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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora1979 View Post
    born and raised in surrey on boarder with kingston and know plenty of country folk so yea, I know about regional dialect

    the scottish dont count, im talking about english.... I cant figure it all out by myself!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.Ogre View Post
    um, yeah: "American-ized". exactly.

    BAH! I'm American. to me... 'colour' is wrong. so there :-P

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    Well, the brits took colour from Old French, same spelling. (it's spelled 'couleur' now... who knows why). The yanks spelled it that way for quite some time as well, but switched to the latin version 'color' to save space and $ in typesetting. So there as well, it was the influence of mass media, that caused the language to evolve. There's no 'right' way, except to say that the 'right' way to communicate is the one most of your audience will understand. So if most people understand LOL to mean 'that's funny' then why not use it? Saves time and keystrokes and still gets the point across.
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    I am a compulsive editor of bad spelling and grammar as well, but as I grow older I realize that B.Ogre has it right. The primary goal of writing is communication. If the audience understands your meaning, it doesn't really matter whether your spelling is the same one in some moldy dictionary.

    Nevertheless, I cringe when I see some write "the point is mute." It's MOOT, darn it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torkzed View Post
    I am a compulsive editor of bad spelling and grammar as well, but as I grow older I realize that B.Ogre has it right. The primary goal of writing is communication. If the audience understands your meaning, it doesn't really matter whether your spelling is the same one in some moldy dictionary.

    Nevertheless, I cringe when I see some write "the point is mute." It's MOOT, darn it!
    Hehe, yeah. I cringe too. Like I said, I'm pretty picky about that sort of thing, but I realize it's personal problem, so I mostly just let it roll off. But bad spelling and grammar are different than 'common usage' stuff, like moar and lol. I can totally understand how moar could become part of the language. It has a pretty specific meaning and spelling that differentiates it from 'more'. Google has long been used as a verb, I think it was Buffy the Vampire Slayer series that started popularizing that one... not sure, go ahead and google it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sephiroth1084 View Post
    When it's used to emphasize the desire for MORE, it makes some sense, if rather silly, but I'm seeing people using 'moar' in place of 'more' commonly now, and have run across some non-native English speakers who are using 'moar' because they see everyone writing it on the forums/in chat.

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    moar hjealz pl0x
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    My car pwned me today... stupid power steering...

    But back on topic, as far as 'moar' goes, it's not even close to being cromulent...
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.Ogre View Post
    [Moar] has a pretty specific meaning and spelling that differentiates it from 'more'.
    And that's kind of my point: 'moar' does have a specific usage, which I can live with (I don't like LOL, but I can live with it when it's used to denote amusement), but I'm seeing 'moar' popping up in places it doesn't belong--non-roaring desire for more, in idiomatic constructions like, "more often than not," which is kind of weird, and is no longer net speak in the same sense.

    Take pwned for example. Using 'pwned' to say that you beat someone handily makes sense, but using it to say that you previously possessed something doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sephiroth1084 View Post
    When it's used to emphasize the desire for MORE, it makes some sense, if rather silly, but I'm seeing people using 'moar' in place of 'more' commonly now, and have run across some non-native English speakers who are using 'moar' because they see everyone writing it on the forums/in chat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sephiroth1084 View Post
    And that's kind of my point: 'moar' does have a specific usage, which I can live with (I don't like LOL, but I can live with it when it's used to denote amusement), but I'm seeing 'moar' popping up in places it doesn't belong--non-roaring desire for more, in idiomatic constructions like, "more often than not," which is kind of weird, and is no longer net speak in the same sense.

    Take pwned for example. Using 'pwned' to say that you beat someone handily makes sense, but using it to say that you previously possessed something doesn't.

    Let me get this straight. You have a problem with LOL, which is a 3 letter abreviation for Laugh Out Loud, but are okay with pwned, which is a typo of owned? And moar, you like sometimes? What's your opinion of 'rouge' then? Gotta say that you're not coming across as very consistant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirgog View Post
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    I had no idea that the Amish had language police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psiandron View Post
    Let me get this straight. You have a problem with LOL, which is a 3 letter abreviation for Laugh Out Loud, but are okay with pwned, which is just a typo of owned? And moar, you like sometimes? What's your opinion of 'rouge' then? Gotta say that you're not coming across as very consistant.
    I find LOL to be irritating, since no one is actually laughing when they write it.

    Pwned and moar have their net-speak niche, which I'm not a fan of, but can stomach, sort of, because they have a specific usage/meaning in those cases.

    My issue, really, is with moar becoming used outside of that niche.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordMond63 View Post
    I had no idea that the Amish had language police.
    Really? I'd expect them, of all peoples, to have exactly that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sephiroth1084 View Post
    I find LOL to be irritating, since no one is actually laughing when they write it.

    Pwned and moar have their net-speak niche, which I'm not a fan of, but can stomach, sort of, because they have a specific usage/meaning in those cases.

    My issue, really, is with moar becoming used outside of that niche.
    Yeah, okay. I understand your sentiment. Unfortunately, you better get used to it. Attitudes toward language in the U.S. have become pretty cavalier. It isn't really percieved as important. Even worse and despite protestations to the contrary, the rest of the English speaking world is going down the same path. Chalk one up for Marshall McLuhan.
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    All right guys, cut it out already. We've had moar than enough discussion about this already.

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