I got this Half Orc Cleric with only a few melee feats so which...

[firemedium_jt]

He is a healer that can melee if there are too many divines and not enough dps. Maxed out smiting DOT too.

He is a 2hf build and Horc helps this. CLR17/WIZ1. The wiz lvl buffs in blade barrier and extra magic feat also. Plus with Master's touch he can be proficient in martial weapons like Keen Falchions at low lvl.

He will be taking 2 more FTR lvls for more feats. The plan was Orc Power Attack 3 and ORC weapon amp for 2% more to weapon effects. He already has Improved Critical slash and Power Attack. Stun and improved sunder even though he is a STR build seem better on pure melees. Seems GT2F was the way to go to save spell points on mobs. This build was designed before the update for epic. Seems Overwhelming critical is more for bosses and a 19-20 is ok, but I like the critical range on those Falchions better at 15-20.

Does OC req Weapon focus feat +1 to hit?
What a waste of a feat.
http://ddowiki.com/page/Overwhelming_Critical \
shows u need WF, but in the game it is not listed.

So my question is which.... 2hd to G2HF or take Cleave and Improved Cleave (and maybe WF) for OC?
Is improved cleave just as good as G2hf?

I don't know have to fit in WF
Toughness
Power Attack
empower heal
maximize
quicken
IC slash
empower
2hf

are the current ones. Only 2 feat slots left with FTR2 coming up. I would have to drop 2hf for WF maybe cause I do not want to drop empower. It helps with my DOT and Aura and burst heals.

I figured to post this here cause you guys might have a better idea which is better.

With CLR17 he heals just fine with Heal spell for 700. Mass heal for 800 and heal scrolls, and I know when to put the falchion away, so don't hijack this thread please with rants about Clerics should not melee. Believe it or not in slayers and when parties have lots of Divines or self healing the melee comes in handy.


BTW he has 3 Divine Power items for 15 clicks. It gives him the BAB of a FTR of same lvl, more hp and attack speed. It is almost always running with Divine Favor +3 'to hit' and 'to damage'. That is how divines can melee well with just IC and PA. Divine Power works on mages too and many can melee at low to mid lvl with it even with STR10.

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Horic 
Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Orc Male
(2 Fighter \ 17 Cleric \ 1 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 252
Spell Points: 996 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 4
Will: 13

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             20                    28
Dexterity             8                     8
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence          9                    10
Wisdom               14                    14
Charisma             7                       7

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance              -1                     6
Bluff                 1                     2
Concentration         5                    20
Diplomacy             1                     2
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle                1                     2
Heal                  1                     3
Hide                 -1                    -1
Intimidate            1                     2
Jump                  4                     8
Listen                1                     1
Move Silently        -1                    -1
Open Lock            n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                  1                     1
Swim                  4                     8
Tumble               n/a                    0
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell


Level 3 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell


Level 4 (Cleric)


Level 5 (Cleric)


Level 6 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 7 (Cleric)


Level 8 (Cleric)


Level 9 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 10 (Cleric)


Level 11 (Cleric)


Level 12 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Cleric)


Level 14 (Cleric)


Level 15 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 16 (Cleric)


Level 17 (Cleric)


Level 18 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell


Level 19 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant I
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant II
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack III
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude I
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude II
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Heal I
Enhancement: Improved Heal II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Smiting I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Smiting II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Smiting III
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Smiting I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Smiting II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Smiting III
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Smiting I
Enhancement: Cleric Smiting II
Enhancement: Cleric Smiting III
Enhancement: Cleric Smiting IV
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality I
Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning I
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning I
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery I

[countfitz]

If you can afford it, I'd go with cleave-critical line of feats over GTHF, the glancing blows just produce lots of aggro on you, whereas the critical line kills single enemies way faster, which in my experience is better for you in the long run.

On the other hand, I personally have a GTHF battle cleric, 18/2 fighter, and I do like getting all the aggro, because then I only have to worry about keeping myself alive...

So still your decision, just adding what you'd be trading off. Taking aggro vs. quicker single target kills.

The devs dropped Weapon Focus as a necessary feat, btw, so don't worry about that.

I find the best destiny is legendary dreadnought, and take twists from the exalted and sentinal destiny, but you could mix and match as you wish.

[Therrias]

OC still requires cleave and great cleave. I would ditch THF as its not worthwhile unless you take all three...and then it costs too many slots on a divine anyway.