XP farm, have things really changed that much?

[MrWizard]

so I joined an 'xp farm' on norm on a quest called temple of vol...looks like they were gonna do it many times too.

awesome, a couple casters, a fvs, zooomm...maybe get some boots.


jumped in orchard ran to quest...was not started yet.

leader was off doing chests in orchard 'can't pass them up' he said...ok I though, Ill wait...and wait....

finally got them done and the existing group gathered at door. Another caster joined us. 'we should wait til he gets here to start'...

so, now it has been about 12 minutes since I got to the door....sigh. And we have not even started yet. Okay, benefit of the doubt, we gonna run this uber fast..

we enter...go to left side, get keys... and wait... as we get all the traps on that side.
Even though we have the keys to drop down, we now go to the other side and get the traps there.


sigh...


We finally get down to the middle area..3 casters and a fvs.... One guy...just one.. goes running for some mobs (which all kinda get hung up now) and we slowly, ever so slowly, kill each group that is brought in. Lucky for us the runner waits til each group is dead til he runs out for more.
Only one runner allowed so this takes quite a while.

Then, due to door closures and not having opened the lower doors, we all have to run around the whole dungeon anyway to kill the vamps needed.

Did I mention, we gotta break all vases and such...spawning firewall immune shadows everywhere?

finally, finally, at end battle...light up vamps 2 seconds death...chest.

leader says 'i got door' anyone want to farm some more......

a 5 minute farm, tops, that took well over 30 minutes... I passed.


I guess I am old, but an xp farm used to be a wild zerg fest for loot and quick xp. I would have called this type of run in the old days a 'do all optionals, relaxed run'....

we could have run it 6 or 7 times in the same span of time. I understand what the leader was doing. And I did not bail til the dungeon was over. We followed his instructions.

But it was not an XP farm to me. Not at all. Not a loot run either.


Is this what xp farming means nowadays?



Vol in the old days..

caster (or fvs now) would enter and an IP would be put up....as people entered they ran around and killed the vamps needed, killed the end guys, hit the side chest, out...a few minutes..done. Back in...done...back in done...
no crates, no second chest for key, zerg/kill/loot/xp...


A fellow guildie joined the group too...she was yawning and falling asleep too... We finished it for the group and did what was required, but we had to leave after that.

The leader was a nice person, and all the players were very nice, we did a good job.
But we got suckered into thinking we were in a nice xp/loot farm and we were not.

[Lorz]

It's was your group. I still Zerg it that way usually with just another guildy.

Oh and we get the breakables and the extra key/ shield chest. Really only takes about 69 extra seconds for both.

Maybe your just getting old and slow and it's time to put you out to pasture

[Zenako]

Perhaps the term XP Farm is being morphed. It sounds like they were trying to "farm" all the EXP they could out of each run, and are not thinking about the concept of time as a factor.

Some of this is due to F2P mentality where many players do not own all the quests, so they want to get as much EXP as they can out of the ones they do own. Speed is nice, but not the driving parameter.

At least they were decent players and new what they were doing, so besides the pace of the run, things seemed to go smoothly.

[Luacan]

Farming for XP should be how you described it, 5-6 min run tops on that quest. Your group was terribly slow. The invention of dungeon alert has slowed some of the "zerg" runs down a bit but 20 min is simply ugly.

[Bunker]

I dont' think the phrase has changed. In this case, I would assume that the words "xp farm" were being misused.

I could be incorrect, or not with the times, but for me and many old vets of ddo, xp farming is about maintaining the highest xp/min average possible.

[leopold]

Oh and we get the breakables and the extra key/ shield chest. Really only takes about 69 extra seconds for both.

lol'd at this, only because you are so exact about the extra time.

[Nouda_EU]

you whinge much young one yet when you find a good group you dont stick with it!

[AyumiAmakusa]

Perhaps the term XP Farm is being morphed. It sounds like they were trying to "farm" all the EXP they could out of each run, and are not thinking about the concept of time as a factor.

This is what they meant. The OP is looking for 'Zerg Party. No Optionals'.

[Xithos]

I think that because of several factors (Free 2 Play, -10P for the party, Dungeon Scaling) that the more competent players who "zerg and XP farm" are LFMing much less and whats left are the LFMs that describe the situation in your post.

Possible?

[MrWizard]

This is what they meant. The OP is looking for 'Zerg Party. No Optionals'.

no, that is not xp farming..

what they where doing was a relaxed dungeon run to soak max xp out of it....very slowly and relaxed.


and then hold the door to do it again.


like I said, in 30 minutes you could do that 5-7 times, for loot drops and tons of xp. That is xp/loot farming.

[AyumiAmakusa]

no, that is not xp farming..

what they where doing was a relaxed dungeon run to soak max xp out of it....very slowly and relaxed.


and then hold the door to do it again.


like I said, in 30 minutes you could do that 5-7 times, for loot drops and tons of xp. That is xp/loot farming.

Oh I see. I guess different people interpret 'XP Farm' differently.