Help new build human cleric 28 points

[keyusito]

I am searching for a build human cleric of 28 points. Can somebody help me?

[Jsbeer]

A pretty all-round decent guide and build is here:

http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Cleric_101




Also

http://ddowiki.com/page/Starting_a_Cleric

is good for general reading


and

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...30&postcount=2

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=75

are a couple of alternative builds.

[firemedium_jt]

First off all Clerics with 17 levels should heal well with the right enhancements. As for Casting and Melee that is just how you want to mix it up.

Most Clerics use Divine Punishment for Bosses and Blade Barriers for mobs even if melee spec'd. Now it is just a mix of Melee and/or Casting (and/or crowd control). Some even add in some Dex and maybe a two weapon feat, but for 28 point and novice don't go there. That is way to advanced, so lets go melee 2 hander weapon or casting.


Great starting threads especially the wiki one, but outdated with enhancements and feats. I just have to tear this up, but it is some good information from Wiki.
http://ddowiki.com/page/Starting_a_Cleric

This is IMHO, but so is the information from the wiki link.


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The following cleric enhancements might be considered:

Cleric Divine Cleansing - Used by some Healbots and occasional Generalists - sucks ''''''''''''''''''''
Cleric Divine Healing - Used by some Healbots - sucks''''''''''''''''''''
Cleric Divine Vitality - Used by some Healbots and Generalists. - sucks''''''''''''''''''''
Cleric Energy of the Zealot - Used by virtually all clerics - sucks (can take at low levels)''''''''''''''''''''
Extra Turning - For Healbots and some Generalists - to tier 2 ok.''''''''''''''''''''
Cleric Improved Empower Healing - Used by Healbots and Generalists who carry the Empower Healing feat - sucks''''''''''''''''''''
Cleric Improved Spell Penetration - Used by many offensive casters and some generalists
Cleric Life Magic - Used by virtually all clerics - many take all 4 tiers while some take only 3 tiers for advanced builds''''''''''''''''''''
Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life - Used by all Healbots and most generalists - sucks - just tier 1 needed for Radiant servant''''''''''''''''''''
Cleric Prayer of Life - Used by all Healbots and many generalists - sucks - just tier 1 needed for Radiant servant''''''''''''''''''''
Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery - Used by most Healbots and some generalists. - many take 2 tiers''''''''''''''''''''
Cleric Wisdom - Used by nearly all clerics, except the most melee focused


+++++++++++++No radiant servant 2 or smiting lines makes this list obsolete.++++++++

99.99% of Clerics (that is 9999 out of 10,000 and maybe more) will tell you Radiant Servant 2 is a must have. Probably 5 clerics in the world with 17 levels don't have the Radiant Servant 2 Prestige Enhancement, lol.

Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life and Cleric Prayer of Life are critical healing. Tactically you can't rely on this to heal someone. Most toons with over 600 hitpoints have healing amp to help you heal them if they are smart. Critical healing is just over healing and a waste of enhancement points. Some don't even take Life of the Magic 4, but have gear to make up for this. My heal spell and mass heal over heals without this.

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The following feats might be considered:

''''''''''sucks-- Combat Casting - Not a common feat, but taken by some Offensive Casters or Healbots.

Empower Healing Spell - A prerequisite for the Radiant Servant prestige enhancement, and taken by most clerics.

Empower Spell - Typically only taken by Offensive Casters, but may also be seen on some Generalist builds

''''''''''sucks-- Enlarge - Not a common feat, but may be useful for Offensive Casters, some Healbots, or solo players.

Extend Spell - Taken by virtually all clerics at low level, its usefulness declines in later levels

Extra Turning - Taken by some Healbots for more Turn Undead and Divine Vitality uses - sometimes taken by CHR dump builds. With CHR+6 gear not needed, and not worth burning a feat on. Turns regenerate with Prestige enhancement.

Improved Critical - May be taken by some Generalist or Melee builds.

''''''''''sucks-- Improved Mental Toughness - Can be taken by all clerics for extra spell points

Maximize Spell - Typically only taken by Offensive Casters, but not uncommon to be seen on some Healbot clerics as well.

''''''''''sucks-- Mental Toughness - Can be taken for all clerics for extra spell points

Martial Weapon Proficiency - Might be taken by some Generalist or Melee battle clerics, but more common is for them to take one level of fighter

Power Attack - May be taken by some Generalist or Melee builds.

Quicken - Typically taken by all builds. This feat is recommended for solo players or cleric with low concentration. Often taken at later levels.

Spell Focus - Used by Offensive Casters, usually Evocation focus (to bolster spells like Consume (formerly Implosion)).

Spell Penetration - This feat becomes more useful at later levels when most monsters gain spell resistance. This is more common for the offensive caster build.

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No Heighten!! I say Yes! and a great feat


Clerics do not have enough feats for everything they can do well. They must be selective and take the feats with the most bang for the buck.

Some of the things that suck are good on other caster builds, but due to the Clerics (Divine) need to do [all three] Healing, casting, melee to some degree leaves limited feats and enhancements. A cleric that does not use some or even slight melee resources is not build to full potential, be it strictly from gear resources or other resources that a cleric brings to the table. You do not have to take melee feats to melee. Their casting is not effect by wearing armor. Even Wizards and Sorcs have a few although fewer melee spells and melee resources.

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Generalist (28-Point)
RACE:

Human


STATS:

Str 15, Dex 9, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 16, Cha 11


FEATS:

Mental Toughness
Improved Mental Toughness
Empower Healing Spell
Empower Spell
Extend Spell
Improved Critical:Bludgeoning Generalist (28-Point)
RACE:

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Generalist (28-Point)
RACE: Human


STATS:

Str 15, Dex 9, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 16, Cha 11

Why the odd numbers? Ok but +2 tomes drop latter for free all the time and +1 tomes are cheap at auction house.
lvl ups are +5 and TOD rings are exceptional +1/+3 (TOD rings are added to other common stat gear). Lvl up WIS or STR, but not both.

With human adapt and greater human adapt u can even it out later. But plan it out with character planner if you decide to splash FTR for STR. Wisdom has +3 from enhancements and +1 from human adapt evens out. Most do human adapt in either WIS or STR with CON.

Str 15, Dex 9, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 16, Cha 11
Str 15, Dex 8, Con 14, Int 9, Wis 16, Cha 11 (this is better for +1 INT tome from auction for more skill points. +2 INT are saved for other build types.)
Str 14, Dex 8, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 16, Cha 14 (better for more turns and burst healing and Divine Might 1 is the only good requirement for Radiant Servant)
Str 14, Dex 8, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 18, Cha 8 - good 28pt for offensive casting
Str 14, Dex 8, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 16, Cha 14 -Generalist - 28 pt Good Offensive casting and melee with Divine Might 1 and burst healing ( Good to splash 2 FTR lvls for more melee feats) lvl up WIS.
Str 16, Dex 8, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 14, Cha 14 - Generalist - good 28 pt Good melee with Divine Might 1 and burst healing ( Good to splash 2 FTR lvls for more melee feats) lvl up STR.
Str 18, Dex 8, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 14, Cha 8 - STR based (Good for more melee.)
Str 18, Dex 8, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 8, Cha 14 (16) (32 point) - I just can't do this for more Divine Might now that we have Radiant servant bursts, but ok it is here.

For 32 Point builds on these up the CHR for more turn undeads.

Me likes this one the best....
Str 16, Dex 8, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 16, Cha 10 -Generalist - good 28 pt melee with Divine Might 1 and burst healing ( Good to splash 2 FTR lvls for more melee feats) <<<<<<< I like this one. My 32 point is Str 16, Dex 8, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 16, Cha 14 with 2 FTR lvls and lvl ups in WIS. I like it as a balanced generalist with FTR feats for melee improved critical slash and power attack yet high enough wisdom for casting and DCs.


Even got one of these Half-Orc WIZ1/CLR17/FTR2 builds. Lots of fun. And got party invites with a deceiving Wiz splash at lvl2 during lvls 1-18. They thought it was for Force Manipulation 1 to Blade Barrier, but it is also for Melee Proficiency. He is a strong melee build with 3 extra feats...
Str 20, Dex 8, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 14, Cha 10 - STR based (Good for more melee.) I built a Half-Orc (more STR and 2 handed enhancments) with 3 splash lvls. Wizard at low lvl and casting Master's Touch so other players don't think I am a melee build lol. And 2 FTR lvls for more feats and STR. +3 STR from enhancements and +20% to Blade barrier to offset low Wisdom. Lots of stuff for 2 hander enhancments and power attack. Nice build in 6 man groups and a good 3rd healer in raids.
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FEATS:

Mental Toughness - take Toughness. Everyone takes Toughness (for hitpoints) early now to live!
Empower Healing Spell
Improved Mental Toughness - do not take. Take maximize to buff your healing bursts for free and spells later at mid to high lvl.
Empower Spell
Extend Spell (trade this out after lvls 6-9. Abv. lvl 9 a waste) Swap out for Quicken.
Improved Critical:Bludgeoning - This sucks. Take Slashing. It is the best for scims Falchions and the SOS sword. Even with the -4 hit is better damage. You can get weapon proficiency in slashing weapons through race... Elves rapiers and WF greatsword or

Take heighten instead.

If u are going to use 2 handed weapons then take power attack early (you can keep power attack or trade it out at high lvl for offensive casting feat. All my Clerics proficiency or no proficiency take 2 handed Falchions that are +++ keen +++ at low lvls with power attack. The melee damage is so nice to get you from lvls 1-8.



Again no smiting lines or critical smiting??! Divine Punishment is the best boss killing spell DOT (damage over time) in the game. No save. No spell resistance. No elemental DR unless they are good monsters? Buff it with enhancements and gear too. Radiance and Brilliance.

Blade Barrier no spell resistance. Buff with Impulse.

Devotion for heals.

Divine Power items are really catching on. I have been a big promoter of this for trash mobs. Why waste spell points on the divine power spell for trash mobs?


Build the way that is fun for you, but it is hard to gimp a Cleric's healing unless you take less than 17 levels of Cleric. And good luck getting invites with less than 17 levels of Cleric cause it will be tough. High level healing is using Heal spell with Mass Heal spell and heal scrolls (scrolls mainly for raids). Without 17 levels and Mass Heal spell they will not want you.

Low level healing is mainly stacking cure spells with metas off. Mid lvl is stacking cure spells with empower healing meta on all the time.

[jwdaniels]

I am searching for a build human cleric of 28 points. Can somebody help me?

18 wisdom, 14 con, 12 str, 10 cha.

All level-ups into wisdom

Make sure you qualify for radiant servant as early as possible.

Feats to take include toughness, empower healing, maximize spell, heighten spell, extend spell, and quicken spell.

Your human stat enhancements are constitution and wisdom. Other than this, make sure you can get radiant servant and that you keep your heals maximized.

You want devotion and healing lore items to buff your healing. At low levels, you can melee pretty effectively. As you transition into mid/high levels, your melee attacks are better used focusing on things like curse-spewing (my favorite), paralyzing, etc. Wear heavy armor and use a shield so you can stand in melee with your radiant aura ticking away, and focus on using your spells to prevent damage rather than healing it.

[dopey69]

18 wisdom, 14 con, 12 str, 10 cha.

All level-ups into wisdom

Make sure you qualify for radiant servant as early as possible.

Feats to take include toughness, empower healing, maximize spell, heighten spell, extend spell, and quicken spell.

Your human stat enhancements are constitution and wisdom. Other than this, make sure you can get radiant servant and that you keep your heals maximized.

You want devotion and healing lore items to buff your healing. At low levels, you can melee pretty effectively. As you transition into mid/high levels, your melee attacks are better used focusing on things like curse-spewing (my favorite), paralyzing, etc. Wear heavy armor and use a shield so you can stand in melee with your radiant aura ticking away, and focus on using your spells to prevent damage rather than healing it.

this! max out your wisdom
can't go wrong with these starting stats imo