Human DPS FVS any suggestions?

[Keylon]

While reading up the compendium lately I finally decided to roll me an FVS, I'm currently LVL 9 and loving it. It's a human melee dps FVS but not with longswords but with greatswords because I didn't want to take 3 TWF feats plus I could get considerably more damage by using an Esos rather than Min II longswords. Plus I'm sure I can hit the 32 UMD necessary to use Fireshield scrolls in TOD.

So here is my built:

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Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
(20 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 342
Spell Points: 1980 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 15
Will: 12

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             16                 23                   24
Dexterity            14                 16                   16
Constitution         16                 18                   19
Intelligence         10                 12                   12
Wisdom                8                 10                   10
Charisma             14                 17                   21

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 20

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               4                 12                   12
Bluff                 2                  5                    5
Concentration         7                 27                   27
Diplomacy             2                  5                    7
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle                2                 14                   14
Heal                 -1                  0                    2
Hide                  2                  3                    3
Intimidate            2                  5                    5
Jump                  3                  7                    7
Listen               -1                  0                    0
Move Silently         2                  3                    3
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                  1                    1
Search                0                  1                    1
Spot                 -1                  0                    0
Swim                  3                  7                    7
Tumble                n/a                3.5                  3.5
Use Magic Device      4                 16                   16

{\b {\ul Notable Equipment }} \par Epic Helm of Frost \par Epic Envenomed Cloak \par Colethenis's Belt \par Ring of the Ravager \par Torc of Prince Raiyum-de II \par Dragontouched Breastplate \par Epic Charged Gauntlets \par Epic Sword of Shadow \par Epic Ring of Venom \par Epic Brawn's Spirits \par Epic Infested Armor \par Kormor's Belt \par Epic Boots of Corrosion \par Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Goggles of Existential Stalemate \par Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Bracers of Smoke \par  \par Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Empower Spell
Feat: (Deity) Favored by the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric


Level 2 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Greatsword


Level 4 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 7 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 8 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 19 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Feat: (Deity) Favored Soul Damage Reduction: Cold Iron
Enhancement: Favored Soul Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Ascendency: Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Angel of Vengeance I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Angel of Vengeance II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III

A few things: I took a higher DEX because it seemed like it would make the low levels easier with the whole AC thing, it helps out my Balance skill, and I just didn't see a huge difference between 16 base STR and 18 base.

STR:
16(Base)
5(LVL up)
1(Human Adaptability)
7(Epic Grim's Bracelet)
3(Tome)
2(Ship)
3(Greater Might of Abishai)
3(Exceptional)
2(Yugo Pot)
= 42 STR

He should have 2800 SP and around 550+ HP. I'll most likely use the Terror and a Holy Evil Outsider Bane Greatsword until I pull my Esos. I'm really liking the way the Epic Infested Armor looks I might just get that for the +6 DR(from demonic shield), Heavy Fort, and Augment Slot. I also have all the equipment neccessary to make an Epic Mask of Comedy. Heres the equip set

HEAD: Epic Mask of Comedy
NECK: Torc
TRINKET: Epic Brawn's Spirits
CLOAK: Epic Envenomed
BELT: Coletheni's Belt (The Raveger set)
RING 1: Ravager Ring
GLOVES: Epic Charged Gauntlets
BOOTS: Epic Boots of Corrosion
RING 2: Epic Grim's Bracelet
BRACERS: GS HP Smoke II
ARMOR: Epic Infested
GOGGLES: GS SP Conc Op

So what do u think?

[wax_on_wax_off]

I'd suggest to be wisdom based. With appropriate gear you can get sufficient strength to contribute meaningful melee DPS and the boost to wisdom is worth much more for useful spell DCs.

Edit: Also, no point in having 2 slots dedicated to GS. Having Conc-opp HP goggles and then use another slot (like bracers, boots or gloves) for GS +150 SP airguard, +6 charisma skills item.

Finally, as human I wouldn't have WP:Greatsword at cap but rely on friendly MT, copping the -4 penalty or cakes.

[morticianjohn]

grim's bracelet is too big to go on your ring finger btw. You can fit it over your head and wear it around your neck.

I'd go with scorched bracers (for the 3 set abishi set) and brawling gloves (+7 STR enhancement)

also I'd go with morgana's set, especially on a build like this where "to hit" is going to be an issue.

[Keylon]

grim's bracelet is too big to go on your ring finger btw. You can fit it over your head and wear it around your neck.

I'd go with scorched bracers (for the 3 set abishi set) and brawling gloves (+7 STR enhancement)

also I'd go with morgana's set, especially on a build like this where "to hit" is going to be an issue.

Can't do that unfortunately, I'd loose a lot of healing ability if I put in the Epic Red Dragon Helm, The torc stays on my neck all the time not gonna swap that out, I'd loose DPS if I swapped out the Epic Charged Gauntlets due to shocking blow, and I'd loose the 7 extra damage from Ravager if I put in something other than ravager belt.

[Keylon]

I'd suggest to be wisdom based. With appropriate gear you can get sufficient strength to contribute meaningful melee DPS and the boost to wisdom is worth much more for useful spell DCs.

Edit: Also, no point in having 2 slots dedicated to GS. Having Conc-opp HP goggles and then use another slot (like bracers, boots or gloves) for GS +150 SP airguard, +6 charisma skills item.

Finally, as human I wouldn't have WP:Greatsword at cap but rely on friendly MT, copping the -4 penalty or cakes.

You'd be surprised how few casters have MT, it really baffles me as to why, but I've given up on relying on them for buffs like that. Plus what if I'm soloing?

EDIT: great idea on the GS I never thought of that one.

[Raoull]

Edit: Also, no point in having 2 slots dedicated to GS. Having Conc-opp HP goggles and then use another slot (like bracers, boots or gloves) for GS +150 SP airguard, +6 charisma skills item.

I second this recommendation... sort of. Don't put the SP item on boots, bracers or the like.... got for Neck. You don't need to regain SP from your torc when you're near max. And when you're not near max, you don't need the extra max SP from the GreenSteel. Torc & GS SP Necklace have a nice synergy, only messed up if you want Torc SP regen at the same time you really need +6 UMD. But there's always something....

[morticianjohn]

Can't do that unfortunately, I'd loose a lot of healing ability if I put in the Epic Red Dragon Helm, The torc stays on my neck all the time not gonna swap that out, I'd loose DPS if I swapped out the Epic Charged Gauntlets due to shocking blow, and I'd loose the 7 extra damage from Ravager if I put in something other than ravager belt.

You may not understand what I was saying. In your post you have grim's bracelet in a ring slot. It can't go there.

While it may be possible to only miss on a 1 in all situations with this toon I simply don't see that happening with the current gear layout. This is why I think you should slot some +to hit items though I understand that it may come at a cost.

[Keylon]

You may not understand what I was saying. In your post you have grim's bracelet in a ring slot. It can't go there.

While it may be possible to only miss on a 1 in all situations with this toon I simply don't see that happening with the current gear layout. This is why I think you should slot some +to hit items though I understand that it may come at a cost.

D'oh yeah I didn't bother reading that Grim's is a necklace, I guess I'll have to use Epic Helm of the Red Dragon and ardor clickies to keep my STR high.

[voodoogroves]

Drop that DEX a bit; you don't need so much, do you?

If you don't want to put it in STR, CON or CHA, there's always INT ... because Teleport scrolls are better than walking.


You may also find the Deneith Heavy Chain is easier to make than the Infested.