Feedback - Crafting - Update 10, Patch 1

[Eladiun]

/sarcasm (i'm just having fun at the idea that it won't be fixed before the patch goes live, no harm really meant lol)

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We have however, noticed a slight problem in our design. Due to an unfortunate oversight, elevators have not been implemented into this design. While the building will open for business on the first of the month, we will not be scheduling the new construction to install the elevators until we decide how beneficial they will be to you, as the employees and clients of this new building.

I assure you we have your best interests at heart and will someday hear back from us on whether or not elevators actually provide YOU, the customer, with a true benefit.

As an added gift for the inconvenience, we are giving all customers a free taco.


We appreciate all you do for us. We are a great company and you are great customers. Together we will be great!

-Building Corp. INC

MMMMMM..... Taco.

[Thrudh]

When you're trading in a Chattering Ring for a Greater Halfling Bane Shard, "success" rate kind of loses its meaning.

I LOLed...

[sweez]

Oddly, the +4 Unholy Cold Iron of Chaotic Outsider Bane weapons I've made are now much harder to make. And those are much less useful.

Eladrin beater?

[Asketes]

MMMMMM..... Taco.

I had Del Taco for lunch, it was fitting... and yummy

OM NOM NOM NOM

[Yaga_Nub]

When you're trading in a Chattering Ring for a Greater Halfling Bane Shard, "success" rate kind of loses its meaning.

Hey dkyle, you and I finally agree on something!

[Asketes]

Eladrin beater?

I made one

[Fourfingers]

Whooops. We clearly were out of line with several of these ingredients. Including items like Dreamspitter and Chattering Ring is an embarrasing error on our part and was in no way intentional.

Our motivation to add these extra ingredients (which was only made to a subset of recipes that concerned us) was to preserve and not devalue the efforts made by players to obtain many of the existing powerful named items in the game.

We will make changes. Unfortunately, they will not be made in time to alter the upcoming patch. As you know, the system is still in beta and we will effect changes as soon as we can.

Our apologies and thanks for the swift, clear feedback.

So what I can take away from this is once the patch makes it to Lamannia there is no way to change it - even if you were "clearly out of line" with "an embarrasing error"?

Pathetic.

[Veriden]

An odd thought just came to me...

"Even if they fix this now, they'll break it later anyhow."

So why prolong the inevitable? Let them destroy crafting and thus rid us of some of the lag of a million deconstruction machines being swiftly clicked 10 times per minute.

So release the patch to the purpose of 'fixing lag' and all will be well.

On a side note, I've depleted all of my crafting materials making shards for future characters/levels/lives. I'm content with 85 holy shards, 50 evil outsider bane shards, 50 +4 shards. (along with a handful of other useful things that I could make at arcane lvl 50 and elemental lvl 40)

I thank you for the release of the release notes giving me plenty of time to say **** you crafting, **** you.

As for the threats and attacks being met with disciplinary action, if forum posts make you feel threatened about your job. You're doing it wrong.

[Asketes]

So what I can take away from this is once the patch makes it to Lamannia there is no way to change it - even if you were "clearly out of line" with "an embarrasing error"?

Pathetic.

only when the error is not beneficial to players.

[Barazon]

I think Turbine needs to create a new job position: Director of Sensibility. The Director of Sensibility must review each proposed change and either accept it, or point out that the proposal is silly.

[theboyftw]

Another point I think has been missed completely is accessibility. I play in a small group and we don't do all the raids and we don't do epic content. Crafting reinvigorated the game for us because we could actually get weapons that were pretty good (not amazing, but pretty good) with out having to join in some bunch of zerg raid/epic groups. It's bad enough you're requiring items from all the different content (at least we own almost all of it, but many people do not) but it's all insanely difficult to get.

This isn't just the death of crafting, as far as my group is concerned, it's the death of the game.

second. not all of us do epics or raids. crafting gave us an option to get semi decent gear. we as a small guild have been crunching tons of gear that could have been sold for god only knows how much plat for a system that is no longer of any use to us. and we're not even close to cap yet...

[Victor_1]

Anyone else remember one of dev stated cannith crafting also designed to help new player while ago?
Saying "crafting would help new players to gearing their character as they level up" or something like that

[Postumus]

Whooops. We clearly were out of line with several of these ingredients. Including items like Dreamspitter and Chattering Ring is an embarrasing error on our part and was in no way intentional.

Does this mean NO raid loot will be included in the recipes, or only some raid loot other than the two mentioned above?


I join the other posters who question the point of the Lamannia server. If nothing can be changed, which I don't believe, than why bother inviting players to test it?

[Asketes]

I think Turbine needs to create a new job position: Director of Sensibility. The Director of Sensibility must review each proposed change and either accept it, or point out that the proposal is silly.

Ministry of Silly Walks, anyone?

[simo0208]

Yeah, apparently all new players have to run ALL necro plus catacombs on elite just to get the chance to craft holy and holy burst items...

[slimkj]

Only those players with near unlimited time and wealth will be able to and willing participate.

The ones least likely to need said items in the first place. ^^ x1000. Or more.

[Veriden]

I suddenly realize and understand their obsession with Xoriat here at turbine.

[ddoplayer064]

Even with the "unintentional" (LOL, right...) remark from Mad, all I have to say is:

<Will Smith> Aww, HELL NO </Will Smith>

And I just, like in yesterday, went ViP with the three month plan.

/sad panda

[Argantis]

I quesstion the motives of the Devs on this. As DDO grows older, and is nearing the end of the license agreement with WotC, just how ruthless will Turbine get with a mad dash for the cash grab?

Personally I have a sneaky suspicion that most of the crafting that is useful will require either A) an extreme and ridiculous amount of farming, or B) a spend of TP in the DDO Store.

I urge caution to the developers, Turbine has a pretty good reputation in the MMO community, please do not throw that all out the window for the sake of a short term profit margin. Soon you will be competing with newer, flashier games. Some will even carry a DnD label on their package. If you want DDO to live on, remember what gave life to a dying MMO before. The free to play model attracts new players and new revenue to the game. The "free" part I say with sarcasm, because we all know that sooner or later you spend some $$ on VIP or buying point bundles and going premium. While it is a good hook, and a bit of a gentle one, should it get to be more forceful you might be surprised at the consumer backlash.

[Kakashi67]

Do you know what's sadder?

This is really a melee nerf. Most, if not all, of these changes affect the banes and other weapon effects. I didn't see anything involving casting/skill/attribute effects.

Casters rule?