What are the N/H/E "safe" AC thresholds for VoD/ToD/Etc . . .

[Angelus_dead]

Scarab or mantle

How long is a scarab and mantle going to last with all the red explosions and green rays?

[Logicman69]

. When I got aggro again and pulled him back over to his spot, I got stunned and he went running over to suulomades again. We finally managed to kill them both, after much chaos.

So as I see it, all it takes is a single stun just as the intimidate timer runs out to potentially cause a wipe, while horoth would stay aggro'd on a hate tank, even if they were stunned.

This is where a good Light Monk comes in handy. On mine, I am usually casting the Earth Finisher on both the healers and the main tank, then running to a portal or a un-FTS orthon and getting ki back. The Hensin Mystic set comes in really handy here (+1 to my ki regen per hit makes sure I get back ki in a hurry. I can usualy go from empty to full in less then 30 seconds on a stunned mob). The trick is to establish a pattern for your finishers so you know exactly how much time you have left (I usually cast on clerics first, then tank. I center myself on the clerics for casting so I have the timer on my screen).

of course this is all assuming you hace a GOOD light monk. They are as rare as a good Battle-cleric.

[sirgog]

This is where a good Light Monk comes in handy. On mine, I am usually casting the Earth Finisher on both the healers and the main tank, then running to a portal or a un-FTS orthon and getting ki back. The Hensin Mystic set comes in really handy here (+1 to my ki regen per hit makes sure I get back ki in a hurry. I can usualy go from empty to full in less then 30 seconds on a stunned mob). The trick is to establish a pattern for your finishers so you know exactly how much time you have left (I usually cast on clerics first, then tank. I center myself on the clerics for casting so I have the timer on my screen).

of course this is all assuming you hace a GOOD light monk. They are as rare as a good Battle-cleric.

When I lead a ToD, I usually ask light monks just to keep the healer types Grasped. A hate tank getting stunned doesn't really matter unless they are also their own healer, which is rare.

Spare Ki goes on keeping the Heavens aligned.

[vyvy3369]

When I lead a ToD, I usually ask light monks just to keep the healer types Grasped. A hate tank getting stunned doesn't really matter unless they are also their own healer, which is rare.

Spare Ki goes on keeping the Heavens aligned.

This. Also, Heal removes any Stun effects, so as long as the healers aren't getting stunned they can just throw one on the tank as soon as someone calls out Banish.

Edit: It was a lot of extra work, but one idea I had that helps with ToD: un-suppress a pale lavendar ioun stone. The most annoying part about tanking that raid for me is running out of Haste, and having to wait until after a banish to refresh it. Switch the stone in, remove boots, haste, boots on, switch trinket back, and you're still protected from getting banished.

[Logicman69]

When I lead a ToD, I usually ask light monks just to keep the healer types Grasped. A hate tank getting stunned doesn't really matter unless they are also their own healer, which is rare.

Spare Ki goes on keeping the Heavens aligned.

If it is a Hate-tank, yes. Intimitanks tend to loose agro easier, so Grasp would be a big help for them.

[grodon9999]

DQ-staff Ray of Enfeeblement, most likely.

That no longer works/.

Because we 3-manned VoD a few weeks ago and my ranger was barely getting touched by Sulu. My Buffed AC with PA on was 72 (technically 75 though because of FE). We nailed him with Exhaustion scrolls first thing.

Arranticus said in another post 72 was the "safe" AC for sulu, it was an old post though.

[Angelus_dead]

Because we 3-manned VoD a few weeks ago and my ranger was barely getting touched by Sulu. My Buffed AC with PA on was 72 (technically 75 though because of FE). We nailed him with Exhaustion scrolls first thing.

Sure, but all that example shows is that the threshold isn't above 75. That test would give no information on how far below 75 it might be.

[MrWizard]

this works fine for intim tanking suulo

I was blocking a mostly to make it 72, but the orthons and devils weren't much of a test at all.

[RS-Makk]

I figured instead of starting a new thread I would necro grodon's.

So what are the tresholds an ac tank should be going for n/h/e for the various raids?

Thanks!