Theory Crafting Vistani SWF

[SpartanKiller13]

After spending dozens of hours working on any single or combination of recent new things to try out I just did a TR into a Aasimar 15Druid/4Monk/1Fvs. I have a bunch of builds for later but I needed to hit 30 and refill primal sphere this life. The build will use Vistani capstone, Fallen form from Aasimar, twf daggers but swap to wraps for stunning fist or piercing resistant. Primal Avatar for +7 wisdom and twf column.

Wisdom should hit 90. Dex secondary(hit/damage).

AP split: 43 Vistani, 19 Aasimar, 8 Henshin, 9 Ninja, 1 Shintao

I have not calculated what hp/sps/spell power/prr/etc. would be. Mainly just leveling it and seeing how it works for now. All I did so far was TR and get some items from bank, off to start questing. If anyone wants an update later let me know.

First of all, thanks for posting. Second, did you read the title?

Anyway, all I can think is why take Monk 4 over FvS 2? 15/3/2 split would give you Wis to-hit and damage (Knowledge of Battle), and all it costs you is 2% Dodge (which you probably have capped anyway). Even Druid 16 would give you an additional 8th level spell if you want it. You're not taking T4's so it won't block any AP spending.

[FuryFlash]

First of all, thanks for posting. Second, did you read the title?

Anyway, all I can think is why take Monk 4 over FvS 2? 15/3/2 split would give you Wis to-hit and damage (Knowledge of Battle), and all it costs you is 2% Dodge (which you probably have capped anyway). Even Druid 16 would give you an additional 8th level spell if you want it. You're not taking T4's so it won't block any AP spending.

The FVS Cha/Wis to hit and damage feats only apply if at least half your total character levels are favored soul. I assume 1 favored soul is taken in order to get Divine Will in the War Soul tree.

[Xyfiel]

First of all, thanks for posting. Second, did you read the title?

Anyway, all I can think is why take Monk 4 over FvS 2? 15/3/2 split would give you Wis to-hit and damage (Knowledge of Battle), and all it costs you is 2% Dodge (which you probably have capped anyway). Even Druid 16 would give you an additional 8th level spell if you want it. You're not taking T4's so it won't block any AP spending.

Yes but a lot of discussion in this thread was either twf specific or builds that could be used either way. That said an alternative of my build would be 4 fighter instead of monk. Option for kensai or defender. Drop twf feats for swf or go shield with shield feats.

Another swf build I am considering is max cha 12Fvs/4Ftr/4P. Paladin for saves, stance, and 20% hps. Fighter for feats. Hadn't decided on race yet.

Another is Warforged 16 Arty with fighter and monk splash. Not doing WF yet.

Decided to do the Druid twf for now but can post about others when I get there.

[unbongwah]

SDK Vistani Skirmisher
13/4/3 Rogue/Fighter/Bard
True Neutral Shadar-kai


Level Order

1. Rogue           6. Rogue          11. Fighter        16. Rogue
2. Bard            7. Rogue          12. Fighter        17. Rogue
3. Bard            8. Rogue          13. Fighter        18. Rogue
4. Bard            9. Rogue          14. Fighter        19. Rogue
5. Rogue          10. Rogue          15. Rogue          20. Rogue


Stats
               34pt     36pt     Tome     Level Up
               ----     ----     ----     --------
Strength        10       10       +3       4: DEX
Dexterity       20       20       +3       8: DEX
Constitution    14       15       +3      12: DEX
Intelligence    16       16       +3      16: DEX
Wisdom           8        8       +3      20: DEX
Charisma         6        6       +3      24: DEX
                                          28: DEX

Feats

 1        : Single Weapon Fighting
 3        : Shield Mastery
 6        : Precision
 9        : Improved Single Weapon Fighting
11 Fighter: Improved Critical: Piercing
12        : Power Attack
12 Fighter: Improved Shield Mastery
14 Fighter: Greater Single Weapon Fighting
15        : Cleave
18        : Great Cleave
21 Epic   : Improved Sneak Attack
24 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
27 Epic   : Epic Damage Reduction
28 Destiny: Perfect Single Weapon Fighting OR First Blood
29 Destiny: Dire Charge OR Deific Warding
30 Epic   : Past Life: Rogue OR Completionist
30 Legend : Scion of: Ethereal Plane

17 Rogue  : Opportunist
20 Rogue  : Improved Evasion OR Crippling Strike


Enhancements (80 AP)

Vistani Knife Fighter (41 AP)
Knife Expertise, Knife Juggler, Knife Specialist, One With Blades, Vistani Fortune, Knife Master
Vistani Knife Training, Mist Stalker, Rapid Attack
Vistani Knife Training, Bleeding Cuts, Mist Stalker, Haste Boost
Vistani Knife Training, Fan of Knives, Mist Stalker, Deadly Blades
Vistani Knife Training, Celerity, Mist Stalker, Single Dagger
Vistani Knife Training, Mist Stalker, Blessed Blades, Vendetta

Stalwart Defender (13 AP)
Toughness, Stalwart Defense
Item Defense I, Durable Defense III
Resilient Defense III, Instinctive Defense I
Tenacious Defense III

Swashbuckler (11 AP)
Confidence, Swashbuckling
On Your Toes I, Blow By Blow: Melee III
Deflect Arrows, Fast Movement
Skirmisher

Assassin (11 AP)
Knife in the Darkness, Dagger in the Back, Assassin's Trick
Sneak Attack Training, Stealthy III
Venomed Blades III

Thief-Acrobat (3 AP)
Staff Control
Fast Movement

Warchanter (1 AP)
Skaldic: Constitution
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Leveling Guide

Assassin: Knife in the Darkness, Dagger in the Back
Sneak Attack Training, Stealthy II

Swashbuckler: Confidence, Swashbuckling
On Your Toes I, Blow By Blow: Melee III
Deflect Arrows, Fast Movement
Skirmisher

Stalwart Defender: Toughness, Stalwart Defense
Item Defense I, Durable Defense III

Vistani Knife Fighter: Knife Expertise, Knife Juggler, Knife Specialist, One With Blades
Vistani Knife Training, Mist Stalker, Rapid Attack
Vistani Knife Training, Bleeding Cuts, Mist Stalker
Vistani Knife Training, Fan of Knives, Mist Stalker, Deadly Blades
Vistani Knife Training, Celerity, Mist Stalker, Single Dagger
Vendetta
15. Vis5 Blessed Blades; SD2 Resilient Defense I, II, III
16. SD2 Instinctive Defense I; SD3 Tenacious Defense I, II, III
17. TA0 Staff Control; TA1 Fast Movement; War0 Skaldic: Constitution
18. Vis0 Vistani Fortune; Vis2 Haste Boost; Vis5 Vistani Knife Training
19. Vis5 Mist Stalker; Ass2 Venomed Blades I, II
20. Vis0 Knife Master; Ass2 Venomed Blades III; Ass1 Stealthy III; Ass0 Assassin's Trick


Destiny (24 AP)

Legendary Dreadnought
Legendary Tactics III, Extra Action Boost III, Constitution
Momentum Swing III, Imp. Power Attack
Lay Waste, Critical Damage III
(none)
Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical
Master's Blitz

Twists of Fate (36 fate points)
Grim Precision (Tier 3 Shadowdancer)
Reign (Tier 3 Fatesinger)
Legendary Shield Mastery (Tier 2 Sentinel)
Hail of Blows (Tier 2 Flowers)
Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)

INT-based with Harper is also an option. But remember you still need DEX 21 to take Improved Sneak Attack epic feat.