28 point TWF is possible

[Zachski]

If you want flavor, then skip optimization. This game doesn't really do flavor and full out dps that well, if you need proof take a look at rogue mechanic.

As for needing to splash another class to take a PrE, AA isn't really that great and there's ways to get it outside of elf and bard.

And with 5 favored enemies, practically everything is an FE :P

I was referring to Tempest, actually. They just don't have enough feat slots to take Tempest AND other useful feats. And I hate multiclassing.

Yeah, 5 favored enemies, and you get that... late game, I believe? You still have to deal with only one or two favored enemies at the lower levels, and even with Favored Enemies, you can't really match any other class in terms of DPS.

I think some people forget that there's levels before 18...

And yes, I should be able to choose flavor AND optimization so long as that flavor is dependent on the class itself, not some fancy build (That is, I play a Paladin if I want to be a warrior of light and justice. I play Barbarian if I want to be wild and frenzy. I play Wizard if I want to exploit the arcane powers to unleash wrath against my foes. I play Sorcerer if I want to be a dragon-blooded individual whose magic runs through his own veins. Etc.)