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    Default To multiclass or not to multiclass?

    Hello:

    I have a L16 Half Orc Fighter (Kensai w/Axes of course, nothing from SD tree) first life. No raid gear, all random loot gen.

    I now have enough xp to take L17, but started wondering if I should think about splashing something else instead of staying pure fighter. He does very respectable dps. His obvious weaknesses are:

    1. Elite Traps can one-shot him despite decent health.
    2. Needs to haul a hireling cleric nannybot around with him or go broke buying CSW potions (not enough SF favor yet).

    If I take L17 fighter I get some health and a couple skill points, so thats what made me wonder about staying pure or splashing.

    Any advice?
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    1. Do you like the capstone enhancement?
    2. What's your reflex save? ( if it is not good splashing for Evasion will be pointless)
    3. Do you solo, or do you play with a lot of groups?

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    The first question would be whether or not you're looking at TRing at 20 and if the fighter capstone is worth anything to you.

    I'm guessing your dex is next-to if not dumped so splashing for evasion is probably not particularly useful. Nor would trying to get some trapping skills and a bit late to try to catch-up UMD.

    The consensus I'm reading on Eldritch Knight seems to generally indicate that this might be fun to look at but might not really confer a real advantage, so wizard/sorc might not be particularly useful (though some low-level utility scrolls can help sometimes).

    Cleric and a little bit of warpriest could be fun for a tiny bit of self-healing, I guess.

    Based on your alignment there's the popular monk or paladin splash, might not be particularly useful, either.

    barb or ranger for some sprint boost?

    artificer?

    druid?

    bard?

    fvs?

    My opinion is that splashing at this point, having not planned for it, might be fun for some flavor but I don't see how it would be particularly useful to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnziteBob View Post
    1. Do you like the capstone enhancement?
    Yes, alacrity looks pretty hot to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by EnziteBob View Post
    2. What's your reflex save? ( if it is not good splashing for Evasion will be pointless)
    Not taking into account the heavy armor penalty (which would prohibit evasion) it's still not great, dex is maybe 16 and I wear a +6 resistance item.

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    3. Do you solo, or do you play with a lot of groups?
    Solo or duo with guildy, either way with hireling cleric(s).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinusWyllt View Post
    The first question would be whether or not you're looking at TRing at 20 and if the fighter capstone is worth anything to you.
    I think I will probably play with epic destinies for a while, not sure how much. Alacrity capstone sure looks nice on paper.

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinusWyllt View Post
    I'm guessing your dex is next-to if not dumped so splashing for evasion is probably not particularly useful. Nor would trying to get some trapping skills and a bit late to try to catch-up UMD.
    Correct, good points.

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    Based on your alignment there's the popular monk or paladin splash, might not be particularly useful, either.
    True neutral, I should have mentioned that in the OP.

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinusWyllt View Post
    My opinion is that splashing at this point, having not planned for it, might be fun for some flavor but I don't see how it would be particularly useful to you.
    You are probably correct. I guess I was thinking monk having forgotten about the alignment restrcition.
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    I feel your pain, though. My WF toon that was a fighter/2 rogue splash got really hard for me to play around level 17 or 18. I used the +20 to go juggernaut and it got to be a lot more fun to play after collecting dust for about 6 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinusWyllt View Post
    I feel your pain, though. My WF toon that was a fighter/2 rogue splash got really hard for me to play around level 17 or 18. I used the +20 to go juggernaut and it got to be a lot more fun to play after collecting dust for about 6 months.
    Well I got to looking at Barbarian a little closer and here is what I see:

    Fighter 17-20 gives me 2 more feats, the core enhancement One Cut (vorpal for 60 seconds, currenlty have 11 action boosts), and the capstone of Alacrity (+2 Strength +15% Doublestrike , +15% Doubleshot , +2 Action Boost uses , +2 to the DCs of all Tactical Feats).

    Barbarian 17-20 gives me +10% movement, 2 rages, DR 1/-, uncanny dodge, trap sense +1 but not much from any of the enhancements.

    It really looks like at this point staying fighter makes the most sense, it's hard to beat (by L20) 13 minutes of vorpol and the 15% double strike.
    My take on "the grind": https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post6220972

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    Oops forgot to say thank you both for your advice.
    My take on "the grind": https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post6220972

    Ordinary humans have inhibitions that serve as a buffer against what we know is bad behavior.
    However, some people, by blaming others for their own bad behavior, develop a thought pattern that allows them to override self-control in order to achieve a selfish end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedora1 View Post
    Oops forgot to say thank you both for your advice.
    if you you are still wanting to splash you can always use your free LR if you have not already used it to respec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedora1 View Post
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    It really looks like at this point staying fighter makes the most sense, it's hard to beat (by L20) 13 minutes of vorpol and the 15% double strike.
    Agreed. If you were going to TR immediately the barb would speed you up a bit to that point.

    and you're welcome!

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    If you are taking too much damage, at this point, going pure and putting points into ED would be best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnziteBob View Post
    if you you are still wanting to splash you can always use your free LR if you have not already used it to respec.
    That's a good point too. I do have the +20LR . The +0 LR would only be useful to modify stats to better fit a MC, but the +20 would also allow me to add rogue or whatever at more advantageous levels.

    Still, I think I have decided to stay pure and see what epic levels have to offer. Never been there before.
    My take on "the grind": https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post6220972

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    However, some people, by blaming others for their own bad behavior, develop a thought pattern that allows them to override self-control in order to achieve a selfish end.
    - My opinion on exploiters and cheaters blaming SSG for unfair punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedora1 View Post
    That's a good point too. I do have the +20LR ...
    I'm saving those on the multi-TR toons to cover one undesirable past life. The next toon up for that will be getting a barb PL without having to level as a barbarian.

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