Harry Potter "mudblood" confusion.

[Timber]

Now having recently watched the 7 movie, I found myself stumped at the term "mud-blood". Now I'm familiar enough with Harry Potter to know what this means. But my confusion comes in with the children of every wizarding family being able to cast magic, even their children and their children's children and so on. Since certain wizards' refer to themselves as purebloods and the fact that the sons and daughters of wizards can use magic. Magic has to be something to do with the blood. So obviously if you can cast magic you have funky/abnormal blood. So really all you need to cast magic is funky blood. So isn't every wizard a mudblood?

[Nysrock]

Well since I am sitting at work atm I have not had nearly enough to drink to think that deep about Harry Potter. Try me later when I'm home and a few beers into it.

[ekniff]

I'm confused.

What you're saying is:
1) Ability to cast magic is hereditary
-not really, squibs
2) Certain wizards refer to themselves as pureblood, and their children can use magic
-yes, but not always (see 1)
3) ???
4) Every wizard is mudblood! (Or, alternatively, PROFIT!)

is that right?

[Timber]

I'm confused.

What you're saying is:
1) Ability to cast magic is hereditary
-not really, squibs
2) Certain wizards refer to themselves as pureblood, and their children can use magic
-yes, but not always (see 1)
3) ???
4) Every wizard is mudblood! (Or, alternatively, PROFIT!)

is that right?

Yes and no. I'm saying that perhaps it formed as some mutation in the blood which usually passes down each generation. So, perhaps magic is a blood mutation and the ability to use magic involves a certain type of mutation that can also develop in children of muggles. But basically that's my theory, yes.

[Nysrock]

Yes and no. I'm saying that perhaps it formed as some mutation in the blood which usually passes down each generation. So, perhaps magic is a blood mutation and the ability to use magic involves a certain type of mutation that can also develop in children of muggles. But basically that's my theory, yes.

So basically Harry potter is the magic version of X-Men?

[Timber]

I like the way you think!

[Nysrock]

I like the way you think!

LOL....and this is even sober!!!

[ekniff]

Oh! You're presenting a theory.

Ah I see now, I missed the premise "Magic has to be something to do with the blood." (see OP)

Well, no one knows the Official mechanism of magic, unless it was covered in a Rowling interview I missed. As such, as long as your theories are coherent with the details in the book, it's pretty much acceptable, yes.

Personally, yours seems to be acceptable, perhaps because it is a little vague and could easily accommodate any other details that might be important. (it's like how horoscopes are always correct)

[Timber]

Yeah. The "theory" arose from the word mudblood though and the whole fasination in the movies with "blood". From my understanding of HP it does seem plausible (although admittedly, I stopped at the 5th book and decided to be lazy and read spoilers to find out what happens). So I'm not too familiar with it. I guess the only person who would really know is Rowling, if she has even thought about it, which I think she might have considering the fairly tight-knit plot and her even thinking about Dumbledore's sexuality. But it is vague, and lacks any substantial proof to prove it, which means I can mould it pretty easily.

[Nysrock]

From the Harry Potter Wiki....

Muggle-borns inherit magic from a distant ancestor; they descend from Squibs who married Muggles and whose families eventually lost the knowledge of their wizarding legacy. The magic resurfaces unexpectedly many generations later[2]. For example, Professor Slughorn suggested that Hermione Granger could be related to Hector Dagworth-Granger, a famous potioneer.

Because of the heritability of magic, a Muggle-born's siblings can sometimes be wizards or witches as well, as in the case of Colin and Dennis Creevey. However, this is not always the case, as Lily Evans's sister Petunia was a Muggle.

When Muggle-born witches and wizards reach the age of eleven in the British wizarding community, their letters from Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry are delivered in person by a member of the staff, instead of by owl post (the usual postal system for wizards and witches). The purpose is to reassure the parents or guardians about sudden news, and explain to them about the concealed magical society. They would also assist the family with the preparation for going to Hogwarts such as the buying of school supplies in the hidden Diagon Alley.[3]

[Timber]

I should read more before theorizing LOL. So that means it's a combination of knowledge and blood?

[Nysrock]

Well it sounds like it is all blood. You have to have some wizardry blood in your past for it to manifest. Though how it first came about isn't explained. Here is a bit more talking about "Pure Bloods"....

Blood purity, also referred to as blood status, is a concept in the wizarding world that distinguishes between family trees that have different levels of magically-endowed members. It often results in prejudice towards those who have a large number of Muggles in their families. Wizarding society in general considers itself apart from and superior to Muggle society, which is not connected with magic. As Sirius Black informed Harry Potter, almost all wizards of their time have Muggles in their family trees, though some claim not to. The concept played a key role in both the First and Second Wizarding Wars.

[Nysrock]

And to further clarify the term "Mud-Blood"....

Those born to Muggle families but who are skilled with magic are referred to as Muggle-borns. The child of two Muggle-borns is considered a Muggle-born. In wizarding Britain, they are allowed to attend the magical school of Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, although some other schools, such as Durmstrang Institute, only admit students with wizarding heritage. Salazar Slytherin fell out of favour with the other Founders of Hogwarts because he wanted to limit attendance on the same grounds.

Those with prejudice against Muggles and their families often refer to such wizards as "Mudbloods," a highly offensive term implying that the individual has dirty and inferior blood. Those who discriminate against Muggle-borns believe that they do not deserve magic and should be excluded from the wizarding world, in spite of the fact that Muggle-borns are just as magically talented as those of other blood statuses.

[Timber]

Thanks. The term confused me, in that I wasn't entirely sure if it was to have one parent that was a muggle or both. But that creates a grey area, what about someone who has one muggle parent? They're kind of left out, probably for the best though.

[Nysrock]

Thanks. The term confused me, in that I wasn't entirely sure if it was to have one parent that was a muggle or both. But that creates a grey area, what about someone who has one muggle parent? They're kind of left out, probably for the best though.

Not at all. Here ya go...

Wizards with families split between Muggles and wizards are referred to as half-bloods. Due to the dominance of the magic gene, children born to at least one magical parent will usually be magical themselves, meaning that a non-magical child born to a Muggle and a wizard is considered a Squib, not a Muggle[3]; the term 'half-blood' is misleading in that it does not necessarily imply a half-and-half split in wizarding/Muggle ancestry, but rather any sort of 'impurity' up to two generations back. By the 1990s, most of the magical population were half-bloods.

The ancestry of a half-blood can be:

* One pure- or half-blood parent, one Muggle parent — e.g. Lord Voldemort, Severus Snape, Dean Thomas, Seamus Finnigan
* One pure- or half-blood parent, one Muggle-born parent — e.g. Harry Potter, Nymphadora Tonks, Albus Dumbledore
* Two magical parents, known Muggle ancestry — e.g. Ted Lupin, James Sirius Potter, Albus Severus Potter, Lily Luna Potter

[Timber]

My Harry Potter knowledge is pretty poor lol. Thanks for clearing all that up.

[Nysrock]

My Harry Potter knowledge is pretty poor lol. Thanks for clearing all that up.

LOL...I knew nothing of this myself. Just have plenty of time on the midnight shift to look things up.

[CavernDragon]

This website might help if you are intrested in Haryy potter back ground.
My kids love the movies / books just ask my empty pockets after 4 for Imax $60. just to get in and $20 for snacks thanks inflation you know how many ddo points that could have been.


http://www.hp-lexicon.org/

[Timber]

Ouch. Your pockets will be glad when the movies are all out.

Thanks for the link, I have plenty of spare time on my hands, so I'll be sure to read it. Besides, since I regular trivia often, useless stuff like this may help me in winning a carton of beer!

[satanofmetal]

So, in the end, all you need its a wizard past life! or sorcerer, if you are more into dragons.
Or we can just stick with the X Men Theory.

Not like i care much. its 9am and i havent sleep for almost 30h When things start getting blurry and i see a spiderpig, ill let you guys know.