Handwraps + THF?

[Gadren]

So, someone in the marketplace was insisting that both Two Weapon Fighting and Two-Handed Fighting feats work with hand wraps.
I had never heard this before (that THF works with wraps), and was a bit skeptical. I've been searching the forums for confirmation, but found none.
Is someone trying to pull my chain, or does Two-Handed Fighting working with handwraps?

Thanks in advance.

[sirdanile]

THF should not be working with handwraps in game.
In pnp you could take feats that let you use your fists as a two handed weapon if I remember correctly.

[NeutronStar]

TWF feats work with Handwraps. THF feats do not.

There are no official 3.5 feats in PnP that allow Unarmed Strike to work like a two-handed weapon either.

[donfilibuster]

Pondering, if there were feetwraps could those be used with THF for roundhouse kicking?

[Neversignup]

Pondering, if there were feetwraps could those be used with THF for roundhouse kicking?

You'll have to ask Mr. Norris for the final say on that matter

[aradelothion]

You'll have to ask Mr. Norris for the final say on that matter

Unfortunately, I believe he has left the game after he achieved completionist. In 2006.

[Alexandryte]

A double punch with both hands simultaneously is known as a shove; effective for parting crowds but little else barring a dangerous environment.





Moral of the story: THF is useless for monks who like to get in there fists flying. It is, however, useful to staff wielding monks.

[DigitalNikos]

But I have "two hands" and Im using them as "two weapons" thus I should be able to utilize both!!!

[Dcloak]

Unfortunately, I believe he has left the game after he achieved completionist. In 2006.

Funny +1 Chuck Norris references never get old.

[NXPlasmid]

But I have "two hands" and Im using them as "two weapons" thus I should be able to utilize both!!!

No, you have one weapon per hand, even if you were to grab one hand with the other and use it to smack mobs around that would still be using your other hand as a one-handed weapon.

[Sani_Medicor]

No, you have one weapon per hand, even if you were to grab one hand with the other and use it to smack mobs around that would still be using your other hand as a one-handed weapon.

Then you should be able to buy individual handwraps for each hand to mix and match. As it stands, it arms both hands with "one weapon" just like other thf weapons. It's also stupid that you have to take off your handwraps to use a wand or scroll. By the way, I'm slamming the devs here for poor implementation more than replying to your post.

[dkyle]

It's also stupid that you have to take off your handwraps to use a wand or scroll.

Why does it matter? It's not like you can actually make effective unarmed attacks while wielding wands or scrolls, anyway.

[NXPlasmid]

Then you should be able to buy individual handwraps for each hand to mix and match. As it stands, it arms both hands with "one weapon" just like other thf weapons. It's also stupid that you have to take off your handwraps to use a wand or scroll. By the way, I'm slamming the devs here for poor implementation more than replying to your post.

Incorrect, it arms each hand with identical weapons.

[Sirea]

Incorrect, it arms each hand with identical weapons.

Exactly, handwraps are like getting two weapons for the price of one.

[nanobot1994]

Incorrect, it arms each hand with identical weapons.

Actually, he didnt say that you are able to mix and match but should be able to.

[NXPlasmid]

As it stands, it arms both hands with "one weapon" just like other thf weapons.

Actually, he didnt say that you are able to mix and match but should be able to.

Ahem... THF arms one weapon in both hands...

[dkyle]

Ahem... THF arms one weapon in both hands...

I think he's saying that it should be either TWF feat chain with two separate weapons, or THF feat chain with a single weapon. TWF feats applying to a single weapon doesn't make much sense.

On the other hand, I don't look at handwraps as being actual weapons. They're items that occupy both weapon slots that enchant the monk's body, which is why they apply to kicks as well as punches. TWF makes sense as Two (or more) Weapon Fighting, where the monks hands and feat are the weapons, not the handwraps.

[NXPlasmid]

I think he's saying that it should be either TWF feat chain with two separate weapons, or THF feat chain with a single weapon. TWF feats applying to a single weapon doesn't make much sense.

On the other hand, I don't look at handwraps as being actual weapons. They're items that occupy both weapon slots that enchant the monk's body, which is why they apply to kicks as well as punches. TWF makes sense as Two (or more) Weapon Fighting, where the monks hands and feat are the weapons, not the handwraps.

Oh I know what he's saying, and however one wants to think of it, your description seems particularly eloquent, there is no point in discussing whether THF or TWF should be applied to unarmed combat or whether each hand should should be able to apply a different magical effect via a handwrap. Unarmed fighting is neither TWF nor is it THF, however I understand the dev's decision to use existing code rather than develop new code to provide the same combat benefit specifically for monk's unarmed combat.

The THF argument has no merit.

[donfilibuster]

THF would make sense on something like judo or sumo wrestling.
But this isn't a martial arts game, d&d monks can do well with smack-fu.

[tgun]

A double punch with both hands simultaneously is known as a shove; effective for parting crowds but little else barring a dangerous environment.

I quoted your post because i misread it at first and was gonna offer a slight correction. But after rereading it I'd agree but would still like to add this.

A single punch with both hands clasped together is known as a haymaker and is very effective for finishing someone off or just laying on a little more pain, just ask Spiderman...