Dwarf stunner. Does this look right?

[mikalandrs]

Ok I'm going to roll the monk a couple times as past lives so I wanted to try a stunning one to see how it goes. This is kind of raw at this point and is up for changes rather easily. I will explain some of my choices but I think I probably will be better off changing out a stance or 2 but here we go.

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Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(20 Monk) 
Hit Points: 382
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 17
Will: 21

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    18
Dexterity            16                    18
Constitution         16                    20
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom               16                    26
Charisma              6                     8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                    32
Bluff                -2                     0
Concentration         7                    36
Diplomacy            -2                    13
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle               -2                     0
Heal                  3                    11
Hide                  3                     5
Intimidate           -2                     2
Jump                  5                    26
Listen                3                     9
Move Silently         3                     5
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair               -1                     1
Search               -1                     3
Spot                  3                     9
Swim                  3                     5
Tumble                5                     7
Use Magic Device     n/a                    n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Luck of Heroes
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Soldier of the Faith
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light


Level 4 (Monk)


Level 5 (Monk)


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Sneak of Shadows
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 7 (Monk)


Level 8 (Monk)


Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Monk)


Level 11 (Monk)


Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 13 (Monk)


Level 14 (Monk)


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Monk)


Level 17 (Monk)


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Berserker's Fury


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Monk)
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II
Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise III
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise IV
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery III
Enhancement: Shintao Monk I
Enhancement: Shintao Monk II
Enhancement: Shintao Monk III
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Grandmaster of Storms
Enhancement: Master of Thunder
Enhancement: Adept of Rain
Enhancement: Grandmaster of Oceans
Enhancement: Master of the Sea
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration III
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom III

1. Dwarf for extra con and ability to go earth stance max without giving up allot.
2. Took water stances as filler and not entirely sure what the different stances offer.
3. Want to work primarily in wind stance for double strike capability to add to dps since str is a little low.
4. Making sure I have stun dc right and any way I can boost it
10 base +20 monk lvl +10 wraps +11 wis bonus= 51? +1 or 2 more if in water stance?
edit: 10 base +10 monk lvl +10 wraps +11 wis bonus=41 +x tactics +1or 2 water stance=44-45?
5. Im going to stick mostly with wraps so not sure if the whole twf line is necessary?

Any advice is appreciated this is a 36 point build as its part of a multiple tr I'm working on just trying to have fun the whole way through since I have quite a few lives to go.

Thanks for all the help

[Vellrad]

I'm no melee expert but I must say 2 things:
1. Dwarf is the master race.
2. Melee who brings some CC, and uses special attacks is gold.

So I support this build (or at least idea behind it )!

[DevHead]

Stunning Fist DC does not add full monk level to your DC. Pretty sure it's HALF monk level.

[SensaiRyu]

...
4. Making sure I have stun dc right and any way I can boost it
10 base +20 monk lvl +10 wraps +11 wis bonus= 51? +1 or 2 more if in water stance?

From ddowiki:
Well for SF... The DC = 10 + half Character level + Wisdom modifier + Stunning item bonus.
And for Kukando...DC = 10 + your monk level + Charisma Modifier + Stunning item bonus.

[fool101]

Stunning Fist DC does not add full monk level to your DC. Pretty sure it's HALF monk level.

I believe it has changed (U9 I think) to now be half the character level. Not monk level.

Doh, someone beat me

[Krago]

TWF line does improve your To-hit bonus. OSTW does nothing as your fists are light weapons.

The SF DC will disappoint as it will not land as often as you want on mobs other than casters.

[mikalandrs]

so if its half monk lvl then im looking at a 41 regular and 42 in water stance so thats not to bad but does dwarven tactics add to SF dc if so that might make a few changes to add to it looking at maybe a 44-45?

also if i go dark monk instead and use the other stunning effects available would that give me more options?

thanks again

[whomhead]

so if its half monk lvl then im looking at a 41 regular and 42 in water stance so thats not to bad but does dwarven tactics add to SF dc if so that might make a few changes to add to it looking at maybe a 44-45?

Yes, dwarven tactics (and WF tactics) do add to the stunning fist DC. Definitely worthwhile. Also, if you're just interested in a past life, to get the absolute most out of your stuns you could consider a 12 monk/ 8 fighter build. If you take stunning blow, then the stunning blow enhancements will also add to your stunning fist DC.

[mikalandrs]

actually going completionist to start so need to do the lvl 20 thing but will look into past life roll splits a bit later so thanks and that sounds like a good idea

[Jaid314]

so if its half monk lvl then im looking at a 41 regular and 42 in water stance so thats not to bad but does dwarven tactics add to SF dc if so that might make a few changes to add to it looking at maybe a 44-45?

also if i go dark monk instead and use the other stunning effects available would that give me more options?

thanks again

yes, dwarf tactics (and fighter tactics, and fighter past life) does add.

[mikalandrs]

ok another question does anyone know if the higher tier water stances add more to wis or does it just give me more water attacks?

since i will mainly be in wind stance I think my standing dc will only be 41 but if i drop water then it could be 43ish maybe more?

Also good to find out that fighter past lives work with this might reroll it later after i have a couple of those under my belt to see what i can max stun out at.

Would like to know do the past life feats make sense the paly, rogue, and barb was just thinking they might up damage but if there are feats that will help SF dc I would gladly swap them out.

And finally are there any specific rotations that might benifit this build ie add more stuns and maybe boost dps some?

Tanks again for all the advice