Farwind: An Air savant Endgame EE DPS Build

[Wizza]

How is your build doing for spell pen in legendary content? Ive got heroic comp as well as 3x wiz and 2x FvS lives and still not sure if to go back to Air Savant or do Warlock. Though find Warlock a little too simplistic as a caster compared to Sorc. Not sure what to drop for Completion and depending on how your spell pen is doing I would drop greater spell pen for Comp feat.

Also, have you tried Burst of Glacial Wrath?

52 Spell Penetration works on basically every Elite quest and Hard raids. I think for Legendary Elite raids this is not the CC build you will be looking for, it lacks few more Spell Penetration and Enchatment DC, altho you could make it work with a few changes.

I tried Burst of Glacial Wrath and I love it, DC is a bit low tho. Anyway Greater Ruin > BoGW sadly. I'd love to use it but I'm just going with this OP spell for now, just like Arcane Pulse.

Also, just Duoed Thunder Peaks with Rys. Amazing fun run!

[Holymunchkin]

What are your thoughts on Warlocks vs Air Savant atm for dps... ...if I may poke the bear ^^

Am lookin to turn my Meowwww into a caster, but am bit puzzled by what. I know casters are behind but frankly don't give a ****.

[Morroiel]

What are your thoughts on Warlocks vs Air Savant atm for dps... ...if I may poke the bear ^^

Am lookin to turn my Meowwww into a caster, but am bit puzzled by what. I know casters are behind but frankly don't give a ****.

Not Farwil but I'll provide my input:

I've gone back and forth between these two. I used to love my air savant but I really enjoyed my warlock as well. IMO warlock still wins if you care about character power at all. If not, sorcerer is more fun imo. Sorcerers are in a better spot than before though - they can do really good single target damage but can't sustain it. Warlock's on the other hand are the ultimate trash killers for casters due to having basically 100% sustainability.

Warlock:
Pros:
* Never EVER run out of sp if built right
* Amazing AOE dps
* New (trying different builds/etc can be fun imo)
* Easier to play (a lot less click intensive)
* Fun abilities if fey or fiend
* Can be built to be tanky (less important with this last update as you'll still be one shot)

Neutral:
* First life viable

Cons:
* Not really bursty (your dps is near constant)
* Low single target dps
* Can be boring (depends on player and build- though if you enjoy non-casters you should be fine)
* Spell Pen is stupid (lack of caster levels from divine destiny handicaps you makes all cc builds in LE raids handicapped)
* DCs are lower than you'd think (people complained on lamannia and got their DCs nuked - they are so far behind wizards in this regard)
* Nerfs (they will be nerfed again - I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that they will be nerfed and nerfed in the wrong area)
* Bugs (warlocks are full of bugs - also the devs don't seem to feel they need to fix them)


Air Savant:
Pros:
* Run out of sp if you aren't careful or fully tricked out with clicky's (even then sometimes will run out of sp)
* Good Single target dps (when compared to warlock but not compared to non-casters)
* Fun abilities (wings)
* Interesting to play (varied play style makes the game less repetitive and thus more fun)
* Probably going to buffed in the next year or so - hopefully
* Pre-MOTU nostalgia

Neutral:
* Multi life viable

Cons:
* Hard to play (high learning curve, have to manage short time clicky's and complicated spell rotations / lots of clicks)
* Squishy (even in old content)
* Poor-Okay AOE DPS (when compared to warlock / non-casters
* Can be boring (depends on player and build- though if you enjoy non-casters you should be fine)
* Spell Pen is stupid (lack of sufficient spell pen in enhancements makes all cc builds in LE raids handicapped)
* DCs are low (you can get evoc decent but your ench will not be enough for LE raids)
* Build diversity is low - not much customization if you want a working build (Farwil's is usually the best your gonna get - maybe some slight variations on minor things to personally tweak it to your liking)

[HuneyMunster]

Fey Locks also get wings type ability also with a copy of Kai Shadow Jaunt (Misty Step) but has a lot longer cooldown.

Locks also do well in EA, Draconic and Shiradi without too much need to rebuild while Savant can use Draconic and EA, but would need to respec spells for Shiradi.

Looking at Burst of Glacial Wrath DC compared to Dire Charge, BoGW has a lot lower potential DC. GoGW has 20+ability mod + evo while Dire Charge has 25+ability+stun. Both get 3 dc from passive past life, and even if you ignore the fighter tactics feats there a lot more higher boost to stun even it you take 3 evo and wiz past life feats. GoGW seem to also need to be 25+ability

Also Warlock can get higher Burst of Glacial Wrath DC +4cha vs +2cha 6th core, +2 evo focus enhancement vs +1 evo focus and also gets Planar Focus +1 all dc's, though these require Tainted t5. Taint the Blood can also reduce fort save by up to 4 from blasts pepping.

[Wizza]

What are your thoughts on Warlocks vs Air Savant atm for dps... ...if I may poke the bear ^^

Am lookin to turn my Meowwww into a caster, but am bit puzzled by what. I know casters are behind but frankly don't give a ****.

Well, it's no secret that Warlocks > every other casters DPS imho. What has it going for Warlocks, more than having more DPS, is the fact that they can sustain it throughout every quest and raid most likely. This is simply not going to happen ever on an Air Savant, for either the lack of shrines (DoJ, MoD, HoX, Shroud p1 and p2 are very demanding on SP) and for the lack of SP regen/SP discount.

I disagree with the previous poster than said AoE's dps for an Air Savant is just okay. The main problem comes down to trash mobs having over 16k HP and your lightning bolt does max 4k crit (a bit more if you take Scion of Fire, which Im thinking to do) so you need multiple spells if EBurst/Breath are on CD and it boils down again to the SP conservation problem. If we are talking about general questing, I feel this build performs more than okay and Im absolutely having a blast with it. I can duo raid with Rys on EE which is the most fun thing I've ever done in the game so I'm very satisfied.

As for LE raids which I know you run a lot, this build is capable of achieving close to Wizards' DC with a few twists. I would consider a Sorcerer as a DPS slot and not the CC (I hate building char around just 2-3 quests). I still feel like Wizards are useless when you can do the same with a sorcerer. But if you really want to make it in a CC for raids instead of just DPS:

What you can do is take Spell Pen, Greater Spell Pen instead of SF: Evocation, Epic Spell Pen at level 21. Run in Exalted Angel which gives +5 DC alone from Innates. Go full ****** Cha in the tree (which would bring you over 70 Cha IIRC), twist Spell Penetration from DI, Enchantment Specialist, Embolden instead of Master of Air et voila. Over 75 DC Enchantment Sorcerer running around with around 60 Spell Penetration ready to rock LE raids. You can still have EBurst in this setup, Sorcerers low CDs, still very high Spell Power, tons of Survavibility in EA.

In the end it really comes down to personal preference. I dont feel like a burden in a party but I know that my DPS is not the best. Of course if you wanna be exploited by Rys and I, you have to be a Sorcerer. We do not accept Warlocks in my party and I kick tbem (this may or may not be true).

[HuneyMunster]

This is simply not going to happen ever on an Air Savant, for either the lack of shrines (DoJ, MoD, HoX, Shroud p1 and p2 are very demanding on SP) and for the lack of SP regen/SP discount.

It doesn't help that one of the benefits of being a Sorc (their spell points bonus) is negated by their 6th core Savant form increasing all spells except sla's and destiny spells by 10%. Similarly, also requiring 5th core in their secondary element just to break even on the due to the penalty to max casters levels.

[Wizza]

It doesn't help that one of the benefits of being a Sorc (their spell points bonus) is negated by their 6th core Savant form increasing all spells except sla's and destiny spells by 10%. Similarly, also requiring 5th core in their secondary element just to break even on the due to the penalty to max casters levels.

Regarding the second point, nowadays Im actually not putting much emphasis on the Ice spellpower but more on the Force Spell power. The Force dot and 2x ruins are insanely good and way better than Niacs biting cold and Polar ray, to which many mobs are resistant in the new pack. Im running around with Elec and Force scepters.

[Wizza]

I've updated the OP with our latest achievements (EE Wyrm, LH HoX and EE Peaks DUO with my partner) and also outlined probably the best equip layout that I can come up with, for now. I didn't put much thought of it and I will not be able to achieve this gear myself due to me loathing LGS crafting but here it is:

- Head: Legendary Boundless
- Necklace: Epic Noxious Ember (Green slot: Spellcraft +15, Yellow slot: Greater Evocation)
- Trinket: Epic Litany of the Dead
- Cloak: GS SP with +6 Int skill, +4 Cha skills, Blindness Immunity
- Belt: +15 Con/False life belt
- Ring1: Legendary Brazenband
- Boots: Legendary Boots of the Devil Commander
- Gloves: Gloves of the Arcane Soldier
- Bracers: Dumathoin's Bracers (30 PRR, 45 Elemental Resistance, Yellow Slot: Globe of True Imperial Blood)
- Armor: Robe of the Celestial Sage
- Goggles: LGS +35 Electric Spell Critical Dmg
- Ring2: +156/22% Magnetism/Spell crit
- Main Hand: LGS +15/+7 Cha/+37 Exceptional Electric Spell power
- Off-hand: Thunder-Forged Scepter (+12, +36 Spell Implement, 150 Impulse Spellpower, +6 Spell Penetration, 22% Impulse Critical lore, Orange: Devotion 138)


Cloak and Necklace would be free with this setup. Put whatever you want there

[Rys]

I will not be able to achieve this gear myself due to Rys loathing LGS crafting

ftfy

[Wizza]

ftfy

Thanks. I just hate Shroud completely instead. Also reported because it's against the community guidelines

[QuantumFX]

Unknown: +1%

Hjaste

[Wizza]

Hjaste

I dont carry it

[QuantumFX]

I dont carry it

Drive-by hjaste?

[Wizza]

Drive-by hjaste?

Nop numbers were taken while standing on the ship

[Erofen]

PRR:



Air savant capstone: +20
Legendary Boots of the Devil Commander: +18 Insightful, +9 Quality, +1 Mythic bonus (Bugged, it's only giving 26 PRR instead of 28)
Dumathoin's Bracers: +30
2x Block Energy PL: +6
1x Brace PL: +3
3x Power over Life and Death: +9

Total: 94 PRR

When I get my Robe of the Celestial Sage, the Dumathoin's bracers bonus will go to 38 = 114 PRR.

The robe is only 8 more, so that makes 102 PRR total.

[Viconiax]

Far, carry me.

[Wizza]

Far, carry me.

Nop

[Wizza]

Finally finished updating for U29 with new gear layout and some fancy Spellpower screenshots.

Also added ToEE video, To Curse the Sky video, LE HoX duo video, LE TS duo video, EE FoT duo video on Rys' and my channels.

[Wizza]

Build updated and finalized for U29, with a new cool layout Also added our DoJ run in the achievements with a link to the video made by Rys!

[Rys]

Build updated with a new cool layout

*****SPOILER ALERT*****

The dragon won.