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    "Legolas was the son of Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm of Northern Mirkwood, who appears as "the Elvenking" in The Hobbit. Thranduil ruled over the Silvan Elves or "Wood-elves" of Mirkwood." -Wikipedia

    I would say it is entirely resonable for Legolas to appear in this movie. Never read Hobbit, but that is what fast googling got me.

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    If this tragedy happens I will not watch the movie.That's all,and all those that think Jackson is a genius might remember that he **** the ending of the trilogy,and that a wave of green paste won the battle at Pelennor fields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter_storm View Post
    Also the dwarfs was trying to get the treasure back, that kinda goes against the grain of a elf moral character if he joined the group. And what about the Number insisted by Gandalf of thirteen dwarfs "There must be 13" (the 13th was the hobbit by Gandalf's trickery).
    Actually, as I recall, that's kind of backwards - his trickery was that when he's around, there were 14 in the party, so as to avoid unlucky 13. But when he went off to have his own adventures... well, there were 12 dwarves and one hobbit, which doesn't really add up to unlucky 13.

    I think as long as Legolas is merely one of the Mirkwood elves when they're going through there, or possibly accompanying Gandalf on his sidequests, it will be just fine. And heck, showing up for the Battle of the Five Armies would be extremely doable as well. I can't see Jackson deciding to have Legolas tag along with Bilbo & Co.
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    yup. trusting peter jackson is seriously misguided. when you say 'his vision' of the trilogy, you're basing it on all the back-patting they did for each other in the special features. "oh yes, we completely re-invisioned the trilogy page by page and chapter by chapter to create the best screenplay ever written." PAH! In fact, his screenplay follows the Bakshi movies almost scene for scene. The entire reason for making lotr in PJ's mind, was to pump $300M into the NZ film industry. Do you really think it took a dozen real armorors to make 'real' plastic chainmail in order to add depth to the films? Do you think any of that tiny detail actually came through on screen? PuhlEEEEase! He just wanted to see J.Howe and A.Lee working for HIM, the gradeur-deluded gasbag. The best thing PJ ever did was Frightners, and he sure as heck shoulda stopped there. Anyone see Kong? I mean, does the guy have even ONE ORIGINAL thought left in his cheeseburger-addled head?
    The books were excellent, timeless, thematically relevant works of art. The PJ movies were a travesty. I refuse to give PJ and his ilk another dime. And if you try to tell me that there's always a disconnect between a book and it's film adaptation, and that PJ's attempt is the best possible (re)telling of the story in a visual medium, I'll tell you that if that's the case, then LotR should never have been attempted. You don't see anyone trying to adapt Xanth do you? Simply not possible. Shanara? nope. Belgariad/Malloreon? Better not. (Take Sparhawk if you want, he'd make a fine movie) Tolkien? "Caution: Genius. Do Not Attempt".
    Of course, he'll win another mitfull of oscars, sending the message that it doesn't have to be good, it just has to be hype-able. Tell the public you're going to make a half billion dollar adaptation of someone else's classic work and you're sure to get them to the box office.
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    I'm guessing that Mr. Bloom suddenly realized the payday he missed by not doing the latest Pirates of the Caribbean... Gotta do something to stay in that lofty tax bracket.

    Tell you the honest truth, I've never been one to get too hung up on a movie being perfectly faithful- or not- to the book upon which it was based, so long as the story was good. If the appearance of Legolas in "The Hobbit" advances the story in a creative way, then I'm good with it.

    The one exception to that is war movies. Bugs the absolute living crud out of me to see an anachronism in a war movie. My wife won't watch them with me anymore, as she knows that I will mercilessly critique them.

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    Galadriel and Saruman are going to be in it too probably when Gandalf and the White Council go to remove the evil from Dol Guldur (not in the book, but hinted at and chronicled in the Silmarillion). As stated above, Legolas will probably appear at the Battle of Five Armies as the king wouldn't go to war without his son. I'll withhold judgement until I see the movies, but to be honest I'm not expecting much in the way of faithfulness anymore. The suits are calling the shots on this one and the fact that they will be in 3D only makes me cringe more.
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    Jackson should do some of the other books by Tolk..Like Farmer Giles of Hamm....cast that one...As far as Bloom he will find something or something will find him...Or Jackson should do something a bit grimm like the Deathdealer series...or dare I say a pnp dnd module or book....Ravenloft mayhaps..Dragonlance series..or even a Dark Sun type setting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ookami_Tez View Post
    "Legolas was the son of Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm of Northern Mirkwood, who appears as "the Elvenking" in The Hobbit. Thranduil ruled over the Silvan Elves or "Wood-elves" of Mirkwood." -Wikipedia

    I would say it is entirely resonable for Legolas to appear in this movie. Never read Hobbit, but that is what fast googling got me.
    When the dwarves get lost in Mirkwood and interrupt the elven feast, it actually a feast to honor the Prince. That would most likely be Legolas, since there is no mention that he had siblings. So, it's possible for Legolas to have a fairly sizable role without having to travel with Bilbo and the dwarves. It would be logical for him to be at the feast and be involved with the imprisonment of the dwarves. Thranduil rode to war in the Battle of Five Armies and it could also be assumed that the Prince (Legolas) would have ridden with him, since that is the tradition established by Tolkien throughout his writings on Middle-Earth.

    Don't forget that there are two movies, and to the best of my understanding only the first film will deal with the actual events detailed in "The Hobbit". The second film will cover the events that occurred after the BoFA, but before the the beginning of "The Fellowship of the Ring". These events are detailed in "The Silmarillian" and "Unfinished Tales" as well as being alluded to throughout "The Lord of the Rings".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ookami_Tez View Post
    "Legolas was the son of Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm of Northern Mirkwood, who appears as "the Elvenking" in The Hobbit. Thranduil ruled over the Silvan Elves or "Wood-elves" of Mirkwood." -Wikipedia

    I would say it is entirely resonable for Legolas to appear in this movie. Never read Hobbit, but that is what fast googling got me.
    Quote Originally Posted by blkcat1028 View Post
    When the dwarves get lost in Mirkwood and interrupt the elven feast, it actually a feast to honor the Prince. That would most likely be Legolas, since there is no mention that he had siblings. So, it's possible for Legolas to have a fairly sizable role without having to travel with Bilbo and the dwarves. It would be logical for him to be at the feast and be involved with the imprisonment of the dwarves. Thranduil rode to war in the Battle of Five Armies and it could also be assumed that the Prince (Legolas) would have ridden with him, since that is the tradition established by Tolkien throughout his writings on Middle-Earth.
    This and This.

    Or maybe he returned with Gandalf after the 'side errands'?
    Not sure what elves joined the wizards on that task, think was Galadriel.
    Hope it is well depicted and maybe we get to see Radagast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.Ogre View Post
    yup. trusting peter jackson is seriously misguided. when you say 'his vision' of the trilogy, you're basing it on all the back-patting they did for each other in the special features. "oh yes, we completely re-invisioned the trilogy page by page and chapter by chapter to create the best screenplay ever written." PAH! In fact, his screenplay follows the Bakshi movies almost scene for scene. The entire reason for making lotr in PJ's mind, was to pump $300M into the NZ film industry. Do you really think it took a dozen real armorors to make 'real' plastic chainmail in order to add depth to the films? Do you think any of that tiny detail actually came through on screen? PuhlEEEEase! He just wanted to see J.Howe and A.Lee working for HIM, the gradeur-deluded gasbag. The best thing PJ ever did was Frightners, and he sure as heck shoulda stopped there. Anyone see Kong? I mean, does the guy have even ONE ORIGINAL thought left in his cheeseburger-addled head?
    The books were excellent, timeless, thematically relevant works of art. The PJ movies were a travesty. I refuse to give PJ and his ilk another dime. And if you try to tell me that there's always a disconnect between a book and it's film adaptation, and that PJ's attempt is the best possible (re)telling of the story in a visual medium, I'll tell you that if that's the case, then LotR should never have been attempted. You don't see anyone trying to adapt Xanth do you? Simply not possible. Shanara? nope. Belgariad/Malloreon? Better not. (Take Sparhawk if you want, he'd make a fine movie) Tolkien? "Caution: Genius. Do Not Attempt".
    Of course, he'll win another mitfull of oscars, sending the message that it doesn't have to be good, it just has to be hype-able. Tell the public you're going to make a half billion dollar adaptation of someone else's classic work and you're sure to get them to the box office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaisMatters View Post
    That's right folks. Even though his character Legolas wasn't in the original book, seems Peter Jackson in making some modifications.

    http://www.imdb.com/news/ni11077900/

    I'm not sure how I feel about this. This seems to be Hollywood wanting more sex appeal. Though I do trust Peter Jackson and his vision for Middle Earth.

    What do you think?

    /discuss
    As I say 'In Belichick I trust' same with Jackson and LoTR. He is a big fan of the books and has gone though alot to get the Hobbit rolling. No I dont like that Legolas will be in it, but I trust Jackson to do the Hobbit right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaisMatters View Post
    That's right folks. Even though his character Legolas wasn't in the original book, seems Peter Jackson in making some modifications.

    http://www.imdb.com/news/ni11077900/

    I'm not sure how I feel about this. This seems to be Hollywood wanting more sex appeal. Though I do trust Peter Jackson and his vision for Middle Earth.

    What do you think?

    /discuss
    Two things:

    First; I am SOOOO glad to hear Peter Jackson is on board with this...

    (Though, he did hose over poor Tom Bombadil... Tom gets forgotten again...)

    Second; and more to the point...

    It would not take much to "Add" Legolas to "The Hobbit".

    True, he was not mentioned I the Book. Not by name that is...
    But remember, the Dwarves and Bilbo did have a run in with the elves of Mirkwood forest.
    After their encounter with the spiders... In Fact, in the Book, Legolas talks at length with Gimli
    About taking him to see the Mirkwood after everything is over...

    So it is entirely possible that Legolas could have been there.
    And it would make alot more sense why he would have been so quick to help Frodo.
    (He would have known of the ring, and known that Bilbo had it before, (and all of the trouble it caused)
    and he would have wanted to get rid of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illiain View Post
    I agree. It's been ages since I've read the book, but he was the Prince of Mirkwood, correct? The dwarves were brought before the king of Mirkwood, correct?

    If those are true, then there should be no issue with him being in and around Mirkwood, especially in any throne room scenes, as long as any lines he has don't detract from the basic story. It would actually help solidify the continuity of the world.
    He'll probably speak for the elves... interrogate the dwarves for his father.

    He can also show up at the Battle of the Five Armies, with some butt-kicking action goodness...

    Legolas in the Hobbit is not a real problem, as long as PJ is careful
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    Oh, and I really can't wait to see Smaug on the big screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.Ogre View Post
    The PJ movies were a travesty.
    I think he did very well... Probably better than most directors would have done...

    The only line I really wanted and missed in LOTR was Sam telling Shelob "Come and taste it again!" (speaking about his sword after he had already stabbed Shelob once)..

    I loved that part of the book...
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