I'd like everyone's opinion or pointers before I TR.
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(+1) Skill: Perform (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Spell (1): Focusing Chant Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I Enhancement: Bard Charisma I Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I Level 5 (Bard) Skill: Concentration (+2) Skill: Haggle (+1) Skill: Jump (+2) Skill: Perform (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma I Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I Enhancement: Bard Wand Heightening I Level 6 (Bard) Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell Spell (2): Blur Spell (2): Heroism Level 7 (Bard) Spell (2): Rage Spell (1): Charm Person Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song I Level 8 (Bard) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Haggle (+1) Skill: Perform (+3) Skill: Use Magic Device (+3) Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II Level 9 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10-10-2012, 04:18 AM #1Community Member
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Kliink - 34 pt Warchanter with survival in mind.
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10-10-2012, 04:34 AM #2Community Member
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tooo many of those builds :/
Originally Posted by angiaks
-- but anyways looks nice....
for my self
i have a 12 barb 6 fighter 2 rogue- aa/trapper/warchanter which is severly fun :3
then i also have an insane intimidate sorta tank
8 fighter 6 barb 6 bard
kensai 1/barb frenzy/warchanter....
Both input and output tons of damage ....
and both can be made into survivability
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10-10-2012, 04:37 AM #3Community Member
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Drop dex 14 (buy a +3 tome), increase Int into 14, this should allow you to do traps rather comfortably.
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10-10-2012, 04:45 AM #4Community Member
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Originally Posted by cru121
12 i think is enough,
10 is way to close cutting it...
i would also change charisma to 12 for 10 is low but 12 is the magic spot :3
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Updated version - main weapons greataxe, side arm bow/arrow
Still don't know if I Want to take force of personality to fix my will saves
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.14.02 DDO Character Planner Home Page Kliink Level 20 True Neutral Human Male (8 Fighter \ 6 Barbarian \ 6 Bard) Hit Points: 370 Spell Points: 255 BAB: 18\18\23\28\28 Fortitude: 17 Reflex: 12 Will: 9 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) Strength 18 29 Dexterity 14 17 Constitution 14 19 Intelligence 8 10 Wisdom 8 10 Charisma 14 19 Tomes Used +3 Tome of Strength used at level 1 +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1 +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 1 +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1 +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 1 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) Balance 3 4 Bluff 3 4 Concentration 3 18 Diplomacy 3 4 Disable Device n/a n/a Haggle 3 4 Heal 0 0 Hide 3 3 Intimidate 7 27 Jump 9 30 Listen 0 13 Move Silently 3 3 Open Lock n/a n/a Perform n/a 10 Repair 0 0 Search 0 0 Spot 0 0 Swim 5 11 Tumble n/a 5 Use Magic Device n/a 23 Level 1 (Fighter) Skill: Intimidate (+4) Skill: Jump (+4) Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack Feat: (Selected) Toughness Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Handed Fighting Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I Enhancement: Human Versatility I Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I Level 2 (Fighter) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Swim (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Fighter Strength I Level 3 (Bard) Skill: Concentration (+3) Skill: Perform (+3) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I Level 4 (Barbarian) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Intimidate (+2) Skill: Jump (+2) Skill: Listen (+1) Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I Level 5 (Barbarian) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Listen (+3) Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I Level 6 (Fighter) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Swim (+1) Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Level 7 (Bard) Skill: Concentration (+2) Skill: Use Magic Device (+5) Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I Level 8 (Bard) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Balance (+1) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Tumble (+2) Skill: Use Magic Device (+3) Spell (1): Feather Fall Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I Enhancement: Bard Charisma I Level 9 (Fighter) Skill: Intimidate (+2) Skill: Jump (+1) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II Level 10 (Fighter) Skill: Intimidate (+2) Skill: Jump (+1) Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II Level 11 (Bard) Skill: Concentration (+2) Skill: Perform (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+4) Spell (2): Blur Spell (2): Rage Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II Level 12 (Barbarian) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Intimidate (+2) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Listen (+2) Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I Level 13 (Fighter) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Jump (+2) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I Level 14 (Fighter) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Jump (+2) Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy III Level 15 (Fighter) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Jump (+2) Feat: (Selected) Bow Strength Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Point Blank Shot Enhancement: Racial Toughness III Level 16 (Barbarian) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Listen (+3) Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II Enhancement: Fighter Strength II Level 17 (Barbarian) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Listen (+3) Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II Level 18 (Bard) Skill: Concentration (+1) Skill: Perform (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+5) Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot Spell (2): Heroism Spell (1): Focusing Chant Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II Level 19 (Bard) Skill: Concentration (+5) Skill: Perform (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II Enhancement: Bard Charisma II Level 20 (Barbarian) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Intimidate (+3) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Listen (+1) Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
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10-12-2012, 12:44 AM #6Community Member
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Firstly do u know what u want to achieve with your 34 pt build.
It is my view that a ftr8/barb6/bard6 is not a bard! It could be considered as a basis for a mongrel sort of confused axe swingy noise making thingy.
Your songs will do jack (will sacrifice to make your perform DC credible), no significant self heal or reliable UMD, no evasion, no trapping, you probably wont have the armour or the feats or HP or PPR or saves or ....... to tank anything other than the bottom of an empty ale barrel.
FUN - yes probably up to a certain point. Recommended for the TR investment it will take - not by me.
Honestly I struggle to see how above alt, and the word survivability could be worked into the same sentence.
I believe it is possible to achieve some good barding based on your original class mix -ie bard 15-16, ftr2, Rog2-3. Survivable too.
Consider Virtuoso over WC to really build on your songs.
balance, conc, perform, UMD. Search and DD if going trapper.
It is possible to achieve mid 60's perform DC, low 60's search and Disable, low 40's reflex (with evasion), TWF or THF spec, able to take over emergency party healer etc
on a 32 pt build bard16/ftr2/rog2.
U could even include Brutal Throw feat for low (but reliable ranged option) if alt is STR based.
GL and enjoy barding!!
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Originally Posted by DawnofEntropy
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10-12-2012, 01:05 AM #7Community Member
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such false accusation..... Originally Posted by NovaNZ
Firstly do u know what u want to achieve with your 34 pt build.
It is my view that a ftr8/barb6/bard6 is not a bard! It could be considered as a basis for a mongrel sort of confused axe swingy noise making thingy.
Your songs will do jack (will sacrifice to make your perform DC creditable), no significant self heal or reliable UMD, no evasion, no trapping, you probably wont have the armour or the feats or HP or PPR or saves or ....... to tank anything other than the bottom of an empty ale barrel.
FUN - yes probably up to a certain point. Recommended for the TR investment it will take - not by me.
Honestly I struggle to see how above alt, and the word survivability could be worked into the same sentence.
I believe it is possible to achieve some good barding based on your original class mix -ie bard 15-16, ftr2, Rog2-3. Survivable too.
Consider Virtuoso over WC to really build on your songs.
balance, conc, perform, UMD. Search and DD if going trapper.
It is possible to achieve mid 60's perform DC, low 60's search and Disable, low 40's reflex (with evasion), TWF or THF spec, able to take over emergency party healer etc
on a 32 pt build bard16/ftr2/rog2.
U could even include Brutal Thrower feat for low (but reliable ranged option) if alt is STR based.
GL and enjoy barding!!
Really....
i have a 8 fighter 6 barb 6bard and i input enough to even output greater....
i can use healscrolls...
i can also have songs..
sure my perform skill won't be nearly as great as a level 20 bard.. but it still works..... and i still can obtain a high amount...
with the amount of strength i can reach its insane....
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10-12-2012, 01:11 AM #8Community Member
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i'd avoid taking weapon focus ranged... really no need for it.. being your a human point blank shot is all you want(because you said you wanted to do bow damage on the side) Originally Posted by angiaks
i'd go for improved sunder instead
but if not possible.. then take something worth while like for me i took +3 skill to umd, of course i did not spec in range so i also took many toughness(i think) not quite sure....
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10-12-2012, 01:27 AM #9Community Member
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Originally Posted by hifdfklgdfdkg
I accept that my views may be nothing more than "such false accusation" - providing of course it can be proven to be false.
break it down for me if u will - how will you get off heal scrolls while raged? if not raged then what will be your Conc skill on those heal scrolls while being in melee doing DPS?
And if scrolling to heal but disengaging from Melee - how are u doing DPS?
What do your songs contribute to a party?
How much is your Perform DC that allows you to support your claim "a high amount".
What will your STR be and how will that help be a survivable WC when you dont even get displace or haste spell and wont even get credit for a bard life if u make it to TR again?
Dont get me wrong - we all get to play our alts our way. What I'm not so sure about is your quality of advice when responding to the OP feedback re a survivable 34 Pt Warchanter build.Last edited by NovaNZ; 10-12-2012 at 03:35 AM.
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10-12-2012, 01:49 AM #10Community Member
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Ok so u got me there. R U suggesting he takes bows and arrows and Point Blank Shot with a lvl 20 modified stat DEX score of 17? All that gear and item space used up when u cant hit the broad side of a barn? Originally Posted by hifdfklgdfdkg
R U promoting this as a better option than using 1 feat and 1 returning throwing axe?
Why wouldn't it be possible for him to take Improved sunder? Both his builds meet the requirements.
And u use a precious feat on Skill Focus - UMD on a supposed Bard?
Mate - I gota stop here. This is giving me cravings to hit the bottle just thinking bout it.Last edited by NovaNZ; 10-12-2012 at 03:11 AM.
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10-12-2012, 03:47 AM #11Hatchery Hero
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Ok, here's my 2 cents, for what its worth. Dont listen to these yahoos talkin about all these levels of barb and or fighter. If you want to make a melee dps, MAKE A BARB OR A FIGHTER. If you want a survivable (I.E. self-healing, self-buffing) BARD, you need bard levels, and more than just SIX. You had the right idea sticking with a 16/2/2 type build. Plus, when you hit 20, it also allows you to take the feat inspire excellence for +2 to all stats, not to mention making you buffs and songs last longer, and making your inspire courage worth having. Also, take your first lvl as bard, to increase the amount of skill points you get. If you want to take the THF route, drop all your ranged stuff. You dont need precise shot if you are swinging a greataxe around. If you need to range something, get a good returning throwing axe. I don't really know too much about ranged bards, but as for THF melee bards, I think I can be of some use.
A.- 14 dex is still a bit high. If you are not dual wielding, you dont need so much. For ref save purposes, 10-12 should be sufficient. You would be better served putting those extra stat points in con, str or cha. Honestly, 10-12 cha is plenty.
B.- Feats. You WILL want: Power Attack, IC: slashing, Maximize, Toughness (multiple times, if possible). Other noteworthy feats are: Emp healiing, Extend, Quicken (really more of a must have feat) THF line (THF, Imp THF, Greater THF) Force of Personality, and Mental Toughness/Improved Mental Toughness. UMD focus isn't really important, as you should be sitting around at least 32-36 @ lvl 20 with no gear or buffs. You have the right idea on skills to pump, so far as I see- UMD, perform, balance, concentration. Drop listen, its a waste of a skill. If you have extras, think about jump and haggle (and/or search and DD if you go with rogue lvls) As for lvl ups, pump str.
C.- Also, consider making a blindness immunity/+5 cha skills/150 sp greensteel item and a GS great axe of some variety, if you haven't done so already.Last edited by AegonTargaryen; 10-12-2012 at 04:17 AM.
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I generally agree with Aegon.
Bard lvl 15 with 20 trained ranks in perform is what u need for Inspire Excellence song which is obtainable at lvl 21.
"UMD 36-38 @ lvl 20 with no gear or buffs" with base CHA 12-14 and pumping STR at level ups got my attention.
Feat wise I wouldn’t take Emp Healing nor any of the Mental Toughness line. I would probably only take Extend OR Quicken but that is neither here nor there. Good arguments exist for taking both.
Good advice re making "+5 cha skills/150 sp greensteel item and a GS great axe" before u TR (though that cant be counted as no gear for UMD 36-38 eh Aegon
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Angiaks - try hitting up for some Bard advice in the Specialist category here on Forums - there are some seriously talented Bard players/builders hanging around. For the record I am not one of those.
GL Angiaks and GO THE BARDS !!Last edited by NovaNZ; 10-12-2012 at 04:33 AM.
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10-12-2012, 05:19 AM #13Community Member
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Meh...... Originally Posted by NovaNZ
I generally agree with Aegon.
Bard lvl 15 with 20 trained ranks in perform is what u need for Inspire Excellence song which is obtainable at lvl 21.
"UMD 36-38 @ lvl 20 with no gear or buffs" with base CHA 12-14 and pumping STR at level ups got my attention.
Feat wise I wouldn’t take Emp Healing nor any of the Mental Toughness line. I would probably only take Extend OR Quicken but that is neither here nor there. Good arguments exist for taking both.
Good advice re making "+5 cha skills/150 sp greensteel item and a GS great axe" before u TR (though that cant be counted as no gear for UMD 36-38 eh Aegon )
Angiaks - try hitting up for some Bard advice in the Specialist category here on Forums - there are some seriously talented Bard players/builders hanging around. For the record I am not one of those.
GL Angiaks and GO THE BARDS !!
i just dislike when there is more of one of the same set up.. for isntance, i see too many 16 2 fight 2 rogue......
I still go with whatever you choose....
and about the improve sunder , i rarely even take the feat so i don't know much about it, sure it is awesome when its not on cooldown but when it saves..... ah well its just an opinion....
8 fighter 6 barb 6 bard
can scroll hea but of course not when raged.... if it gonna solo, then take damage reductions when your getting hit more than your outputting (as in caster area) quest) then don't rage, but does not stop you from using frenzy....
not all the time will you have to scroll heal
like a pure bard trying to melee....
i've ran up a pure bard to 20, and man was it a steep and long run... i had to reset it, or get rid of it before it got any worse... sure it had what the *forum* claims to be best... but it was not the best...
and then i created a 8 fighter 6 barb 6bard and it does wicked damage....
... sure you will not get what a level 15 or 16 bard gets, but still it can work...
about the perform skill
its able to reach into 60-70's i don't quite know what the set up... but i wouldnt see you fascinating(maybe killing your way) your way through level 20.....
and yet again, not even when i finished my level 20 bard, it did not have 35-36 umd...... so.... it came with around 28-29.....
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over all its what you want it to be...
another replica, or a different a more unique build....
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also... Because of the new update.. To hit does not matter..... If my warforge wizard level 18 can hit stuff in elite even a boss.. with a mere 16 strength... To hit does not matter... Originally Posted by NovaNZ
sure you won't be doing alot of damage compared to a true ranger, but it is still damage....
Skill focus umd
helps greatly.....
it allows you less gear to farm.. less gear to focus into umd....
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Ok, ya got meh on the UMD thing. I was lazy and didn't want to log in just to check some stats. If you max out umd every lvl w/16 bard/2barb/2 fig, you end up with 26 umd (Did the math in my head- 19 from bard lvls, 1 from fighter lvls, 1 from barb lvls, assuming a mere 20 cha. Add 1 umd if you take 2 rogue lvls instead.) Still, there is a plethora of gear/buffs to help with that: 5(or 6) from GS, 3 from that deleras necklace, 3 from epic big top, 2 from head of good fortune (or slotted good fortune on an epic item), 2 from ship buffs, 4 from gh, etc. Plus, you get +1 to all skills for every epic lvl. So by the time you get to endgame, as long as you pumped umd, you should be good.
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Tx for your reply. I guess I was interested in understanding/appreciating what perform Skill u achieve with what set up u use when u play on your 8/6/6 alt. Originally Posted by hifdfklgdfdkg
As for fascinating my way through lvl 20 - it's probably one of only a few things I have a fair chance succeeding at when playing EE current content now at lvl 25.
ADDIT - no comment on your most recent post.
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@ Aegon...
LOL - No worries mate. Was just stirring the pot. You bring good information for Angiaks and others to consider. Genuinely appreciated. Originally Posted by DawnofEntropy
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Hi Angiaks here is just one of many possibilities for a 34 point bard (with some survivability). Only thing is that is is Virtuoso, not War Chanter.
Of note: perform of 36 DC base with ability to fascinate constructs and undead, plenty of songs. Evasion, built-in heal amp 20%. Reasonable trapping and reasonable emergency healing (just remember to use Devotion item/weapon).
This is TWF but can be THF, replace extend and maximise if u like for cleave and great cleave which leaves u ready for Overwhelming Critical and Inspire Excellence etc later on.
Go Human for an extra feat etc.
Just food for thought is all.
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Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.14.02 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 20 Chaotic Neutral Half-Elf Male (2 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 16 Bard) Hit Points: 330 Spell Points: 500 BAB: 15\15\20\25\25 Fortitude: 13 Reflex: 16 Will: 10 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) Strength 16 26 Dexterity 14 17 Constitution 16 21 Intelligence 12 15 Wisdom 8 10 Charisma 12 17 Tomes Used +1 Tome of Strength used at level 4 +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 4 +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 4 +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 4 +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 4 +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7 +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11 +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11 +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11 +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11 +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) Balance 6 16 Bluff 1 3 Concentration 5 28 Diplomacy 5 11 Disable Device 5 25 Haggle 1 3 Heal -1 0 Hide 2 3 Intimidate 1 5 Jump 6 13 Listen -1 4 Move Silently 2 3 Open Lock 6 7 Perform n/a 36 Repair 1 2 Search 5 25 Spot 3 4 Swim 3 8 Tumble 3 4 Use Magic Device 5 26 Level 1 (Rogue) Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Barbarian Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian Feat: (Selected) Toughness Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I Enhancement: Human Versatility I Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I Level 2 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I Level 3 (Bard) Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Improved Perform I Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I Level 4 (Bard) Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I Enhancement: Human Versatility II Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I Level 5 (Bard) Enhancement: Half-Elf Improved Damage Reduction I Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I Level 6 (Bard) Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Perform replace with imp crit slash lvl 15 Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I Enhancement: Bard Charisma I Level 7 (Bard) Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II Enhancement: Improved Perform II Level 8 (Bard) Enhancement: Bard Virtuoso I Level 9 (Bard) Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II Level 10 (Bard) Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II Enhancement: Half-Elf Barbarian Constitution I Level 11 (Rogue) Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II Enhancement: Bard Music of the Dead Level 12 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting Enhancement: Bard Extra Song III Enhancement: Fighter Strength I Level 13 (Bard) Enhancement: Bard Music of Makers Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Level 14 (Bard) Enhancement: Bard Extra Song IV Level 15 (Bard) Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting Enhancement: Bard Charisma II Level 16 (Bard) Enhancement: Bard Virtuoso II Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery II Level 17 (Bard) Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Strength I Level 18 (Bard) Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Berserker's Fury Enhancement: Human Versatility III Level 19 (Bard) Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III Level 20 (Bard) Enhancement: Improved Perform III Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Last edited by NovaNZ; 10-13-2012 at 01:42 AM.
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