Spring resurgence - what's the fine print?

[Kaeper]

On the surface it looks rather nifty. 20d6 heals whenever going below 50% health seems like a good way to not die.

What's the catch?
- Timer delay presumably but how much?
- Can be self cast?
- Does it use spell power?
- Will it trigger if you are already below 50% when you cast it?

I was thinking about combining 7 druid with a psychotic frenzied berserker II as a BYOH melee.

If I happened to start running with a healing crew then I could always swap to reaving roar for more DPS & a kick ass battlecry but till then free heals = good

[moriedhel]

1. There's a slight delay between casts of 5 seconds and a slight delay after you go below 50% health before it triggers, around 1 second, per my experience
2. You can cast it on yourself as well as everyone else in the party and you can all have the buff at the same time, it's not exclusive
3. As far as I can tell it does not take spell power, healing amp, or meta magics into account
4. It doesn't trigger if you cast it when you are below 50% you need to take some damage again first

The catch is: it doesn't always work! Almost never triggers if you are stunned, knocked down or otherwise disabled, as well as sometimes just bugging out and not triggering for god knows what reason. It's safe to use when you are above 50% health and expect to take low damage to put you below 50% for a quick heal, but when fighting a tougher mob you can be spike damaged to death before it ever triggers, or it might trigger but because of the cd not be able to keep up. You can even be knocked down/held/whatever and killed from full hp to -10 without it triggering. Pretty unreliable. You are better off using the vigor spells from the druid side.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

Stays on for five minutes, goes away when activated, so only goes off once.

Slight delay in casting it....

in short, it is really annoying trying to keep this on six people at all times. (and their pets. )


I also have not noticed it working often.... but that is probably just me not noticing... cause I have seen it work definately once or twice.

The healing it gives seems small to me though.

Not sure that it works if the target is already below half health....... can someone else confirm?

[Coyopa]

I have this on my level 8 druid. Granted, he's not very high level. However, I put it on me, my pet, my summon, my hireling. When you're all fighting in a group, it's fantastic. One of them goes below 50% and everyone gets healed. I've even been in situations where I've been surrounded by 10+ mobs (Tangleroot on elite) and the damage was coming fast and furious. With the 1s delay in it going off, I've seen it happen where 2 or 3 of my group went under 50% just a little staggered from each other. One resurgence would heal everybody, we'd all take damage. The next one would top us back up and we'd take more damage. The last one would top us back up. All the while, we're just fighting away and cutting the mobs down. By the time all three have gone off, I've got room to step back, re-apply, then get back in there swinging.

EDIT: And the target has to be above 50% when it is applied. If they are below, it will not trigger until you bring them above 50%.

[moriedhel]

Not sure that it works if the target is already below half health....... can someone else confirm?

It doesn't, you still need to get hit at least, I have walked around with the buff on at 10-20% health hoping the next hit will trigger that heal without killing me first

[jsaving]

On the surface it looks rather nifty. 20d6 heals whenever going below 50% health seems like a good way to not die.

What's the catch?

The biggest "catch" to spring resurgence is what you lose by taking it, especially fatal harrier and reaver's roar. Other issues are that it doesn't always trigger, isn't affected by metas, and doesn't scale with level (good when you first obtain it but not so good at endgame).

There's also a problematic display issue in that the icon for the +2 primal attack bonus looks like the icon for spring's resurgence itself, which sometimes misleads people into thinking spring's resurgence is still active when in fact it isn't.

All of that said, spring's resurgence is an inexhaustable source of SP-free healing, which makes it an unusually useful (and probably underappreciated) part of the druid's toolkit.

[Kaeper]

Thanks for the replies folks

Seems good without being overwhelming.

I'll add this to the build concept list for a BYOH capable Berserker; easy enough to swap enhancements around to spec into Roar at higher levels.

[RavenStormclaw]

I will add one thing...the delay is a lot less than one second. I have survived blade traps that hit me for more hit points then I had...and resurrgence kept me alive and I've done this more than once so it wasn't a fluke.

[RoelHeeswijk]

My completionister is now doing his druid life, and I must say that i have forgotten that druids have heal spells. I got up to level 16 so far without healing myself more than once a quest. I use resurgance, on the other hand, about 50 times per quest. I just run gather 15 mobs, firewall, and stand in the middle resurging myself every other second. I don't even bother with jumping around or anything like i would on a sorc, since I can't get below 50% hp anyway. If your reflex is good and you re-resurge as soon as it goes off, it's just invulnerabilitymode-on. I love being able to spent every last SP on the offensive.

Only thing comparable to the feeling of spring resurgence is a torc at low level, no matter how much you get hit, it just doesn't matter.

I will go ahead and call it OP, although I'd think I wouldn't enjoy playing a druid without it.

[Claver]

Does anyone know if the burst of positive energy damages nearby undead? It seems like it might from my play experience but I have not tested/confirmed this.