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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcampa View Post
    Well if I go Pure Wizzy I can cast spells to: If I go Pure Barb That does more DPS
    But if you go epic SoS, you do more damage AND get more feats AND keep the stuff you already have.

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    Now that you have made my 20 Stalwart Defender feel completely inadequate . . . will you be posting any more of the build details, and maybe how you got those stats? I can't for the life of me figure out how you can get your so many stats over 30 all at once and well over it at that . . . . I would love to know what am i missing?

    I don't see any gear thats particularly spectacular so I'm assuming they are cast-able effects and boosts??? How long can you actually sustain those stat levels in each pic?

    Just in awe and would love to learn what I'm missing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snakethejake View Post
    Now that you have made my 20 Stalwart Defender feel completely inadequate . . . will you be posting any more of the build details, and maybe how you got those stats? I can't for the life of me figure out how you can get your so many stats over 30 all at once and well over it at that . . . . I would love to know what am i missing?

    I don't see any gear thats particularly spectacular so I'm assuming they are cast-able effects and boosts??? How long can you actually sustain those stat levels in each pic?

    Just in awe and would love to learn what I'm missing!

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    +3 tomes to all stats, +2 yugo pot to all stats, +2 guild ship to all stats, +6 RR items, DoS stance, +3 DDO store pots, +3 collectible pots...

    It's a ton of consumables and TR gear. Nothing special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khaldan View Post
    +3 tomes to all stats, +2 yugo pot to all stats, +2 guild ship to all stats, +6 RR items, DoS stance, +3 DDO store pots, +3 collectible pots...

    It's a ton of consumables and TR gear. Nothing special.
    I certainly hope he's not wasting +3 tomes on his first TR. I'd wait until after the 2nd TR before considering consuming Tomes. As for Yugo pots, one would have to have bought a ton of them before TR'ing because you won't be buying anymore until your at least lvl17.

    Oh and that's SD stance; DoS would only apply if he were a Pally.

    TR'ed my Fighter, in his first life he was a Stalwart Defender, had 80+AC easily without yugo/store/collectible pots. Now I'm going Kensai for the fun of it.
    Pretty fun, killing mobs quickly enough, but certainly not as solo-able what with my AC less then 40 without a shield. I'll probably go back to SD in my next life.

    Oh, While I do have TWF with both Dwarven Axes and Khopeshes, there's no way I wouldn't use my Epic SoS for many situations which call for it.
    Granted TWF+Khopeshes is allot more feat heavy then THF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcampa View Post
    Well if I go Pure Wizzy I can cast spells to: If I go Pure Barb That does more DPS
    lol.
    Well, thanks for confirming the opinion on you.

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    So OP, basically your feat progression is:


    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Feat: (Selected) Two weapon fighting

    Level 2 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness

    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness

    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons

    Level 6 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons

    Level 8 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness

    Level 10 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons

    Level 12 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness

    Level 14 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


    Level 15 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness

    Level 16 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Superior Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons

    Level 18 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness

    Level 19 (Paladin)
    Feat: Toughness

    ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delt View Post
    Whether I agree or not (I don't really care, I figure the OP is usually trolling), I found your zeal in going after Trixxie interesting. Interesting enough that just had to dig up who you were...

    http://my.ddo.com/character/thelanis/khald/
    http://my.ddo.com/character/thelanis/banju/

    Now, to be fair, you didn't say you were anything special...but considering the closest you come to the gear/consumables the OP uses is when you look them up on the wiki, I can't help but feel your disparagements are somewhat...disingenuous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeslieWest_GuitarGod View Post
    So OP, basically your feat progression is:


    ??

    No I have only 3 toughness planned

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delt View Post
    Whether I agree or not (I don't really care, I figure the OP is usually trolling), I found your zeal in going after Trixxie interesting. Interesting enough that just had to dig up who you were...

    http://my.ddo.com/character/thelanis/khald/
    http://my.ddo.com/character/thelanis/banju/

    Now, to be fair, you didn't say you were anything special...but considering the closest you come to the gear/consumables the OP uses is when you look them up on the wiki, I can't help but feel your disparagements are somewhat...disingenuous.

    /shrug


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    Both of those characters haven't had much done on them in the past year and a half, and khald had most of his gear stolen for khaldan, since I didn't feel like TRing either of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldest View Post
    Please breakdown the Strength and Constitution stats in the screenshot.
    That's twice you have asked and for some reason the OP is avoiding breaking down his stats.

    37 str at lvl 1? hmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    That's twice you have asked and for some reason the OP is avoiding breaking down his stats.

    37 str at lvl 1? hmmm

    IS That not Nice

    I did break down the AC posted at level 12 as in the title.

    When I finish the tweaking at level 20 to maximise everything I can the build will be posted.

    It will be a very fun and versital spin with my flavor to some of the other very good fighter tank builds out there.

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    Everyone knows this guy is a joke and none of these numbers are sustainable.

    Wow he can take all toughness feats, have 100 clickys/pots a scourge choker, tumble and and take a screenshot so it looks good for all of about 10 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcampa View Post
    IS That not Nice

    I did break down the AC posted at level 12 as in the title.

    When I finish the tweaking at level 20 to maximise everything I can the build will be posted.

    It will be a very fun and versital spin with my flavor to some of the other very good fighter tank builds out there.
    Yes you did, I thanked you and gave you rep.

    To everyone else hating in this thread, I stopped hating on Dave a long time ago when he refused to post breakdowns of his numbers. It was obvious he was pumping stats with a bunch of temporary unsustainable buffs. Thats cool if thats what he enjoys doing I'm not going to hate on him for it.

    This doesnt mean him and I havent bumped heads for other reasons, but if he enjoys making threads like this, more power to him.
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    Whether or not you agree with temp buffs and store pots to buff up stats for a ss, until you play with him and see him at work don't knock his builds. Trixxie was an awesome tank in her first life and I'm sure she'll be just as good in her second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow_419 View Post
    Whether or not you agree with temp buffs and store pots to buff up stats for a ss, until you play with him and see him at work don't knock his builds. Trixxie was an awesome tank in her first life and I'm sure she'll be just as good in her second.
    /QFT

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcampa View Post
    IS That not Nice

    I did break down the AC posted at level 12 as in the title.

    When I finish the tweaking at level 20 to maximise everything I can the build will be posted.

    It will be a very fun and versital spin with my flavor to some of the other very good fighter tank builds out there.
    I'm not saying anything un-nice and this is not about a AC breakdown ( which you have posted) - you were asked politely to breakdown your stats thats all.

    I am particuarly interested in seeing the 37 Str at lvl 1 for example.

    I assume also that you would have planned this build to cap so I am also just wondering why you cant share this information yet.

    The screenies look impressive I just would like to see how you break things down, now that you have shown them off effectively as well as the build.

    So it's not about not being nice it's about you providing the information to validate the numbers you are proud off in the screenies - in particular the stats.

    Thanks

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    if you have the gear, pots, and buffs, you can get really high by 12th....but you do need the gear.

    the buffs, self or put on you are a big help...
    I never do the ship buffs and the house d stuff, but that really can add up too...

    Even with just 'some gear' you can get to the 70s at level 12 as a stalwart...

    however.....there are only slow move ups from there....but a fun immovable tank at 12 for sure..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    I am particuarly interested in seeing the 37 Str at lvl 1 for example.
    It's not that hard to figure out a theoretical 37. You might have been able to get higher before the change to +2 Tomes, but if that happened before TR was released, then never mind. Anyways, at least one way to do it is:

    18 Base
    02 Bound Str item
    02 Yugoloth potion
    04 Hezrou Cookie
    04 Titan Cookie
    03 House D pot
    02 Store pot
    02 Rage spell

    With ship buffs, you can get even higher, but the concept is the same either way. (Edit: although actually, the cookie values may not be correct, but I seem to recall that they were +4 each...anyways, you get the idea.)
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