did racial reincarnation thoughts and improvements being suggested from beginning exp

[Sarge]

The premise of this thread is to recommend improvements at 1-20 levels. I am doing 3 racial reincarnations (1)
for my drow. My drow is primarily a mage with some tanking abilities and thieving abilities. Yes...he's going multi classed and I primarily solo the game. (I should have selected a fighter or paladin later not at 1st or 2nd level). My 1st 3 levels or just being run on elite.

1. Stealthy Repossession Level 2-4; On elite my drow 1 ftr 1 thief 2 mage I am unable to run on elite solo because I can not charm or use sleep on the kobold prophets. No particular school enhancements are selected at level 4. In the interest of not dying or failing this dungeon will ran at level 5. At level 5, the character has +5 spell enhancement weapon. That should allow the character to have a good chance of success when casting sleep or charm person. Invisibility should allow a character to pull switches and open doors without losing invisibility.

2. On Drow: please go back and fix the Drow class to a 36 point build. I love Drow but after 3 racial reincarnations I will not select Drow voluntarily. Drizzt is why I love the Drow but I would not choose Drow in DDO for this prime stat build disadvantage.

3. Please have a harbor store in the harbor with +1 weapons with ghost touch on them so I can start playing reaper mode at low levels. Remove low level minimum use up to level 5. That will encourage more low level game play. Be able to buy a plain item of feather-fall or water-breathing in a harbor store or put in free agent & guild stores. This about convenience rather than need for the last two. This limitation forced me to learn cannith crafting as an alternative.

4. For VIP's, allow them to keep heroic favor when at least racial reincarnating.

5. Fix Sneak: a character should be to open a door without losing sneaking mode. I get when a monster is looking directly at the door that they should be become alarmed.

6. I hate losing my inventory slots! Extremely annoying and irritating!

7. In the guild/free agent/or market stores, please sell +1 mithril chain and mithril plate. At the market place, go back to the old way where a person can buy cure serious wounds potions, rage potions, etc...etc...

8. Swim, Jump, & Balance should be available for every class at the cost of one point a piece as available for any class of character.

9. On Arch-mage enhancement, energy of the scholar should be a point a piece for an increase of 30 spell points per enhancement point used. Instead of 6 enhancements points, a character should select energy of the scholar for 3 enhancement points for a total of 90 spell points.

10. Scroll cases to clear space in inventory. Some type of bag to hold general useless **** for books or items needed to qualify for raids or quests.

11. Cannith Crafing is nice. Tutorials need to be update file 403 or 404 error. Shout out to Gingerspice for his guide to Cannith Crafting. Very helpful and informative!

12. Have a much easier way to get into Ravenloft. Finally discovered that Into the Mists will allow me access to Ravenloft (have not run it yet but will.) DDOwiki helped in that regard.

13. Fix stone of change adamantine ritual (4 lightning split soarwood) i have only managed to attain one item. Make it hard to obtain but not near impossible.

14. The spell Trap a Soul for wizard/sorcerer is level 8 but for warlocks the spell is level 6. Make this spell consistent by being level 6 or level 8 across the board. Now, I would recommend the spell be lowered to level 6 because the only real use of the spell is for Cannith crafting. (Sorry, I never used the spell when I was level 20 as a wizard.)

[Sarge]

The premise of this thread is to recommend improvements at 1-20 levels. I am doing 3 racial reincarnations (1)
for my drow. My drow is primarily a mage with some tanking abilities and thieving abilities. Yes...he's going multiclassed and I primarily solo the game. (I should have selecteed a fighter or paladin later not at 1st or 2nd level). My 1st 3 levels or just being run on elite.

1. Stealthy Repossesion Level 2-4; On elite my drow 1 ftr 1 thief 2 mage I am unable to run on elite solo because I can not charm or use sleep on the kobold prophets. No particular school enhancements are selected at level 4. In the interest of not dying or failing this dungeon will run at level 5. At level 5, the character has +5 spell enhancement weapon. That should allow the character to have a good chance of sucess when casting sleep or charm person.

2. On Drow: please go back and fix the Drow class to a 36 point build. I love Drow but after 3 racial reincarantions I will not select Drow voluntarily. Drizzt is why I love the Drow but I would not choose Drow in DDO for this prime stat build disadvantage.

3. Please have a harbor store in the harbor with +1 weapons with ghost touch on them. Remove low level minimum use up to level 5. That will encourage more low level game play. Be able to buy a plain item of featherfall or waterbreathing in a harbor store or maybe have veteran store.

4. For VIP's, allow them to keep heroic favor when at least racial reincarnating.

[Whitering]

If the VIP favour thing is about bank/inventory space I am under the impression that they are working to improve that, otherwise I disagree. Getting favour gets you TP, maybe not a lot, but every little bit helps over successive TRs, it's one of the good things about TRing.

Otherwise anything to improve the 1-20 is appreciated.

[Yamani]

2. On Drow: please go back and fix the Drow class to a 36 point build. I love Drow but after 3 racial reincarantions I will not select Drow voluntarily. Drizzt is why I love the Drow but I would not choose Drow in DDO for this prime stat build disadvantage.

Drow technically are a 36 point build: They get +2 Dex, Int, Cha and -2 con for starting stats. while other races have different penalties I dont recall any other getting more then a single +2 stat.

[JOTMON]

The premise of this thread is to recommend improvements at 1-20 levels. I am doing 3 racial reincarnations (1)
for my drow. My drow is primarily a mage with some tanking abilities and thieving abilities. Yes...he's going multiclassed and I primarily solo the game. (I should have selecteed a fighter or paladin later not at 1st or 2nd level). My 1st 3 levels or just being run on elite.

1. Stealthy Repossesion Level 2-4; On elite my drow 1 ftr 1 thief 2 mage I am unable to run on elite solo because I can not charm or use sleep on the kobold prophets. No particular school enhancements are selected at level 4. In the interest of not dying or failing this dungeon will ran at level 5. At level 5, the character has +5 spell enhancement weapon. That should allow the character to have a good chance of sucess when casting sleep or charm person.

2. On Drow: please go back and fix the Drow class to a 36 point build. I love Drow but after 3 racial reincarantions I will not select Drow voluntarily. Drizzt is why I love the Drow but I would not choose Drow in DDO for this prime stat build disadvantage.

3. Please have a harbor store in the harbor with +1 weapons with ghost touch on them. Remove low level minimum use up to level 5. That will encourage more low level game play. Be able to buy a plain item of featherfall or waterbreathing in a harbor store or maybe have veteran store.

4. For VIP's, allow them to keep heroic favor when at least racial reincarnating.

1. your casting success will still suck since you are only 2 levels of wiz..
cast invisibility after opening door/gate and run past. keep yourself hasted and stay ahead of the mobs... with some practice you will easily solo run this quest.

2. Meh.. Drow is what it is..
To turn it into a regular class when it starts with a +2 to 3 stats(Dex/Int/Cha) would have to be addressed.

3. They would be better off updating Korthos end reward gear and adding something like a low level ghost touch as a static named item.
Korthos reward loot is [expletive]. and does not meet todays standards for loot.
Feather fall was not meant to be easy to get at low level.. now it drops everywhere..
Water breathing is pointless.. none of the quests actually need it.


4. No. you are starting over.
not resetting would mean no more first time bonuses, no more store points, no more reset of explorers...
The only thing I would like e to see remain is Raid completions.. currently I skip raids while doing any lives that will result in a reincarnation since it is pointless to flag and accumulate the 20th incrementals for raids since they get reset on a TR. many others are doing the same thing, which results in a significant decrease in playable levelling raids... players ignoring content cant be good for the game...

[Selvera]

Drow technically are a 36 point build: They get +2 Dex, Int, Cha and -2 con for starting stats. while other races have different penalties I dont recall any other getting more then a single +2 stat.

Dragonborn blows that argument out of the water. 2 bonuses; their penalty is not to con and they have a better racial tree. Drow and H-orcs could use a small buff compared with other races.

[mikarddo]

The premise of this thread is to recommend improvements at 1-20 levels. I am doing 3 racial reincarnations (1)
for my drow. My drow is primarily a mage with some tanking abilities and thieving abilities. Yes...he's going multiclassed and I primarily solo the game. (I should have selecteed a fighter or paladin later not at 1st or 2nd level). My 1st 3 levels or just being run on elite.

1. Stealthy Repossesion Level 2-4; On elite my drow 1 ftr 1 thief 2 mage I am unable to run on elite solo because I can not charm or use sleep on the kobold prophets. No particular school enhancements are selected at level 4. In the interest of not dying or failing this dungeon will ran at level 5. At level 5, the character has +5 spell enhancement weapon. That should allow the character to have a good chance of sucess when casting sleep or charm person.

2. On Drow: please go back and fix the Drow class to a 36 point build. I love Drow but after 3 racial reincarantions I will not select Drow voluntarily. Drizzt is why I love the Drow but I would not choose Drow in DDO for this prime stat build disadvantage.

3. Please have a harbor store in the harbor with +1 weapons with ghost touch on them. Remove low level minimum use up to level 5. That will encourage more low level game play. Be able to buy a plain item of featherfall or waterbreathing in a harbor store or maybe have veteran store.

4. For VIP's, allow them to keep heroic favor when at least racial reincarnating.

1. I run it at level 2 on R1 even without invis. Just kill the first 3-4 prophets amd then run like hell.
2-3. I am indifferent.
4. Definitely no thanks. I very much want to get first time bonusses again. Why would you want to keep the favor anyway?

[Matuse]

He probably wants to keep favor for the character and bank storage from Coin Lord and House K favor.

Which would be nice, but you're giving up way too much to get it. 3500 favor per life is 875 store points. That's a big chunk.

I also really like getting the large ingredient bags from Twelve favor.

[Jasparion]

He probably wants to keep favor for the character and bank storage from Coin Lord and House K favor.

Which would be nice, but you're giving up way too much to get it. 3500 favor per life is 875 store points. That's a big chunk.

I also really like getting the large ingredient bags from Twelve favor.

I always forget to get the +2 Tome because crafting doesnt interest me. Except when it does and I have a shortage of dragon shards.

[Sarge]

Note: updating 1st post with suggestions

Question about racial reincarnation: when racial reincarnating do I have to be 20th level or can I racial reincanate sooner. I used to be level 20 before racial reincarnating. Is their a way to earn racial reincarntion (heart of wood). I do not want to keep spending money if I do not have to.

[TrinityTurtle]

FYi, Stealthy repossession is soloable with ANY class. Use haste pots, don't fight, just keep chugging pots and run. I do it every life.

[Tom116]

The premise of this thread is to recommend improvements at 1-20 levels. I am doing 3 racial reincarnations (1)
for my drow. My drow is primarily a mage with some tanking abilities and thieving abilities. Yes...he's going multi classed and I primarily solo the game. (I should have selected a fighter or paladin later not at 1st or 2nd level). My 1st 3 levels or just being run on elite.

1. Stealthy Repossession Level 2-4; On elite my drow 1 ftr 1 thief 2 mage I am unable to run on elite solo because I can not charm or use sleep on the kobold prophets. No particular school enhancements are selected at level 4. In the interest of not dying or failing this dungeon will ran at level 5. At level 5, the character has +5 spell enhancement weapon. That should allow the character to have a good chance of success when casting sleep or charm person. Invisibility should allow a character to pull switches and open doors without losing invisibility.

2. On Drow: please go back and fix the Drow class to a 36 point build. I love Drow but after 3 racial reincarnations I will not select Drow voluntarily. Drizzt is why I love the Drow but I would not choose Drow in DDO for this prime stat build disadvantage.

3. Please have a harbor store in the harbor with +1 weapons with ghost touch on them so I can start playing reaper mode at low levels. Remove low level minimum use up to level 5. That will encourage more low level game play. Be able to buy a plain item of feather-fall or water-breathing in a harbor store or put in free agent & guild stores. This about convenience rather than need for the last two.

4. For VIP's, allow them to keep heroic favor when at least racial reincarnating.

5. Fix Sneak: a character should be to open a door without losing sneaking mode. I get when a monster is looking directly at the door that they should be become alarmed.

6. I hate losing my bank! Extremely annoying and irritating!

7. In the guild/free agent/or market stores, please sell +1 mithril chain and mithril plate.

1- If you just push through it on a TR toon it is soloable (haste pots, invis pots, etc) and if not you could try opening an LFM. Stealth is currently not in a good place so even with full ranks you will almost certainly get a full dungeon alert quick in there. Best bet on a non-TR is to get a group of people and run together. 1+ of you will make it to the gem. Do not charm the prophets, if they die to the other kobalds it still counts

2- Agree. Aasimar get +2 Base to Wisdom and a +1 (feat bonus) to another stat PLUS racial LoH (available free with enough racial PL's) with full build points, not to mention the +10% HP stance that stacks with defender. How is that not better than +2 to three stats with a -2 to Con while getting the build point penalty. When they were the only Int/Cha boosting race it was *maybe* worth using them for max DC on casters. Now you're 100% better off doing another race.

3- Not sure if Harbor makes sense, but maybe in Delera's have a Good + Ghost Touch ML2? You should be at 2 by the time you leave Korthos anyways, which has no reaper mode.

4- Tbh, I'd consider that a nerf. Favor earned is TP earned, if you already have it you can't earn it. I guess VIP's already get some free monthly, but I wouldn't want that if I was VIP.

5- Yes!

6- Define "Losing my bank". You mean TRing stuff into the cache? What would happen if you didn't have as much bank space after the TR? House K gives you extra slots

7- They need to fix mithril first (counting as the level of armor it turns into rather than what it should be in PRR), then mithril/adamantine would be great.

[Tom116]

Drow technically are a 36 point build: They get +2 Dex, Int, Cha and -2 con for starting stats. while other races have different penalties I dont recall any other getting more then a single +2 stat.

Aasimar.

They get +2 Wis, and +1 to Str, Con, or Cha (depending on which bond you have) with no negative stats, no build point penalty, racial LoH, and +10% HP stance that stacks with all other defensive stances. I would argue this is much stronger than +2 to Dex, Int, and Cha (what build truly NEEDS points in all 3 stats?), and -2 to Con. In most (if not all) cases I would gladly keep the Con in exchange for one of the other stats. Yes drow have spell resistance, but it was decreased from what it once was and in end-game content it's nearly impossible to achieve a meaningful SR due to the inflated CR system anyways.

In the past drow was a race to consider for casters to achieve max DC in exchange for not being able to repair yourself, but now we have Aasimar for Wis, Dragonborn for Cha, and Gnome for Int. The only time I would use drow would be for a shuricannon build for the shuriken benefits and racial poison, or to get the racial PL's since one of the few worthwhile skill bonuses are on Drow with the +1 to Search.

[Sarge]

Just to set the record straight, I beat Stealthy Repossession on elite. However, I like to clear the board or play the stealth route. I am unable to use stealth or invisibility to accomplish the mission which seriously aggrevates me because they took a style of play away from the players. A person use to be able to clear this board using stealth only...not anymore.

[Sarge]

When can I iconic reincarnate?

Can I do reincarnation at 1st level because I am racial reincarnating this character 3x's as drow?

At the start of my 3rd racial reincarnation can I then iconic reincarnate as a sun elf.

How many times does sun elf reincarnation stack? (3x's according to ddowiki)

[Hobgoblin]

When can I iconic reincarnate?

Can I do reincarnation at 1st level because I am racial reincarnating this character 3x's as drow?

At the start of my 3rd racial reincarnation can I then iconic reincarnate as a sun elf.

How many times does sun elf reincarnation stack?

you can reincarnate at 20.

instead of picking drow or dorf or what have you you pick shun elf.

but the drawback to that is you have to go to 30 to reincarnate again.


and i didnt see if your question about the hearts was answered, so you can earn it in game. you need either 20 epic tokens or you can get one from 42 heart seeds. also you get 2 per quest if you are not ransacked and are at cap. you get 1 heart seed from every 100 commendations of valor which you earn from evenging start quests

hope that helps

[Tom116]

When can I iconic reincarnate?

Can I do reincarnation at 1st level because I am racial reincarnating this character 3x's as drow?

At the start of my 3rd racial reincarnation can I then iconic reincarnate as a sun elf.

How many times does sun elf reincarnation stack? (3x's according to ddowiki)

Iconic Reincarnations are available only at level cap. Keep in mind these are used when you are capped out as an Iconic Hero, NOT when reincarnating into an Iconic Hero, unless your current life is also Iconic.

It depends on which type of reincarnation you mean, but the only kind of reincarnation you can do at level 1 is a Lesser Reincarnation. To racial reincarnate, you need to be at least level 20. This process drops you to level 1 (or 15 if turning into an iconic hero) and gives you a Racial Past Life.

If you are Racial Reincarnating from your 3rd drow past life, you may reincarnate as a sun elf. However, this would be a Racial Reincarnation because you are taking a Drow Past Life. You only need to Iconic Reincarnate if you are currently an Iconic Hero.

All past lives stack up to three times, both the passives and the stances from Iconic and Epic past lives. Keep in mind though, that you can have only 1 active iconic stance at any time, and only 1 epic past life stance per sphere from any time. The passives all stack though

[Sarge]

When I racial reincarnated, I seem to have lost my bank(s) for my other characters. Three for fact lost their banks and I think I purchased banks for the fourth. He's only 5th level so no big deal either way on the last character slot. I think I am just screwed either way because I did not keep the email receipts and did not take screenshots of my characters.

[Tom116]

When I racial reincarnated, I seem to have lost my bank(s) for my other characters. Three for fact lost their banks and I think I purchased banks for the fourth. He's only 5th level so no big deal either way on the last character slot. I think I am just screwed either way because I did not keep the email receipts and did not take screenshots of my characters.

You mean you lost the bank for your other characters when you reincarnated your other characters? Or that all the banks went away when you reincarnated one character in particular?

It is normal for the favored earned (House K) bank space and Inv Space (Coin Lords) to go away when you reincarnate (except for Epic Reincarnate, this acts more or less like a lesser Reincarnation) a character. However, store purchased bank space should NOT be disappearing, nor should bank space be disappearing from other characters when you reincarnate one.

With racial reincarnating being relatively new, and the bugs that have been tied to reincarnating in the past, I could definitely see something like this happening. It did take several years to fix* the magical disappearing items when you TR. I would submit a report; they should have records of you purchasing bank space in their store.


*Largely decrease the chance by overwriting some code, but some people still claim it happens on occasion. Anyone who didn't screenshot what they lost was out of luck.

[Sarge]

For those of you thinking of doing or going to do reincarnating racial past lives, start colllecting equipment now. I can not tell you how many times that I collected equipment that was lattered sold but I need now at this current level or previous levels. For instance, running a House K quest and the final boss could not be beaten on reaper level because my character did not have any fire resistant items for the fire elemental and boss kept debuffing the character. The sad part is my character had just passed on an improve fire resistance cloak as a end reward. (My greater fire resistant cloaks is a higher level than I can currently use.) The reader gets the point in that regard.

I started running in PUG's. Normally, I put running on reaper clearing dungeon in the description. The reason I started doing this is because on the super great and experienced players they just run through the dungeons so quick. I like to collect all the xp that my character can collect as well as all chests. My character is a rogue mage and I like to clear the dungeon of traps and open all chests. That just helps maximize xp. Now, if anyone has any suggestions on building a character that can fight/heal/disarm traps/& pick locks let me know. (Next, race I will choose WAR Forged.) The reason is I am choosing guild rewards because I am in a very small guild and I am trying to take guild rewards at the end of quests. I have personally earned the guild a little over 100,000 guild points out of 700,000 guild points.

Cannith crafting will help in the regard to creating gear that my character can use.