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    Community Member mwgarn's Avatar
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    Ok so my first wizard was a wf pm with enchant focus to back him up. I really like playing him but I could only get his necro dc to 39 and half the time he didn't seam to get past the spell resistance of the higher level mobs with out having to cast neg lvls on it first in higher end content, amreth and tod, epics... And with the cool downs being made so long with no hope of them ever going back down I decided to tr. My problem now is how many times should I tr to get spell pen and dcs high enough? (dc could be high enough this life if I farm out +4 tome +7 epic and +3 tod but spell pen Would be 27 and I was told the orthons in tod last fight has a dc 32 so the closer I can get the better.)

    Here is what I'm thinking sorry if the formatting is strange I'm on my iPad, the idea is to have a necro wiz with enough spell pen and dc to work in epic level content, planing on tr ing as soon as I hit lvl 20 for each life. I take mental toughness because I like wraith form for sneaking through some quest.. Can probably switch it out though and just get sneak gear..

    First life warforged
    Feats
    1 toughness
    1w maximize
    3 mental toughness
    5w extend
    6 sf:enchant
    9 sf:necro
    10w empower
    12 gsf:necro
    15 spell pen
    15w quicken
    18 gsf:enchant
    20 heighten

    Spell pen 25 no items

    Int
    Base 18
    Lvls 5
    Item 6
    Exc 2 (eyeglass)
    Tome 2
    Enhan 3
    Guild 0
    Pot 0
    Lich form 2
    Total 38
    Mod +14

    Necro dc
    Int 14
    Lvl 20
    Sf 1
    Gsf 1
    Lich 1
    Item 2
    Total necro dc 39
    Enchant dc 37 (-2 for lich int and dc)

    second life drow
    Feats
    1 toughness
    1w extend
    3 pl:wiz
    5w maximize
    6 sf:necro
    9 m tough
    10w empower
    12 gsf:necro
    15 spell pen
    15w quicken
    18 sf:enchant
    20 heighten

    Spell pen 27 no items

    Int
    Base 20
    Lvls 5
    Item 6
    Exc 2 (eyeglass)
    Tome 2
    Enhan 3
    Guild 2
    In a guild now, hopefully will have a +2 int shrine soon, even if I have to get a gold seal one.
    Pot 0
    Lich form 2
    Total 42
    Mod +16

    Necro dc
    Int 16
    Lvl 20
    Sf 1
    Gsf 1
    Lich 1
    Item 2
    Total necro dc 42
    Enchant dc 40 (-2 for lich int and dc)

    Third life drow
    Feats
    1 toughness
    1w extend
    3 pl:wiz
    5w maximize
    6 sf:necro
    9 insightful reflex
    10w empower
    12 gsf:necro
    15 m toughness
    15w quicken
    18 sf:enchant
    20 heighten

    Spell pen 27 no items

    Int
    Base 20
    Lvls 5
    Item 6
    Exc 2 (eyeglass)
    Tome 2
    Enhan 3
    Guild 2
    In a guild now, hopefully will have a +2 int shrine soon, even if I have to get a gold seal one.
    Pot 0
    Lich form 2
    Total 42
    Mod +16

    Necro dc
    Int 16
    Lvl 20
    Sf 1
    Gsf 1
    Lich 1
    Item 2
    Total necro dc 42
    Enchant dc 40 (-2 for lich int and dc)

    final life drow
    Feats
    1 toughness
    1w extend
    3 pl:wiz
    5w maximize
    6 sf:necro
    9 insightful reflex
    10w empower
    12 gsf:necro
    15 m toughness
    15w quicken
    18 sf:enchant
    20 heighten

    Spell pen 29 no items 3xwizard past life

    Int
    Base 20
    Lvls 5
    Item 7 epic int item
    Exc 3 tod
    Tome 4 farm away
    Enhan 3
    Guild 2
    In a guild now, hopefully will have a +2 int shrine soon, even if I have to get a gold seal one.
    Pot 2 favor farm
    Lich form 2
    Total 48
    Mod +19

    Necro dc
    Int 19
    Lvl 20
    Sf 1
    Gsf 1
    Lich 1
    Item 2
    Total necro dc 45
    Enchant dc 43 (-2 for lich int and dc)

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    Yup, you're crazy.

    The question you should be asking yourself though is if you'll have fun doing it
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    Community Member mwgarn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazyfruit View Post
    Yup, you're crazy.

    The question you should be asking yourself though is if you'll have fun doing it

    Thank you, that is what I needed to hear! Will be setting my plan in motion then should be fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwgarn View Post
    Ok so my first wizard was a wf pm with enchant focus to back him up. I really like playing him but I could only get his necro dc to 39 and half the time he didn't seam to get past the spell resistance of the higher level mobs with out having to cast neg lvls on it first in higher end content, amreth and tod, epics...
    ...
    Just wanted to point out that Enervation/Energy Drain only affects their saves, not their Spell Resistance.

    Quote Originally Posted by mwgarn View Post
    ...
    Spell pen 29 no items 3xwizard past life
    ...
    up to 3 more from enhancements (probably only afford the first 2)
    3 Greater Spell Pen IX (let's just pretend for simplicity)
    Total Spell Pen: 35

    For epic drow, that would mean you'd fail to penetrate their SR about 50% of the time (level 35 + 10 for Drow SR)

    That's a huge improvement compared to the 95% failure without the 3 past lives. However, you might want to consider trading +1 of your DCs for +4 to Spell Penetration by switching from Drow to Elf. Just a thought...

    Quote Originally Posted by mwgarn View Post
    ...

    Int
    Base 20
    Lvls 5
    Capstone 2
    Item 7 epic int item
    Exc 3 tod
    Tome 4 farm away
    Enhan 3
    Guild 2
    In a guild now, hopefully will have a +2 int shrine soon, even if I have to get a gold seal one.
    Pot 2 favor farm
    Lich form 2
    Total 50
    Mod +20

    Necro dc
    Base 10
    Int 20
    Spell Lvl 9
    Sf 1
    Gsf 1
    Lich 1
    Item 2
    Total necro dc 44

    Enchant dc
    Base 10
    Int 20
    Spell Lvl 9
    Sf 1
    Item 2
    Total Enchant dc 42
    ...
    Changed some calculations in red just to help clarify where everything is coming from. Not a big change, though.
    "I require a reminder as to why raining arcane destruction is not an appropriate response to all of life's indignities" - Vaarsuvius, OoTS #674

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