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    Smile Please, Feedback on Build

    Hey guys, thanks for reading, I've finally came up with a build, but I want some feedback, it is my first build so pls just tell me what i need to do, so i can fix it here, and not gimp myself, endgame
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    Gruumsch 
    Level 20 Chaotic Neutral Half-Orc Male
    (2 Fighter \ 18 Barbarian) 
    Hit Points: 378
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
    Fortitude: 18
    Reflex: 9
    Will: 6
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             20                    30
    Dexterity            15                    17
    Constitution         15                    19
    Intelligence          6                     8
    Wisdom                8                    10
    Charisma              6                     8
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               4                    14
    Bluff                -2                    -1
    Concentration         2                     4
    Diplomacy            -2                    -1
    Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
    Haggle               -2                    -1
    Heal                 -1                     0
    Hide                  2                     3
    Intimidate           -2                    -1
    Jump                  9                    33
    Listen               -1                     0
    Move Silently         2                     3
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform              n/a                   n/a
    Repair               -2                    -1
    Search               -2                    -1
    Spot                 -1                     0
    Swim                  5                    20
    Tumble                n/a                   4
    Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a
    
    Level 1 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 2 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 4 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 5 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 6 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    
    
    Level 7 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 8 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 9 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 11 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 12 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 14 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 15 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 17 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 18 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
    
    
    Level 19 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 20 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Quick Draw
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost IV
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Improved Damage Reduction I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage III
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage IV
    Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker III
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
    Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I
    Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost I
    Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost II
    Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
    Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
    Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack II
    Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack III
    Enhancement: Orcish Power Rage I
    Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
    Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I
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    Drop you Dex and up your con to 16 if your not going TWF. No Intimidate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaisMatters View Post
    No Intimidate?
    no, but he's a good swimmer. he can swim circles around the trash to annoy em...
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    I thought intimidate was just for tanks o.O
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    Quote Originally Posted by techguru View Post
    I thought intimidate was just for tanks o.O
    Yes and no. Firstly, you are a tank, get used to it . But you are a hate tank, and with a 6 cha it will be hard to get a good intim, I would pass on it.

    Dont put any points into swim, its not really useful in the game. Also, Id stop putting points into jump after about 10 or so. There is a hard cap at 40, so anything beyond that is worthless. When you are raged you are going to far surpass 40, so those points are a bit useless. I'd put all those extra points into Spot, although Listen would be good. I dont notice the red blip from listen, and its easier to fit a +10 or so spot item in. Also keeps me from finding all the traps with my face.

    Lower Dex, 16 con for sure.
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    Thank you for the feedback, you all have greatly helped me, thank you
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    Do barbs make good hate tanks? I've seen some WF barbs do VoD well, but most often, it's not

    I thought we let the pallies do that, and we just kill the mob while it's fixated on the pallie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khanyth View Post
    Do barbs make good hate tanks?
    Barbarians are awesome hate tanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpone View Post
    Barbarians are awesome hate tanks.
    Is it an acquired skill? Because so many barbs are really really really bad at it.

    Unless I'm confusing "hate tank" with "intimitank"? Which is the one where the tank goes into the corner with the boss in VoD, keeps its attention, and the rest of the group pounds on it with its back turned
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    also, which is better Chaotic Neutral or True Neutral??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khanyth View Post
    Is it an acquired skill? Because so many barbs are really really really bad at it.

    Unless I'm confusing "hate tank" with "intimitank"? Which is the one where the tank goes into the corner with the boss in VoD, keeps its attention, and the rest of the group pounds on it with its back turned
    Doing anything well in ddo is an acquired skill, but barbs are not difficult to make into a good hate tank.

    I ran the numbers on building an intimitank barb and decided it would be to much work (ie grind) to make one with a high enough intim to matter in the content where I could not hate tank it. Both can make a guy stand in a corner with everyone else behind it.


    I went chaotic neutral, just cause I feel thats how barbs would be. Dont think there is much difference between the two neutrals. For a new barb you might wanna consider good as well, then you can use a pure good weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khanyth View Post
    Is it an acquired skill? Because so many barbs are really really really bad at it.

    Unless I'm confusing "hate tank" with "intimitank"? Which is the one where the tank goes into the corner with the boss in VoD, keeps its attention, and the rest of the group pounds on it with its back turned
    Could be either, but most likely hate tanking.

    You aren't alone. I've encountered many barbarians that can't tank because they lack the incite+dps to hold aggro, or they simply don't understand how to position mobs, like your VoD example.
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