Daily Dice on Lamannia Changes

[Alcedes]

Glad to hear you guys like the changes.

this is a great and very welcome change. thanks turbine for a great improvement.
btw: it would be fun if a 1 was a critical loss and we had a negative side effect of some sort. something funny preferably that wouldnt prevent us from adventuring. lol

now i dont suppose you would mind coming over to the enhancement forum and addressing some of the S&B questions being asked or just the SD tree or heck, the paladin as a class threads please?

[patang01]

Glad to hear you guys like the changes.

Here's the reasoning behind what was changed:

• We felt the rewards did not feel like they followed a proper progression. A higher category didn't always feel better than a lower category.
• Landing in the bottom few categories felt like losing. At the worst, we're alright with someone feeling "meh" about the result of an unlucky roll. Actively being annoyed at the result though, that's what we didn't want.
• The categories were too confusing! There were too many possible results, and many of them were unwanted by some people.

To fix that, we made the following adjustments:

• The category sizes have been altered, so that fewer rolls are weighted toward the bottom results.
• Collectibles and Ingredients have been removed.
• All rolls now result in an XP reward.
• The size of this award increases with higher tier categories. The XP token is Bound to Account, and you can save them up and transfer them to the character you prefer to use them on. They do not benefit from XP potions or other bonuses to earned XP.
• Categories have been streamlined. Descriptive text under the category now tells you exactly what you can get from your roll landing there.
• The second to top category always awards Skill Tomes. (+1, +2, or +3 on Silver, +4 or +5 on Gold)
• The top category always awards Ability Tomes. (+1, +2, or +3 on Silver, +4 or +5 on Gold)
• XP rewards from Gold rolls are 10 times the XP rewards from a corresponding Silver roll.

We hope that the streamlining of the categories and available rewards, together with the XP rewards, will help make everyone's Daily Dice rolls more appealing.

It does, I finally have a reason to spend a few shards here and there now and then.

Is it possible for you to make the exp tokens stack-able? When I tried this out on Lam I didn't a massive amount of rolls to see if it was weighted and how much XP I could pull and I ended up with 20-30 tokens, many of the 1, 2 and 3k value and all of them took up one slot both in inventory and bank. Maybe you should let us bag it. Just a thought. Especially since it would be one of those things you save up for a TR run or such.

[EllisDee37]

this is a great and very welcome change. thanks turbine for a great improvement.
btw: it would be fun if a 1 was a critical loss and we had a negative side effect of some sort. something funny preferably that wouldnt prevent us from adventuring. lol

Ha! I like this idea. It could be funny if you got debuffed (blinded, cursed, mummy rotted, diseased, fatigued, exhausted, feared, etc...) but that's probably too harsh for new players who don't carry all those pots as a matter of course.

Maybe curse us with appearances, like pumpkin head, the "you're a kobold!" disguise, the taken cookies, etc...

[NytCrawlr]

Maybe curse us with appearances, like pumpkin head, the "you're a kobold!" disguise, the taken cookies, etc...

I'm down with this idea as well.

[redspecter23]

They don't stack so storing them away probably isn't practical but being able to transfer them around is nice.

Is it wrong if I'm planning an entire alt mule or more just for storing xp stones?

[cdbd3rd]

Glad to hear you guys like the changes.

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Co-signing the popular opinion that the old/current version of DDs undermined any interest in actually buying rolls.

Good move on the new version.


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edit: Stackable would be nice.

[SanMerci]

Ha! I like this idea. It could be funny if you got debuffed (blinded, cursed, mummy rotted, diseased, fatigued, exhausted, feared, etc...) but that's probably too harsh for new players who don't carry all those pots as a matter of course.

Maybe curse us with appearances, like pumpkin head, the "you're a kobold!" disguise, the taken cookies, etc...

Can I two-thumbs-up this idea even if it is my very first ever forum post here? Heck, I'd pay extra just for a chance to get pun'kin headed!

[oradafu]

Ha! I like this idea. It could be funny if you got debuffed (blinded, cursed, mummy rotted, diseased, fatigued, exhausted, feared, etc...) but that's probably too harsh for new players who don't carry all those pots as a matter of course.

Maybe curse us with appearances, like pumpkin head, the "you're a kobold!" disguise, the taken cookies, etc...

I vote pumpkinhead. If for no other reason then to annoy all the people who whine about being pumpkinheaded during Mabar, even after the Devs added the toggle removed the pumpkin.

[ka0t1c1sm]

Spent quite a bit of astral shards on Lamannia trying out the gold rolls and I have to say I love the changes. The xp stones are great, but I do echo the desire for those to stack. The consumables and questing aids are nice as well. Gold seal elixirs of healing, deathward potions, bells of opening...good stuff.

Great job Turbine!

[Uidolon]

good change but

+1tome and +2 tome highest reward??? why they are junk second highest has the good stuff.
+1tome and +2tomes junk definitly not as good as a exp pot so i get unhappy when i get highest rank silver rolls.

last time i got a high roll and got a +1tome i sighed and thought to myself do i destroy it right now or do i send it to my bank toon to lay there for a couple of years until i destroy it to save space.

lot of these rewards require its own bankspace since you only own a single of them and are not worth 1 bank space, think i remember getting couple of high lvl healing pots awhile back from the lottery destroyed them at the spot not worth a single inventory space if its only 1-5 wouldnt save 10 or 20 of them either 50 is were id start to consider them worth a invetory slot.

stop giving me single number junk i dont have the bank/inventory space to keep until its a good time to use

[MrkGrismer]

Well, this should be interesting. I have two (premium) accounts that I currently only have a single character on and I log them in each day for daily dice (silver) and then log off. It has the added benefit of keeping them 'current' for guild bonus purposes. They've been (slowly) acquiring some decent plat. This will have the interesting side effect of possibly letting them level without doing a single quest. Well, I'll see how it goes anyway. It might make me play them instead of leaving them at level 16 (which is the 'sweet spot' for Mabar).

[unacceptable]

Is it wrong if I'm planning an entire alt mule or more just for storing xp stones?

Hah, i somehow accidently transferred a 20th shroud completion essence of cleansing and signet stones to a mule and now they are forever stranded. I have no idea how it let me put those in my account bank, but i can't put them back now.

[Krelar]

Hah, i somehow accidently transferred a 20th shroud completion essence of cleansing and signet stones to a mule and now they are forever stranded. I have no idea how it let me put those in my account bank, but i can't put them back now.

There was a bug/exploit awhile ago that would have allowed that it was eventually fixed though.

[Alistina]

Wooot! This is awesome. I have been itching to try my luck on the paid gold roll on live but a good chance of throwing away AS on crappy stuff like collectables stopped me.

Can't wait for this to go live! Finally a good place to spend my shards

Thanks for listening to the player feedback. I'm so happy to see some positive things happening in the game.

[96th_Malice]

Every roll also give a XP stone (100 to 10k), and you can't win Colectibles anymore.

Nice for sure

[Johnstone]

If you use enough XP stones to level a character (possibly even one) while you are on The Voyage and before you have talked to Thealeh, she will send you straight to the market.

Also, the XP stones appear to bypass the level-1xp cap. Although when I did so and then tried getting the guide to level me to 20, he tried but I kept getting capped.

[Fedora1]

To fix that, we made the following adjustments:

• The category sizes have been altered, so that fewer rolls are weighted toward the bottom results.
• Collectibles and Ingredients have been removed.
• All rolls now result in an XP reward.
• The size of this award increases with higher tier categories. The XP token is Bound to Account, and you can save them up and transfer them to the character you prefer to use them on. They do not benefit from XP potions or other bonuses to earned XP.
• Categories have been streamlined. Descriptive text under the category now tells you exactly what you can get from your roll landing there.
• The second to top category always awards Skill Tomes. (+1, +2, or +3 on Silver, +4 or +5 on Gold)
• The top category always awards Ability Tomes. (+1, +2, or +3 on Silver, +4 or +5 on Gold)
• XP rewards from Gold rolls are 10 times the XP rewards from a corresponding Silver roll.

We hope that the streamlining of the categories and available rewards, together with the XP rewards, will help make everyone's Daily Dice rolls more appealing.

Excellent!!

Much better than my Gold Roll from 15 minutes ago:

(Standard): You obtain a Page torn from a Research Notebook, a Page torn from a Research Notebook, a Page torn from a Research Notebook, and a Page torn from a Research Notebook.

lol

[Vastyr]

Glad to hear you guys like the changes.

Here's the reasoning behind what was changed:

• We felt the rewards did not feel like they followed a proper progression. A higher category didn't always feel better than a lower category.
• Landing in the bottom few categories felt like losing. At the worst, we're alright with someone feeling "meh" about the result of an unlucky roll. Actively being annoyed at the result though, that's what we didn't want.
• The categories were too confusing! There were too many possible results, and many of them were unwanted by some people.

We hope that the streamlining of the categories and available rewards, together with the XP rewards, will help make everyone's Daily Dice rolls more appealing.

Liking the xp stones. But make them stackable Or have bags for them for easy BTA transfer. Storage space is getting smaller and smaller with each new update.

[Veriden]

Glad to hear you guys like the changes.

Here's the reasoning behind what was changed:

• We felt the rewards did not feel like they followed a proper progression. A higher category didn't always feel better than a lower category.
• Landing in the bottom few categories felt like losing. At the worst, we're alright with someone feeling "meh" about the result of an unlucky roll. Actively being annoyed at the result though, that's what we didn't want.
• The categories were too confusing! There were too many possible results, and many of them were unwanted by some people.

To fix that, we made the following adjustments:

• The category sizes have been altered, so that fewer rolls are weighted toward the bottom results.
• Collectibles and Ingredients have been removed.
• All rolls now result in an XP reward.
• The size of this award increases with higher tier categories. The XP token is Bound to Account, and you can save them up and transfer them to the character you prefer to use them on. They do not benefit from XP potions or other bonuses to earned XP.
• Categories have been streamlined. Descriptive text under the category now tells you exactly what you can get from your roll landing there.
• The second to top category always awards Skill Tomes. (+1, +2, or +3 on Silver, +4 or +5 on Gold)
• The top category always awards Ability Tomes. (+1, +2, or +3 on Silver, +4 or +5 on Gold)
• XP rewards from Gold rolls are 10 times the XP rewards from a corresponding Silver roll.

We hope that the streamlining of the categories and available rewards, together with the XP rewards, will help make everyone's Daily Dice rolls more appealing.

These are all good changes, though I would take it one step further for logical sake. Let xp stones of like values stack.
Spending 5k shards on gold rolls last night I got
1 +5 int tome
1 +4 int tome
~7 +4 skill tomes of various skills (none of which were umd)
15 raid bypass timers
20 superior xp elixiers
14 superior sibs cakes
300 gold seal healing potions
20 potions of death ward
200 potions of haste
~100 collective potions between fire shield hot/cold
80 potions of greater heroism
120 bells of opening
and
roughly 700k plat

That is a huge pile of 1k xp stones that would've been nice if they stacked. I reached lvl 11 1/2 on a 20something life character by the time I said screw it and went to bed. So to me the dice still feel weighted for the bottom of the barrel roll winnings. I only rolled 100 twice in roughly 340 rolls

[SisAmethyst]

Hah, i somehow accidently transferred a 20th shroud completion essence of cleansing and signet stones to a mule and now they are forever stranded. I have no idea how it let me put those in my account bank, but i can't put them back now.

Makes me wonder by the way, if the list also include the possibility to win an 'essence of cleansing'