Many Shot feat for Artificer switching to Bow

[xBunny]

Currently playing my first time Arty, it is 12/6/2 Art/Ftr/Pal with int to hit and dmg repeater shooter. So I do have some feats to spare. Was wondering if there is any value in taking Many Shot feat and switching to bows while Fusilade is on cd? Or bow dmg under Many Shot will still be less or equal than just repeaters regular shooting?

[LightBear]

Currently playing my first time Arty, it is 12/6/2 Art/Ftr/Pal with int to hit and dmg repeater shooter. So I do have some feats to spare. Was wondering if there is any value in taking Many Shot feat and switching to bows while Fusilade is on cd? Or bow dmg under Many Shot will still be less or equal than just repeaters regular shooting?

Didn't action boosts like these share a cooldown?

[xBunny]

Didn't action boosts like these share a cooldown?

Have not test it. Many shot does not have number of uses while standard action boosts do, so it makes me think that it should not. And nothing on it on DDO wiki.

[droid327]

Didn't action boosts like these share a cooldown?

Manyshot isnt an action boost...its just an active buff, like 10KS

I think its possible, its just not very practical. You'd have to swap ammo for one, and I'm not sure if it'd do it for you - and that'd mean having to Flame Arrow for ammo. You'd have to prebuff your bow with Deadly Weapons beforehand too, or buff in combat. None of your bonuses from Arti or Kensei will apply to non-crossbows. Your runearm will get unequipped - which means you cant switch if you get caught with a full backpack. Stuff like that. Plus, yeah, bows arent that great so even though it'll be a DPS gain, I dont know if it'll be enough of a DPS gain to warrant the hassle.

A simpler approach, which is possible for your split, is the Endless Fusillade model (at least for Epic) where Legendary Dreadnaught reduces the cooldown on Fusillade to 20 seconds so you can pretty much keep it up full-time, with Extra Action Boost in BE, Kensei, and Dreadnaught so you can chain them together from rest shrine to rest shrine (or just zerg the whole quest for short ones, you'll have nearly 5 minutes of full auto).

Also worth mentioning, you can run that build in Inquisitive just as easily, and enjoy NHBs (which activate instantly unlike EF) and still get Manyshot-like ROF in between.

[Livmo]

Older screenshot, but look at my hot bars. When Endless is on cool down I swap to Manyshot and back and forth. No issues at all if you keep the xbow and bow on your hot bar and hot swap during battle.

[Lonnbeimnech]

the PITA will be switching from bow to xbow, and also switching from arrow to bolt. if you have the wrong ammo selected, you just get an error message rather than automatically switching to an appropriate ammo type.

[Livmo]

the PITA will be switching from bow to xbow, and also switching from arrow to bolt. if you have the wrong ammo selected, you just get an error message rather than automatically switching to an appropriate ammo type.

Not an issue. I use Conjure Bolt and arrows from the General Vendor. When you swap back and forth you have remnants of bolts and arrows to re-combine if you don't use them all.

You only need to swap the xbow and bow on the hot bar. The ammo takes care of itself. I do this all the time, so I don't understand why you get an error message.

[xBunny]

the PITA will be switching from bow to xbow, and also switching from arrow to bolt. if you have the wrong ammo selected, you just get an error message rather than automatically switching to an appropriate ammo type.

Think ammo should switch by default.

Not an issue. I use Conjure Bolt and arrows from the General Vendor. When you swap back and forth you have remnants of bolts and arrows to re-combine if you don't use them all.
You only need to swap the xbow and bow on the hot bar. The ammo takes care of itself. I do this all the time, so I don't understand why you get an error message.

Looks like it should work. But still interesting if DPS is worth it.

A simpler approach, which is possible for your split, is the Endless Fusillade model (at least for Epic) where Legendary Dreadnaught reduces the cooldown on Fusillade to 20 seconds so you can pretty much keep it up full-time, with Extra Action Boost in BE, Kensei, and Dreadnaught so you can chain them together from rest shrine to rest shrine (or just zerg the whole quest for short ones, you'll have nearly 5 minutes of full auto).

Sounds good. One think I don't like is time Endless Fusillade takes to active

[droid327]

One think I don't like is time Endless Fusillade takes to active

Switch to Unarmed, activate EF, switch back to RXB. It'll remove the animation and let you instantly start firing.

Since you were planning on hotswapping weapons anyway, that shouldnt be a big issue for you

[Pilgrim1]

One think I don't like is time Endless Fusillade takes to active

No holds barred and endless fusillade are the same thing. The diffrence people see is from the weapon they tend to use when activating the ability.

When using a greater xbow you get a 2 second windup ability then you have accelerated shots for 18 seconds.

When using a heavy/light xbow (inquisitive style) the boost triggers instantly and lasts for 18 seconds. Then you get 2 seconds of standard shot rate.

[xBunny]

Switch to Unarmed, activate EF, switch back to RXB. It'll remove the animation and let you instantly start firing.

Since you were planning on hotswapping weapons anyway, that shouldnt be a big issue for you

Wow thx for good trick.

[xBunny]

No holds barred and endless fusillade are the same thing. The diffrence people see is from the weapon they tend to use when activating the ability.

When using a greater xbow you get a 2 second windup ability then you have accelerated shots for 18 seconds.

When using a heavy/light xbow (inquisitive style) the boost triggers instantly and lasts for 18 seconds. Then you get 2 seconds of standard shot rate.

Sorry, sounds like rocket science to me. Not sure I get it. U mean heavy/light xbow dont have any time to active compared to repeaters\great xbows?

[droid327]

Sorry, sounds like rocket science to me. Not sure I get it. U mean heavy/light xbow dont have any time to active compared to repeaters\great xbows?

Exactly. Double Xbows activate instantly, no animation, you just start auto-firing immediately. Repeaters activate instantly too (and the timer starts counting down), but there's a long long animation before it lets you actually start firing.