build request: tanking cleric

[sultro]

i was thinking of doing my cleric life on my completionist as a tank. considering something along the lines of dwarven cleric 14/fighter6 with the stalwart defender pe. and the dwarf shield blocking enhancements. build would be 36 pt with the following past life feats. fighter, barb, wiz, sorc. plenty of good equip to choose from, just build it how you think best, and i'll get/substitute as needed before i rein. would like to see what the max dr is on a build like this. as i will be reincarnating soon after attaining 20th level, focus should be on ability to play at each level, not on final build. please do not include level 20 equipment.

[Raoull]

When I saw your post it was right beneath the Valiance 2.0 post. Read up on that one, it can serve as a high AC (if you have the gear) intimitank.

[sultro]

hmmm, almost all 20th level gear, no dr whatsoever. thats exactly what i said i didn't want. not that its not a great epic build. but since the character will, in all likelihood, be 20th level for an hour, its not really an appropriate switch. add to that one of the specific reasons i didn't say ac was i don't want to farm a chattering ring.

[erikbozelie]

my work in progress here

just fit in intimidate.

somewhere around the lines of:
23 ranks
15 item.
4 GH
2 boost
5 charisma
5 shroud item
2 luck
--------
56 easy.

with the ac of that toon, it wont be hit anymore.


well ac doesnt matter in the endgame right?
combat log:

Saligia misses you!
Arraetrikos misses you!


tod:
The Jailer misses you!
The Judge misses you!
Nythirios misses you!
Horoth misses you!
Suulomades misses you!

reaver:
Stormreaver misses you!

only things able to hit me, are the shadows in tod, and epic trash ( not bosses for some reason).

edit: only thing is an way how to fit intimidate in there. thats the hardest thing

[sultro]

well, i tried. but unfortunately, you can't edit the post title. would love to make it build request DR cleric

[pie2655]

erik that build is crazy! If i had monk i would definately try that out!

[erikbozelie]

erik that build is crazy! If i had monk i would definately try that out!

thanks for the compliment, loving the build so far, even can do epic traps with an +3 guild aug.

sultro,
for DR is something around:

Active Melee DR = (BAB / 2) + 2 + Shield DR rating + Shield Mastery Feats + Shield Mastery Enhancements

so for an cleric with DP: (20 / 2) + 2 + 7(light and darkness) + 6 + 3 = 28DR for 2 feats and 6AP?
ramp it up with some pasive DR and your good. most bosses will hit for 40+ dmg.

reducing these hits to 10 is enough for the aura ticks to keep you up.

if you got favorite soul thats good to look in too, they can get +15 pasive as wf?

[erikbozelie]

dr 49 in action

[bryanmeerkat]

Half Elf Monk 2 Fighter 1 Cleric 18

str 14
dex 15
con 14
int 12
wis 16+5
cha 10

Intimidate , UMD and Concentration . and excess in balance /jump etc

+2 tomes all round if you have them

f1 power attack
m1 toughness
m2 2 weapon fighter

1 Khopesh
3 Maximise
6 Empower Healing Spell
9 improved 2 weapon fighting
12 Quicken
15 greater 2 weapon fighting
18 Extend

HE Barbie Dili

Monk at 1 Fighter at 2 Monk at 15 or 9 depending on pref .

Radiant Servant 2 and all prerequisits , HE Barbie dili improved , any others you like

Once you have RS2 keep the aura running all the time it will tick for enough to mitigate most incoming damage

At low levels you wont really need to tank , but keeping your ac up to make it possible with Plate and Shield is easy enough at lower levels .
Then you can switch to the Monk goodness at higher levels

Items for using when switching to monk AC

GS Insight weapon
Icy Raimaints
Armoured Bracers at appropraite levels
+6 dex item
GS conc opp item
chattering ring

other stuff you might like to have

mabar cloak at lv 12 and 16
sora kell set . (upgraded if you like , both if you can bothered)
Min2 greensteel item HP or SP cloak/goggles (sp will have +5 cha skills)
conc oppostion GS item HP or SP cloak/goggles (SP will have +5 cha skills)
torc

At work so may have overlooked the obvious >.>

[sultro]

thanks erik, thats an awesome video. fvs kinda defeats the purpose, as it will not fulfill the cleric requirement for completionist, but youve still given me hope. i'm confused about what will and won't stack though. for instance, stalwart defender adds dr 2/- i know that should stack in pnp rules, but i didn't think it did in ddo. so am i fine with just taking umd and using stoneskin wands for dr 10/magic? would stalwart defender stack with that? i really don't get what does and does not stack with dr.

[erikbozelie]

at first glance, DR wont stack.

only pasive, and active DR.

pasive being barbarian DR,adamantine armor DR, bloodrage symbiot, warforged DR, and fvs soul DR.(only fvs and wf dt stacks here)
active DR means blocking, standard 2DR. ( shield greatly improves this). this can be raised by the dwarven shield enhancements, and by 2 feats( +6 DR total).

for example with an bloodrage symbiot = DR 5 / - added. means youll end up at an DR of 33-ish. enough to tank sully for example.... i am not sure about horoth tho.

[erikbozelie]

you might wanna look into the docent of defience (spelling?).
heard non-wf can activate it too for DR30/- base or something.

together with.. another item i cant recall (sorry), it adds up to about an DR of 50-ish pasive.. i dont know which ones.. guildy said something like this yesterday.

[unbongwah]

I'm kinda hoping Dwarven Defender gets added, so I can dust off this build and combine DD w/Radiant Servant on an Intimitanking cleric. Originally the idea was to go for good AC as well, but now I'm wondering if shield-blocking is the new AC.

[erikbozelie]

I'm kinda hoping Dwarven Defender gets added, so I can dust off this build and combine DD w/Radiant Servant on an Intimitanking cleric. Originally the idea was to go for good AC as well, but now I'm wondering if shield-blocking is the new AC.

in epic it is

[sultro]

I'm kinda hoping Dwarven Defender gets added, so I can dust off this build and combine DD w/Radiant Servant on an Intimitanking cleric. Originally the idea was to go for good AC as well, but now I'm wondering if shield-blocking is the new AC.

thats the second time i've noticed someone mention dwarven defender being added. maybe i'll put cleric on the back burner until the next couple updates are out and see if they put it in. would make a 17/2/1 build look a lot more attractive then. one melee life in between should be more than enough time for at least one update, and probably 2 at the rate i level.

[unbongwah]

FYI, I think Turbine first put DD and other racial PrEs on their to-do list over two years ago; so far elven AA is the only one they've done. So, y'know, I wouldn't hold my breath or anything.

[Raoull]

hmmm, almost all 20th level gear, no dr whatsoever. thats exactly what i said i didn't want. not that its not a great epic build. but since the character will, in all likelihood, be 20th level for an hour, its not really an appropriate switch. add to that one of the specific reasons i didn't say ac was i don't want to farm a chattering ring.

Sorry, I was just trying to lead you toward the vague generalities of that build. I don't usually pay much attention to the gear in builds myself, just what they're aiming for.

But an intimidating clonk could work. I run a clonk (no intim though) and have a useful AC without a chattering ring. Dex/Wis plus the Fens AC set, an Icy Raiment, chaosguard and a Mabar cloak (plus barkskin pots and shield lvl 5 wands when I go all out). Nothing with too horrific a grind (although Mabar cloak is only from an event). It isn't like things miss me on a 19, but I get more misses than blurries (which I believe are 20% of attacks) even in pretty high level content (shroud flagging, DA elite). If I had more wis and CE it would be much better. Sure, chattering is great but it isn't like you can't get a useful AC without it, especially if you're not concerned with lvl 20. Don't listen to those who think mobs need to miss on a 19 for your AC to be useful. If you can make them miss you 20% of the time, that's useful. If they miss you on a 19 that's freaking awesome.

Not that DR isn't also good... I love my DR 5 trinket... but other than a DR5 item, there isn't much to aim for to get more DR (short of a lvl 20 FS or monk). I guess a shield blocking intim tank could work, but you have to stop blocking to do both the intim and to heal.