Build Help (Clonk)

[-Zyxas-]

I've looked over multiple cleric builds, and to me Clonk has tons of benefits over pure. (BTW going to be a caster, not melee, not solo focused.) I believe 18/2 is the way to go, although some people may favor 17/3. So, 18/2 or 17/3? Also, which race? I really don't like halfling. Do clonks need to stay centered or not? Does this mean I will have to use kamas? How difficult is it to get good casting kamas (and without any characters with tons of money, as in Shroud level)? (And what exactly does being centered do overall? I have a few characters with splash monk, but still don't know if it's worth it to stay centered.) I currently don't have 32 point =[ What stats should I have? What does everyone consider to be the ultimate caster clonk? Any advice would be nice. I started a human 18/2 split, just wondering if I should stay with it and asking for more clonk advice.

[phalaeo]

I've looked over multiple cleric builds, and to me Clonk has tons of benefits over pure. (BTW going to be a caster, not melee, not solo focused.) I believe 18/2 is the way to go, although some people may favor 17/3. So, 18/2 or 17/3? 18/2 Also, which race? Halfling or Human I really don't like halfling. Human, then. Sheesh. Do clonks need to stay centered or not? If they want the +2 Wisdom, +1 DC and better saves from Ocean Stance Does this mean I will have to use kamas? Or Quarterstaves or handwraps How difficult is it to get good casting kamas (and without any characters with tons of money, as in Shroud level)? Impossible. Expect to pay out the ***. Instead, use items for caster stats. (And what exactly does being centered do overall? I have a few characters with splash monk, but still don't know if it's worth it to stay centered.) See above. Ocean stance inproves your Wisdom, which is your offensive casting. I currently don't have 32 point =[ I wouldn't make a 28 pt. Clonk. What stats should I have? What do you want from the character. What race? What does everyone consider to be the ultimate caster clonk? Any advice would be nice. I started a human 18/2 split, just wondering if I should stay with it and asking for more clonk advice.

In Yellow

[Narse]

Quick question concerning Clonks...

What kind of armor/shields/weapons are you allowed to wear and keep evasion?
I'm guessing anything that functions as Light.
Weapons only matter for being centered.

[Danmor]

No armor at all for centered. Light armor only for evasion.
Note: You'll still get wisdom bonus when not centered

[phalaeo]

No armor at all for centered. Light armor only for evasion.
Note: You'll still get wisdom bonus when not centered

In addition:

No shields.
Kamas, Quarterstaves or Handwraps to remain centered.

[Narse]

No armor at all for centered. Light armor only for evasion.
Note: You'll still get wisdom bonus when not centered

Wait, you'll still get the wisdom bonus when not centered? That's huge. The only downside would be then the whole ki system?

And the comments about shields where in reference to being centered, correct?

[-Zyxas-]

Yeah, I figured 18/2. So it sounds like human is the best option for me. As I stated, I want a purely caster clonk, not melee at all. I don't believe there are any wraps with spell enhancing effects, so unless I find some kamas, are quarterstaves acceptable? What did you mean by "Instead, use items for caster stats"? If you mean having a wisdom item, that's fairly obvious... Thanks for the input though.

It is very possible to make a 28 point clonk, but it won't be as good as a 32 point for sure. I'm not asking if it's okay, I'm saying it's what I CAN do and I want to. Three stat setups I'm considering are:
- Str 10 Dex 14 Con 14 Int 8 Wis 16 Cha 12 (are 2 points into str a good idea?)
- Str 8 Dex 16 Con 14 Int 8 Wis 16 Cha 10 (is the dex really needed?)
- Str 8 Dex 12/14 Con 14 Int 8 Wis 18 Cha 8/10

I'd like for someone to put together a planned out build for the "best" of these options.

[erikbozelie]

if you want to have ac. go halfling with max wisdom and good dex.
if you want to have melee capability. go orc with max strength, good con and some wisdom.

for everything else, theres valliance build.

also 32pt is importent voor any clonk.
if you want ac, getting the shield spell from somewhere is your friend. CL1 wiz, soc, or high UMD for CL10 shield wands.

14 int is needed for Combat expertise. roque helps getting max ranks in most usefull skills. including intimidate, trapsmithing, tumble and as noted above UMD. but you might be limited to only 3 of these as clerics get poor skill points per level from themselves.