Advice pls

[Razorwing007]

Heya guys.

I have been playing my paladin for a long time but got bored a bit of him.

So I was wondering if you have some good THF build.

I am kinda sick of pure builds and dont want to play pure barb or fighter.

Of the p2p races I own WF and of classes i have all beside druid,monk and artificer.

He will be 36 point build and will have 2 paladin past lifes so,WF melle could be a good option.

Of gear i have complete abisahi set,claw set ,bloodstone and ravager,kensai,shintao sets from ToD.

Pls suggest something good

[Dexol]

Don't have time to post a build but maybe consider a WF lord of blades Favoured soul.

2HF, self healing and the pally past lives will help with the WF healing Penalty.

Just an idea

[Razorwing007]

Yeah i considered that before but already have an evoker FVS.

Really would like to play a melle with great DPS,not a spellcaster.

[Azaghan]

Well, regarding pure melee classes, you have 3 otpions for THF: Barbarian, Fighter, Paldin

Since you don't want to play paladin again, let's check the other two options:

A Barbarian is strongest when pure (or maybe 18/2 with Fighter)

A Fighter could work with a split like 18/2X or 12/6X/2Y (2 rogue or 2 monk probably)

Your other option would be something like a melee FvS or Cleric

[Azaghan]

Yeah i considered that before but already have an evoker FVS.

Really would like to play a melle with great DPS,not a spellcaster.

Well maybe you should try a pure Barbarian then. Heal amp from pally lifes would suit you well too.

You could check the build I posted here

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=389755

only with H-Orc and 36 pts build (enhancements naturally will differ a bit)

EDIT: sorry, noticed you don't have H-Orcs. A Dwarf could work, Human too or even WF

[nivarch]

Are you aiming for efficiency or flavor?

WF FvS are a bit outdated now.
You may go for an acrobat, it's not too bad now with the new raid staff, and staff animations are cool

If you exclude pure barb and pure fighters I don't see any other class that really do well with THF.

[Razorwing007]

Are you aiming for efficiency or flavor?

WF FvS are a bit outdated now.
You may go for an acrobat, it's not too bad now with the new raid staff, and staff animations are cool

If you exclude pure barb and pure fighters I don't see any other class that really do well with THF.

Heh yea thats the problem.
I was considering some blitz THF but since i already have TWF blitz that is out.


Not a lot of choices avaliable for a great THF build.

[cru121]

(deep) splashed bard?

[Razorwing007]

My singing sucks

[unbongwah]

I am kinda sick of pure builds and dont want to play pure barb or fighter.

I was considering some blitz THF but since i already have TWF blitz that is out.

Really narrowing your options here...

Not a lot of choices avaliable for a great THF build.

There would be if you'd stop eliminating the best ones!

If you don't want pure or THF Blitz (barb 6 / ftr 12), what about pally 6 / ftr 12 with a rogue, monk, or maybe even arty splash? DPS is not as good as from barb 6, but good survivability & self-sufficiency w/UMD. Or you could just do some sort of ftr 18 build with a splash of something, though giving up the capstone on a THF build seems...unfortunate.

After that, you start straying into weird flavor build territory - barb 12 / bard 8? ftr 12 / arty 8? - but it sounds like you want something that actually effective.

[Razorwing007]

12 fighter/6paladin/2 rogue definately sound interesting.

But would it work better as TWF or THF?

I am aware that i really narrowed it down but really sick of pure melle builds,but still dont want something crazy like bard/arty/ something build

[unbongwah]

Haven't put a lot of thought into this yet, but basically I was thinking of something like this:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.14.02
DDO Character Planner Home Page

Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Orc Female
(12 Fighter \ 6 Paladin \ 2 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 334
Spell Points: 70 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 14
Will: 9

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             20                    32
Dexterity            12                    14
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         10                    12
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             12                    14

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Paladin)


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave


Level 7 (Paladin)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Rogue)


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 17 (Fighter)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Power Critical


Level 19 (Fighter)


Level 20 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Kensei Greatsword Mastery I
Enhancement: Kensei Greatsword Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Fighter Greatsword Specialization I
Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost II
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack III
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery I

Epic feats: Overwhelming Critical definitely; not sure what to take for the second

Basically she's a typical THF DPS toon but with better survivability & self-sufficiency than a pure ftr or barb has. KotC / HotD / DoS should be interchangeable, depending on what you're fighting and whether you want extra Smites vs +10% heal amp vs +STR & CON while hate-tanking. Can be adapted to any race, too.

EDIT: if you happened to take +3 INT & CHA tomes before TRing, you could start INT 11 CHA 11; basically gain some more skill pts while still getting Divine Might I.

[Razorwing007]

Haven't put a lot of thought into this yet, but basically I was thinking of something like this:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.14.02
DDO Character Planner Home Page

Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Orc Female
(12 Fighter \ 6 Paladin \ 2 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 334
Spell Points: 70 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 14
Will: 9

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             20                    32
Dexterity            12                    14
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         10                    12
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             12                    14

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Paladin)


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave


Level 7 (Paladin)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Rogue)


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 17 (Fighter)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Power Critical


Level 19 (Fighter)


Level 20 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Kensei Greatsword Mastery I
Enhancement: Kensei Greatsword Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Fighter Greatsword Specialization I
Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost II
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack III
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery I

Epic feats: Overwhelming Critical definitely; not sure what to take for the second

Basically she's a typical THF DPS toon but with better survivability & self-sufficiency than a pure ftr or barb has. KotC / HotD / DoS should be interchangeable, depending on what you're fighting and whether you want extra Smites vs +10% heal amp vs +STR & CON while hate-tanking. Can be adapted to any race, too.

EDIT: if you happened to take +3 INT & CHA tomes before TRing, you could start INT 11 CHA 11; basically gain some more skill pts while still getting Divine Might I.

Everything seems great,but I dont have half-orc so I should adapt enchantements for either WF or human.

Thanks a lot,seems like a great build

[unbongwah]

Human would work out really well: you miss out on the static HO dmg bonuses (+4 STR, +4 2H dmg, Power Atk enhs) and extra Action Boosts (& racial hate amp if you went that route); but gain an extra feat & skills, have no INT & CHA penalty (I might put the extra pts into CON), racial heal amp, Adaptability, Versatility (human Dmg Boost + ftr Haste Boost for higher burst DPS), etc.

[Havok.cry]

You could try a 13 rogue, 6 Favored soul, 1 fighter acrobat. I have tried fighters and barbs of various thf flavors, but acrobat has been much funner for me. The fvs in this build provides a huge fort reduction and also boosts rad2 damage if you are using it.
Human
H power attack
1 cleave
2fighter THF
3 toughness
6 great cleave
9 ITHF
12 Icrit
15 GTHF
18 Isunder
21 precision
24 maximise
Feats in no paticular order