff, or a "blanked" version of it, in your backpack, the tutorial will not advance.

    To advance, you need 1) no evidence of that staff in your pack (destroy it, bank it, sell it, whatever), and 2) at least 1 Essence (NOT in your green bag).

    The quest giver then gives you a semi-generic mace to "blank" and make into a +1 item to complete the tutorial.


    (For any new Players, a CC'd ML 1 weapon is pretty useless, as effects increase significantly at ML 4. So don't get tricky and bother making something else, just make the mace, get the reward, then melt that mace for an essence and wait until at least ML 4 to make a weapon that you'll use.)

    After all these years they still haven't fixed this garbage quest. FFS seriously? Now it's stuck on the Minimum Level 1 Shard portion. I got the effing shard in my inventory and the POS mace and it still says I gotta get the shard.. Eff off.

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