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    Found an interesting link here.

    http://m.ign.com/articles/2012/06/07...n-neverwinter?

    I like how, in the article, they failed to even consider mentioning DDO. Sounds to me like they're doing their best to recreate what our favorite MMO has already mastered. Honestly looks like a good game though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex69 View Post
    Found an interesting link here.

    http://m.ign.com/articles/2012/06/07...n-neverwinter?

    I like how, in the article, they failed to even consider mentioning DDO. Sounds to me like they're doing their best to recreate what our favorite MMO has already mastered. Honestly looks like a good game though.
    With player generated content it will be. The combat system is really nice as well. Few new vids here. http://nw.perfectworld.com/
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    I'm planning on playing both games. This is the first game that's been successful at pulling me away from DDO, at least part time. Skyrim was great for a few months, but Neverwinter has the best chance at pulling DDO's most loyal away, at least on a part time basis. The game looks like it sits on an updated DDO engine, but it plays very, very different. Cryptic has a LOT in common with Turbine circa 2006 (they've got a great game here, something they were able to cultivate from the ground up that's all theirs...and its their time to make or break their rep). Neverwinter has a LOT in common with DDO circa 2006. As Yogi Berra said, it's deja vu, all over again.

    The biggest obstacle for some of course will be its reliance on 4th Edition rules. If you are happy about that, or at least are willing to give it a shot (even if you hate 4e), you might be taken by surprise. Game looks like its going to be hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex69 View Post
    Found an interesting link here.

    http://m.ign.com/articles/2012/06/07...n-neverwinter?

    I like how, in the article, they failed to even consider mentioning DDO. Sounds to me like they're doing their best to recreate what our favorite MMO has already mastered. Honestly looks like a good game though.
    Dont be fooled, its more like Diablo multiplayer than ddo. A very stripped down combat focused mmo......not an mmorpg. There is a difference........i personally prefer the rpg portion.
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    From the descriptions given in the testing; looks like set class roles, which isnt really dnd (IMHO anyway).

    I'll definately check it out, especially as its f2p, but don't like the idea of playing genericMMO dressed up as dnd

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    When its on market?
    Since DDO is now FR too, I migth prefer game which has not already destroyed my characters.
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    Open beta starts end of USA summer I think, it's somewhere in the link of the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vellrad View Post
    When its on market?
    Since DDO is now FR too, I migth prefer game which has not already destroyed my characters.
    First, it's 4ed based, your characters will be destroyed anyway.
    Second, 4 classes only ( Fighter, Cleric, Rogue, Wizard ), blehhhh, that doesn't even comes near D&D.
    ( which originally had the 4 above classes, Elf and Dwarf )
    Last, there's no reference to FR in Neverwinter... if you read the small prints Neverwinter was cut out of the Realm during the Spellplague so basically PWE won't do any game extension into the Realm ( and will probably kill any Foundry module that hint at any Copyrighted material outside of Neverwinter [ video game version thereof ].)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flavilandile View Post
    First, it's 4ed based, your characters will be destroyed anyway.
    Second, 4 classes only ( Fighter, Cleric, Rogue, Wizard ), blehhhh, that doesn't even comes near D&D.
    ( which originally had the 4 above classes, Elf and Dwarf )
    Last, there's no reference to FR in Neverwinter... if you read the small prints Neverwinter was cut out of the Realm during the Spellplague so basically PWE won't do any game extension into the Realm ( and will probably kill any Foundry module that hint at any Copyrighted material outside of Neverwinter [ video game version thereof ].)
    If this game is not set in FR, then its even better.
    But if there are no dwarves...
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    While, since ddo is trending away from D&D more and more, maybe this will fill the gap left by all the wow clones (re:ddo)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hikup View Post
    While, since ddo is trending away from D&D more and more, maybe this will fill the gap left by all the wow clones (re:ddo)
    NVW is a "Diablo clone" if we really must compare every game to every other games. Thats in a whole other genre when compared to ddo. I really dont think it will fill any voids left by DDO. Its only real advantage are that its D&D FR. Im predicting fail for this one but its not out yet so who really can say what will happen. Wizards has pretty deep pockets and hates to lose, so they could force a win. Maybe use there FR trump card (Drizzt) to pull players....in some cheap way.
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    Please don't mix NW with NWN !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex69 View Post
    Found an interesting link here.

    http://m.ign.com/articles/2012/06/07...n-neverwinter?

    I like how, in the article, they failed to even consider mentioning DDO. Sounds to me like they're doing their best to recreate what our favorite MMO has already mastered. Honestly looks like a good game though.
    The point is to introduce the game. Commenting on DDO distracts from that. There is space in the market for this game. This game is clearly not DDO - and it doesn't really even sound like they want to be. By the sounds of this simplified mechanic they are trying for a different type of user experience. What it will most likely do is bring a greater audience to *our* D&D game - and some of that audience may prefer the DDO experience instead.

    Their timing for this is very good. I have to wonder if their timing is what is driving things like this massive investment in DDO at the moment. And while the birthing pains are very painful, it's good to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeliCat View Post
    The point is to introduce the game. Commenting on DDO distracts from that. There is space in the market for this game. This game is clearly not DDO - and it doesn't really even sound like they want to be. By the sounds of this simplified mechanic they are trying for a different type of user experience. What it will most likely do is bring a greater audience to *our* D&D game - and some of that audience may prefer the DDO experience instead.

    Their timing for this is very good. I have to wonder if their timing is what is driving things like this massive investment in DDO at the moment. And while the birthing pains are very painful, it's good to have.
    Actually, this game looks like DDO did when it released. Limited options, limited leveling, lots of potential, and lots of unanswered questions. The user experience looks very similar to DDO in 2006. The question is where will they take that user experience in the first couple years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captain1z View Post
    Its only real advantage are that was D&D FR.
    Fixed it.
    With The Spellplague and with how branding and licencing is, Neverwinter has almost no more ties with FR. It is more like a standalone setting. ( anybody think I6 around here ? )

    Quote Originally Posted by captain1z View Post
    Im predicting fail for this one but its not out yet so who really can say what will happen. Wizards has pretty deep pockets and hates to lose, so they could force a win. Maybe use there FR trump card (Drizzt) to pull players....in some cheap way.
    Nope, they won't... Neverwinter is what is left of the Atari mess... They couldn't cut it without paying lots of money, so they just restricted what could be done.
    I don't expect to see a Drizzt ( or anybody related to FR ) in Neverwinter.
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    Neverwinter will sit on a much newer engine than DDOs. There are many similarities. The party grouping features will weigh heavily in DDOs favor in the beginning at first, however, with further tweaking, added classes and user created content can eventually tip the scale in Neverwinter's favor for even the initially unimpressed. At first, I think the hardcore DDOers (like myself) will be quite critical at first, since we are use to the way DDO plays.

    But I think a sizable portion of us thats enjoyed DDO over many years might like the change in engine, surprising storyline quests (characters and lore from R. A. Salvatore novels and other FR books), and more balanced game mechanics.

    Combat is where I am hung up. I think DDOs combat is the best in the biz, and will remain so even after Neverwinter gets released. Therefore, in my mind at least, I think there's room for both games to not only survive, but to prosper.
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    Probably not gonna involve forgotten realms material. Combat seems ok and the rest is a maybe good thing is they have awhile till its ready to get better.
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    I'm looking forward to the game. I think it will be a welcome change from doing the same thing over-and-over in DDO, at least for me.
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    Played Neverwinter a bit at E3 while I was at thier booth. It's still pretty alpha. Looks good, combat system is easily understood. The dev's said it won't be cookie-cutter classes.

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