Necro Wizard Sentient Weapons thoughts

[goldgolem]

http://m.ddowiki.com/page/Sentient_Weapon
http://m.ddowiki.com/page/Sentient_Weapon/Filigrees

Items
It doenst seem like orbs will work with sentient weapons, which means there are few good fits for necro casters

The best and only thing I can find is this staff http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Staff_of_the_Necromancer

http://ddowiki.com/page/Category:Necromancy_Focus_items
http://ddowiki.com/page/Category:Ins...cy_Focus_items

Filigrees
I am thinking all 4 pieces of The Inevitable Grave, and then either just slotting 3 more pure INT pieces, or 3 piece INT, CON, SP from Ottos Irrevocable Power

4 pieces of Eye of the Beholder also seems a decent alternative with the +2DC being across all spells, then could add pieces of either Inevitable grave or Ottos

What are you planning?

[SirValentine]

Beholder 4-piece set is the initial goal, to be eventually rounded out by 3 extra +1 Int. Nothing in the Grave set looks compelling, and +2 to all DCs is obviously better than +2 to just Necro.

As for weapon, probably this:

Macabre/Nightmother's Sceptre

Damage Dice: 1.5(1d6)/5(1d6+2)
Crit Profile: Normal Crit Profile for Weapon type

• Spell Focus Mastery 2/7
• Insightful Spell Focus Mastery 1/4
• Spell Penetration 3/8
• Insightful Spell Penetration 2/4
• Orange Augment Slot

Yes, it's ML 29. But 20-28 is easy enough already without Sentient bonus. And even if it's OK 20-25, there's no ML 20-21 weapon, that, even with Sentient bonus, is still competitive/useful level 26+ compared to other options.

[goldgolem]

Sickle looks decent. I like the main hand off hand split mechanic

(When in Main-Hand) The Night Below, (When in Off Hand) The Light Above Raid Sickle
Damage Dice: 5(1d6+3)
Crit Profile: 20/x2
(When in Main-Hand) Nullification +208, (When in Off Hand) Devotion +208
(When in Main-Hand) Insightful Nullification +104, (When in Off Hand) Insightful Devotion +104
(When in Main-Hand) Void Lore +30%, (When in Off Hand) Healing Lore +30%
(When in Main-Hand) Insightful Necromancy Focus +4, (When in Off Hand) Efficient Metamagic - Empower Healing II
Orange Augment Slot
Red Augment Slot


although its really weird that the unique spell items have the same bonus as the general spell items Why bother with +4 necro when you can get +4 everything

[slarden]

I was looking at 4 piece otto's irresistible followed by 3 +1 int assuming it all stacks. I am still not sure how these bonuses work. I was also looking at putting in Macabre/Nightmother's Sceptre. With the current items and bonuses available it makes so much sense to max out main stat and universal DC bonuses.

[goldgolem]

Since the DCs apparently do not stack, might be better to just try get 7 int points on it

[SirValentine]

Since the DCs apparently do not stack, might be better to just try get 7 int points on it

I guess I've missed something. What do the DCs not stack with?

[slarden]

I guess I've missed something. What do the DCs not stack with?

I have an otto's 4 piece set with charisma + 3 extra charisma and I am getting +2 dc from the set bonus. It stacks with augments, standard item bonus, insightful bonus, quality bonus. If there is something it doesn't stack with I don't have it. It stacks with everything listed in the DC for the warlock build in my sig.

[goldgolem]

I was referring to this. Maybe its fixed or that wasnt actually the case https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...agic-Set-Bonus

Its hard to know whats intentional and whats a bug at the moment

[cru121]

I was referring to this. Maybe its fixed or that wasnt actually the case https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...agic-Set-Bonus

Its hard to know whats intentional and whats a bug at the moment

said thread is about Beacon of Magic set granting artifact bonus to spell DCs (same as slavers set)
not about filigrees.

[SuperNiCd]

http://m.ddowiki.com/page/Sentient_Weapon
http://m.ddowiki.com/page/Sentient_Weapon/Filigrees

Items
It doenst seem like orbs will work with sentient weapons, which means there are few good fits for necro casters

The best and only thing I can find is this staff http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Staff_of_the_Necromancer

http://ddowiki.com/page/Category:Necromancy_Focus_items
http://ddowiki.com/page/Category:Ins...cy_Focus_items

Filigrees
I am thinking all 4 pieces of The Inevitable Grave, and then either just slotting 3 more pure INT pieces, or 3 piece INT, CON, SP from Ottos Irrevocable Power

4 pieces of Eye of the Beholder also seems a decent alternative with the +2DC being across all spells, then could add pieces of either Inevitable grave or Ottos

What are you planning?

Gave some serious thought to the Staff of the Necromancer, but outside of the lesser arcane spell aug it doesn't bring much to the table that's not already bested by crafted gear, plus it's a 2 hander. The Morninglord scepter also looks like a good choice but I'm not spending much time at cap right now, so ML29 is out.

Ended up with a Blade of the High Priestess and started on the Inevitable Grave path for now. Not a great fit for base weapon, but I guess swinging it a couple of times can result in a nice debuff for a lot of necro & enchantment spells. The instakill proc rate on it seems to me to be in the 2-5% range (purely empirical observation). The paralysis hits a lot more often than I thought it would too. I just swing it at trash mobs sometimes when SLAs are on cooldown. Anyway, just the best placeholder I could find for now. Still searching.

Considered trying to get a Staff of Arcane Power but that looks like a hard, hard farm. Not sure it would be worth it.

Also Twilight, Element of Magic fully upgraded with all the attunded to heroism tiers coupled with the planar conflux seems like a pretty good choice. That might actually make it worth equipping a staff...

[ChemE]

When I added a prowess strength fillagree to ESOS the strength didn't stack at all. is this the case? It did not improve my strength score at all.

[Arkat]

When I added a prowess strength fillagree to ESOS the strength didn't stack at all. is this the case? It did not improve my strength score at all.

Which STR filigrees, exactly, did you add?

If you added more than one Prowess STR filigree, they will not stack with each other.

However, if you added a Prowess STR filigree with a STR filigree from a different set (Example: The Blood Feast), they are supposed to stack.

[ChemE]

Which STR filigrees, exactly, did you add?

If you added more than one Prowess STR filigree, they will not stack with each other.

However, if you added a Prowess STR filigree with a STR filigree from a different set (Example: The Blood Feast), they are supposed to stack.

I only added one fillagree, Prowess strength and it did not change my strength number at all.

[Arkat]

I only added one fillagree, Prowess strength and it did not change my strength number at all.

Hmmm...file a bug report.

[noinfo]

Beholder 4-piece set is the initial goal, to be eventually rounded out by 3 extra +1 Int. Nothing in the Grave set looks compelling, and +2 to all DCs is obviously better than +2 to just Necro.

As for weapon, probably this:



Yes, it's ML 29. But 20-28 is easy enough already without Sentient bonus. And even if it's OK 20-25, there's no ML 20-21 weapon, that, even with Sentient bonus, is still competitive/useful level 26+ compared to other options.

This item with 4 piece ottos for spell points and 3 int beholders is ok if you want a bit more spell pen instead, depending on how u stat 7 int is ok and will likely give more reflex save as well but will be 1 virtual int down on 4 +3 set up.

[ChemE]

Hmmm...file a bug report.

Ok, so filliagree ability points are supposed to stack with everything else?

[slarden]

Ok, so filliagree ability points are supposed to stack with everything else?

yes except for the same filigree. So two different strength filigree will stack with everything, but if you slot two of the exact same you get only +1.

[mr420247]

Final wiz life i'd def go 18wiz2monk gnome

Probly sw the raid shortsword for pks w 4 beholder 3 int rare set

LGS off hand for mastery of forms and max dodge 40 ish