Help tweak my 2hf maul build.

[Pilgrim1]

Hello, I nead some help tweeking and finalizing my 2hf build.

Goals:
High DMG!
Good surviablity!
Do fine shortmaning r1-5 content at lvl 30.

So for a 2hf build (which i have very little experence with) I thougt that going Mauls and silvanus would be the strongest rout.

My current itteration is a uncentered 8 fighter/6pally/6monk.
The 8 fighter is for kensi ~35 AP.
The 6 monk is for bonus feets and 30melee power ~11 AP in hensi mystic.
The 6 pally is for blessing of silvanus for +2 crit range on mauls, saves, and defensive stance ~ 24 AP

This gives me, before epic destinies and levels, 50-70 melee power, 16-20x4 crit profile.
Take the cleave line and thf style. Stats go to str>con>charisma.

Thoughts?

Alterntivly i could go barbarian. I lose the saves from pally, the melee power from monk, and i cant rage in a defensive stance. The build would be 14cleric/6barb for holy sword and all the barb goodies which i know very little about, or 8fighter/6barb/6cleric.

Im leaning to the first one however barb gets extra crit range, more dmg on glancing blows, and supream cleaveage. So im unsure which is the best options for damage and surviablity.

Those of you who have played a build like this please give me advice.
Thanks in advance!

PS. I am open to other 2hf builds, just know I will want to know how they perform in damage and deffence compaired ot this build.

[unbongwah]

The build would be 14cleric/6barb for holy sword and all the barb goodies which i know very little about, or 8fighter/6barb/6cleric.

If you take War Domain for Holy Sword, you lose the ability to cast spells while Raged (Destruction domain). Also the cleric 14 / barb 6 Silvanus split requires an LR +1.

The second split would let you combine Crit Rage (+2 crit range) with Strike w/No Thought (+1 crit multiplier).

[Ladislaio]

Hello, I nead some help tweeking and finalizing my 2hf build.

Goals:
High DMG!
Good surviablity!
Do fine shortmaning r1-5 content at lvl 30.

So for a 2hf build (which i have very little experence with) I thougt that going Mauls and silvanus would be the strongest rout.

My current itteration is a uncentered 8 fighter/6pally/6monk.

I think going Centered with 8/6/6 is the best damage option for your goals.
Given the changes to HSM about to hit, I would suggest giving up monk entirely tho...
14 fighter / 6 [Cleric(animal) if you want HP Paladin if you want saves]
Heavy armor kensi is how I would run a maul build currently tho.

I did 14 clr / 5 fighter / 1 wizard war domain t5 kensi deep gnome maul build recently, it worked ok. Damage was lower than I thin you want, but it was basically unkillable, and if I went t5 in the Warrior Priest tree it *was* unkillable(damage was bad tho, loosing all that MP hurt a lot). I also didn't have the raid maul. I was able to hit about 230 AC, which was surprisingly nice on r1-2.

12 barb / 7 cleric(destruction) / 1 flavor maul build is something I would like to try at some point.
Going iconic Assimar would give you access to racial LoH, which may make the 8 barb/ 6 fighter / 6 cleric (animal or destruciton) uber-crit build playable, but I think that that split is stlictly weaker than the deep kensi builds, as at 8 barb you are getting piddly for melee power.

Hope you are enjoying it!

[Xyfiel]

I should get around to posting my build some day. The last minute of this video has the basics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C6MW5fAFQo&t=5s
That was done with ~80% gear complete.

[Pilgrim1]

I should get around to posting my build some day. The last minute of this video has the basics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C6MW5fAFQo&t=5s
That was done with ~80% gear complete.

Thanks for the link. Where are your hotbars?!

Also everyone seams to go for a centered version of monk, i was thinking of going uncentered. However with the change of the melee power I cant get a easy 30 melee power from monk. Im wondering if I should run something else instead of monk. So is there anything else for 6 lvls that has a bunch of really nice low hanging fruit? Im thinking cleric with animal domain might be solid for the extra HP.

Mmm i wonder how bears will interact with muals. Of course i would have to drop the pally levels in that case.

[Xyfiel]

Thanks for the link. Where are your hotbars?!

Also everyone seams to go for a centered version of monk, i was thinking of going uncentered. However with the change of the melee power I cant get a easy 30 melee power from monk. Im wondering if I should run something else instead of monk. So is there anything else for 6 lvls that has a bunch of really nice low hanging fruit? Im thinking cleric with animal domain might be solid for the extra HP.

Mmm i wonder how bears will interact with muals. Of course i would have to drop the pally levels in that case.

I mouse scroll hotbars. Got a new mouse for xmas and still getting use to its faster scrolling. I mess up and under/over scroll now lol, which can be seen in my recent videos.
I got 6 points in Henshin and don't really have a better place to put them after the nerf. Defender stance was fixed from working with rage effects I heard. When you have 300 melee power boosted -14 isn't going to kill the build.
I stuck with Monk because I wanted evasion and fire stance and Monk was better than Rogue. Epic Reflexes + very high str + reflex saves from str = very seldom take evadable damage.
No idea what non monk will work. I tried other things but none seemed better at the time.

[DrawingGuy]

Before domains existed, Pally was the best option as it came with higher saves and a supplemental heal of Lay on Hands. Now that domains exist, Cleric is one of the strongest way to get Deity feats. The FvS pass may change that, but we'll see.

The build Xyfiel posted is a split I'd suggest - 11 Cleric / 6 Fighter / 3 Monk. Fire Stance, Evasion, 2 feats, and being able to twist A Dance of Flowers is definitely worth it.

I have been thinking about a "max crit profile" build like Ladislaio listed: 8 Barb / 6 Fighter / 6 Cleric. This would get an extra cleave from Supreme Cleave, stronger glancing blow damage, self-healing on kills, and can roll in Heavy Armor. The AP split would be pretty tight wanting 36 Ravager, 27 Frenzy, 12 Kensai, 3/4 Warpriest, leaving only a point or two to move around. The 11/6/3 I would think would still be the stronger build, but is something that could be fun to run.

[Pilgrim1]

Before domains existed, Pally was the best option as it came with higher saves and a supplemental heal of Lay on Hands. Now that domains exist, Cleric is one of the strongest way to get Deity feats. The FvS pass may change that, but we'll see.

The build Xyfiel posted is a split I'd suggest - 11 Cleric / 6 Fighter / 3 Monk. Fire Stance, Evasion, 2 feats, and being able to twist A Dance of Flowers is definitely worth it.

I have been thinking about a "max crit profile" build like Ladislaio listed: 8 Barb / 6 Fighter / 6 Cleric. This would get an extra cleave from Supreme Cleave, stronger glancing blow damage, self-healing on kills, and can roll in Heavy Armor. The AP split would be pretty tight wanting 36 Ravager, 27 Frenzy, 12 Kensai, 3/4 Warpriest, leaving only a point or two to move around. The 11/6/3 I would think would still be the stronger build, but is something that could be fun to run.

Right, so i dont want to play another centered toon. Monk was there for the early melee power and 3 feets. Now with the changes to monk melee power this might not be an option. I want to run with a deffensive stance for bonus hp and deffence. THat means no rage. Barb could still be run or extra cleaveage. Or a verity without the deffensive stance.

I have been thinking about going 8fighter (t5 kensi), 6pally (saves and domain feets), 6 animal domain cleric (160 hp and cheep divine might). I supose i could go with 11 or 12 cleric lvls and drop the pally lvls, picking up deffensive stance from fighter. However that would be a big hit to saves.

Obviously the highest dmg is a fighter/cleric/barb split

[Xugx_quetoxi]

I'm trying out a build that I'm very happy with in heroics so far.

PDK 8 druid, 6 cleric, 6 fighter

Silvanus maul build, winter wolf form, luck domain for Displacement and saves.
Kensai with remaining AP split between Natures Protector and Natures Warrior.

You can wear heavy armor but I plan on going centered for GMoF +1.5W twist and running in Dreadnaught ED when I hit 20.

Chickenplucker, Argo