Report on SWTOR -- not what ya think

[Malidane]

Report on SWTOR –

I have had the luck of being invited to the beta for this new and upcoming game that many may be thinking of migrating to. After putting this game under the microscope for a few days and really getting into it, I have a way to describe it – WOW with a Star Wars Theme. I have been able to get 2 toons to level 17 and there is no control over how your character develops and everything is based on gear.

I personally love DDO for the variety of ways you can totally customize a class(not to mention multi-classing and True Reincarnating) .. From the current fundamentals of SWTOR non of that is possible and will never be(No Enhancement/Feat like pools to choose from to separate your self from the rest). All might as well be clones. I know it’s Beta but fundamentals will not change and the release date is too close for changes.

It became boring and tedious after about one day of play – There are FLASH points in which a little movie like scenario is shown to address each situation, but how many times can you watch the same move over and over. If you wish to go and play WOW again – GOOD LUCK..

Much as I like Star Wars – I’m very disappointed they applied the kiddie/dumb version of MMO development to this..

My marks: 1-10

Graphics:7
Voice Acting: 8
Game Play: 5
Character development (for real players):2




…. If any of you have tried the beta … please comment


Long Live DDO … Just keep the updates coming and I better not see + 4 Tomes in the God forsaken DDO Store DEVS..

[Esserbe]

Surely no-one is surprised? Bioware's attempts at making RPG rulesets of their own have all fallen extremely flat, to expect them to make something inspired for a MMO is to expect far too much from such a mediocre developer.

It's World of Star Wars, nothing else.

[Pfold]

Just curious about a couple of things...


The lag, what is it like? I believe they have been doing stress tests on the servers. What's been your average ping?

The combat, is it twitch? What is it like?

How much content does there appear to be?

[Memnir]

No, that is exactly what I thought OR would be.

[Symar-FangofLloth]

no, That Is exactly What I Thought Or Would Be.

Qft

[learst]

Thanks for the review. Though I've to point out that this probably belongs in the Off-topic Chat section.

[Tocawe]

not what ya think

Wrong, it sounds almost exactly like what I thought .

But no character customization AT ALL? I thought they would give you at least some customization, something like the perk points or whatever they were called in WOW.

I guess the classes in the game are the standard 3 classes (Tank, DPS, Healer) with just a few different flavors?

[Auran82]

Wait, there's something in DDO other than casters and favored souls?

Since when?

[Afyndax]

You hit on one thing.. the cutscenes... but really didn´t mention the other big drag on the game.. travel times.

Honestly, the gameplay is just too slow and disjointed. You spend so much time watching movies, listening to long, drawn out quest givers (voice acting).. and then just traveling...

I actually played WOW until recently and enjoyed it for the most part (besides the endgame grind).. but I think even WOW players won´t like SWTOR just because of the pacing... WOW players are very used to getting to the action quick.

Many players will not like it because it is on rails (ala wow), but even more will like it because those rails are very slow.

[knightgf]

All that hype for nothing eh?

You'd be better off taking that money you'd spend on World of The Old Republic and using it to buy Mass Effect 3 when it is released. I would. Not a MMORPG of course, but still, a better space-theme game.

[Delt]

I don't see how SWTOR is ***anything*** like WoW. I mean...at all. If you want to have one legitimate slam on the game, it's that there is zero end game.

[Grenada]

That's at least a sign that not everyone is moving to SWTOR.

The only drop off in people is gonna happen in November now, AFAIK. (November 11, to be exact). And that will only last a few months.

[Krago]

I got to try it as well and it did seem a little flat in terms of character development, but DDO started out the same way as well.

It was enjoyable, but not enough to keep me from the Cove.

[Uska]

Just curious about a couple of things...


The lag, what is it like? I believe they have been doing stress tests on the servers. What's been your average ping?

The combat, is it twitch? What is it like?

How much content does there appear to be?

Combat is wow styled not ddo so no it isn't twitch

[Uska]

No, that is exactly what I thought OR would be.

Ditto I gave up on it a long time ago

[smatt]

Pretty much what I've heard from a couple in Beta..... Pretty mcuh what I expected.. It will be big because of the money and name behind it.. Then it will drop off....

DDO is it's own worst enemy.... Poor Producer leadership.... Adding so so content yet living with a game that overall is running like a 50 year old Ford Pinto...

[Vanquishedfo]

I do agree that SWTOR is wow with glowsticks. very sad waste of what should of been the next D20 MMO had they had the sense to use the same rules they had in KOTOR.

On the long live DDO note, you are net yet aware of the bigger picture and the near certainty DDO is done in 2014 i guess. Simply put thats the year Turbines lease on the D&D rights come up, WOTC is very unlikely to renew them as they are putting thier support behind the new 4E D&D mmo coming out by cryptic studios under the umbrella of Perfect World. Called Never Winter Nights Online its just simple logic with WOTC's history to expect them to deny turbine renewel and kill off DDO so NWNO wont have to compete with its older cousin.

This is why last year I put 400 into DDO in support and this year I wont spend a dime as the future has gone from hopeful to a near certain date of experation.

[Ruphus]

I do agree that SWTOR is wow with glowsticks. very sad waste of what should of been the next D20 MMO had they had the sense to use the same rules they had in KOTOR.

On the long live DDO note, you are net yet aware of the bigger picture and the near certainty DDO is done in 2014 i guess. Simply put thats the year Turbines lease on the D&D rights come up, WOTC is very unlikely to renew them as they are putting thier support behind the new 4E D&D mmo coming out by cryptic studios under the umbrella of Perfect World. Called Never Winter Nights Online its just simple logic with WOTC's history to expect them to deny turbine renewel and kill off DDO so NWNO wont have to compete with its older cousin.

This is why last year I put 400 into DDO in support and this year I wont spend a dime as the future has gone from hopeful to a near certain date of experation.

I would have to disagree, WOTC is a business, and if they can continue to milk a little more $$ out of old rules systems, by gosh they will. Will they openly support it and advertise and so forth? Probably not, but they will not turn down a nice, basically free, paycheck from something they do not have to put any real work into.

[broolthebeast]

as a fellow beta tester of TOR currently, and I've been playing for over a week now. Im absolutely in love with the game, and cant wait for launch. The comparison to wow, I do have to disagree with, but everyone's allowed their opinions. That being said we are still in a beta, and you might be in a different beta build than me for all I know, we are not getting the full version of TOR.

Im not going to say much, other than the combat is active and engaging. You are never in a 1v1 fight. The content is expansive and I've not ran a single quest more than 1 time in my current level up process. The story line is engaging, and yes I said story line when describing an mmo.

Do I think some things could be changed? yes
Have I voiced those opinions? yes, as have others.

Bioware has a history of making great games, and I expect TOR to be another hit in a long line of them. Who will be getting my money come 12/20/11? Bioware.

[Musouka]

I will say that it is a game. It's not for everyone. People used to the customization of characters here are probably going to have to invest more time into a different game to actually adapt to it. A few days just wont cut it, but it will give you a slice of what you are getting.

It's not WoW. It is TOR. There are similarities in every single game. Look at FPS games, how much different do those really get? Yet do you see people saying, OH it's just a MW Clone or Oh it's a Halo Clone?

Sure, it's not going to fit the style of play some people like, but that doesn't mean it is a fail of a game. The only way we'll ever tell if it is a good game is when the game launches and we see how their community grows and actually see how the game develops post launch. Only time will tell.

Also, this does belong in the off topic section.

I will also add. The current state of DDO and the amount of bugs that keep going unfixed, and the amount of lag that seems to get worse with each and every update, it will make it so easy to just leave it behind when TOR does come out.