WF - FS 32 pt build - help?

[BinyaminTsadik]

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.5.1
I was trying to get a good all purpose character together.
It did not let me make a GS item or a Dragontouch item.
But considering, i'd like feedback on the items i've selected and all of the enhancements and stats and spells

Here he is:

Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male
(20 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 322
Spell Points: 2009 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 13
Will: 17

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             12                 14                   14
Dexterity            12                 12                   12
Constitution         12                 14                   16
Intelligence         10                 10                   10
Wisdom               14                 19                   21
Charisma             14                 18                   22

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 14
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 14
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 14
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 14

{\b {\ul Notable Equipment }} \par Shining Crest of St. Markus \par Lorrik's Necklace \par Mummified Bat \par Charismatic Cloak of Protection \par Kormor's Belt \par Kormor's Ring \par Ring of the Djinn \par Ring of Spell Storing \par Gauntlets of Eternity \par Boots of the Innocent \par Firestorm Greaves \par Levik's Bracers \par Quorforged Docent of Battle (Upgraded) \par Tharne's Goggles \par Muck's Doom \par Sceptor of Healing \par +5 Holy Burst Metalline Greatsword of Pure Good \par Lorikk's Champion \par Charismatic Ring of Heavy Fortification \par  \par Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Adamantine Body
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Lord of Blades
Spell (1): Divine Favor
Spell (1): Nimbus of Light
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction I


Level 2 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (1): Nightshield
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I


Level 4 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (2): Resist Energy
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I


Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Spell (3): Mass Aid
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I


Level 7 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (2): Lesser Restoration
Spell (3): Remove Curse
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III


Level 8 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Spell (2): Hold Person
Spell (3): Remove Blindness
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life II


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
Spell (5): Raise Dead
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (3): Remove Disease
Spell (4): Mass Shield of Faith
Spell (5): True Seeing
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
Spell (6): Heal
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II


Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (4): Restoration
Spell (5): Slay Living
Spell (6): Blade Barrier
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration II


Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (7): Protection From Elements, Mass
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Spell (5): Break Enchantment
Spell (6): Cometfall
Spell (7): Greater Restoration
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction II


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (8): Mass Cure Critical Wounds
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life III


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (7): Mass Spell Resistance
Spell (8): Mass Death Ward
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life III


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Damage Reduction
Spell (9): Mass Heal
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction III


Level 19 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (8): Death Pact
Spell (9): True Resurrection
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (9): Implosion
Enhancement: Favored Soul Ascendency: Lord of Blades
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III

[BinyaminTsadik]

I am already thinking that I should lower the dexterity to 8 because with a +6 item, the armor bonus will still only be +1 because of adamantine armor

And also (VERY BIG MISTAKE) instead of acid resist i would take adamentine 10/DR

[Consumer]

This is... not good

If you want to cast offensively and have decent DCs dont go WF, go human.

There are several WF FvS builds already on the forums, you should try one of those.

[Khayvan]

The best and easiest path to take with a WF Soul is to go heavy on melee. This means dump Wisdom, take only enough Charisma to be able to cast your spells, and focus the rest of your stat points into Strength and Constitution. The spells you choose would be all healing and buffing spells, with the notable exception of Blade Barrier.

If you want to be primarily an offensive caster (it seems so from your stat build and level up plan) then you would really have more fun and a more rewarding experience going with a human or other race with no WIS penalties and putting an 18 in WIS to start with.

This is Melkor's WF build, it heavily influenced my own and IMO is the best of it's kind on the forums.
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=211596

This is Impaqt's evoker build, a focused caster Soul. I would follow this one if I was going the caster route.
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=199266

[BinyaminTsadik]

Thanks for the link Khayvan

I understand what you mean. Thanks for the clarification.

After looking at the other forum I was thinking I would still (personally) like a higher charisma.

Would these starting stats be a good choice?

str 16 = 10 pts
dex 8
con 18 = 10 pts
int 10 = 2 pts
wis 6
cha 14 = 10 pts
= 32 pt build

[BinyaminTsadik]

Has anyone tried using bastard swords as a S&B build?

[Paleus]

I think you're honing in on a better build. My two suggestions are to drop the following feats you had originally listed: Improved Damage Reduction and Spell Penetration. The reason you should drop spell penetration should be straightforward now that you have honed in on melee over offensive spell casting (namely you're never going to penetrate a spell resistance). With regards to Improved Damage Reduction, you're spending a feat to gain 1/dr adamantine, not enough to justify using a feat.

Things that I would consider picking up: Maximize, it works on cures and blade barriers (a spell even a low dc wf can land on low reflex mobs during parts of the game). Also, improved critical slashing is nice. A min II weapon can cover this feat sometimes, but until you have it (or if you get a sword of shadows or a smiter) you'll probably want to have improved crit. Power attack is also a nice feat to consider on melee focused warforged.

[Khayvan]

Would these starting stats be a good choice?

str 16 = 10 pts
dex 8
con 18 = 10 pts
int 10 = 2 pts
wis 6
cha 14 = 10 pts
= 32 pt build

I think that would be fine.

The reason people recommend a lower CHA is because going higher really doesn't get you anything worthwhile. To cast your spells, you need a minimum 10 + level of the spell, so a 19 CHA to cast your 9th (highest) level spells. To be on the safe side, I like to end up in the 22-24 range at level 20. This means if a Disjunction knocks out my item, I can still cast some spells, specifically Heal.

This is easily gotten with: 12 start + 2 tome + 2 capstone + 6 item = 22 CHA. That's without even picking up any other CHA enhancements or exceptional stat items. Starting with a 14, you would make 24 with the same set-up. But because of the WF penalty, you're spending 4 build points at creation for nothing more than 29 extra SP at cap. That's a drop in the bucket when you've already got 2300+.

But truthfully you're into the minor tweaks that won't make or break a character. If you feel more comfortable with a higher CHA at start then go for it. If you decide down the road you don't like or need it after all, you can always do a lesser reincarnation and change it.

Has anyone tried using bastard swords as a S&B build?

No, but I can't possibly see it as being worth it. First off, there's no synergy with class or race for bastard swords. Second, you'll never have a high enough AC to matter so the shield is mostly there just to look pretty. Third, it costs a feat on a build that already is extremely tight on slots.