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    Default please fix manyshot

    ok guys the game is still supposed to be fun
    rangers spamming manyshot is not fun, talk about an easy button
    I mean this is an obvious exploit of a broken game mechanic is it not?
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    Ha ha - let them have their fun :P it won't last forever
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    Carry extra arrows and sell them to the rangers when they run out. Profit!

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    Ranged Ranger a exploit? lol

    Man i Thought i would never live long enuf to see the day id hear that one....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purgatory View Post
    Ranged Ranger a exploit? lol

    Man i Thought i would never live long enuf to see the day id hear that one....
    sweet, poor, innocent ace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judo View Post
    sweet, poor, innocent ace

    so uninformed, so...oblivious
    oh... I think my AA needs to go check something....been a week or so since I ran him.
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    I agree: Fix manyshot - for real! A 20th level Arcane Archer should not have the same cool-down as a level four tempest!

    Perhaps give us an enhancement line to reduce the cool-down, or to make manyshot last longer than twenty seconds, or some combination of the two.

    Yes, I'm aware that the OP's complaint was about the current bug, but hey...WITH the bug, manyshot is closer to what it should be than when it's WAI!!!

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    I am hoping they leave it as is for as long as possible. Ranged combat has never been even remotely viable until now. Even still the only rangers toping the charts right now with this bug are arcane archers with slaying arrows, regular rangers should just be even with twin khopesh meele.


    Yes I see it should be fixed someday, but hopefully not without a complete ranged overhaul that finally makes ranged viable without the use of bugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenako View Post
    oh... I think my AA needs to go check something....been a week or so since I ran him.
    lol, put a level on mine while playing him for the first time in a long time, and didn't even know about this upgrade, er, I mean bug.

    I did notice that when I accidentally double clicked my sprint boost, it ticked off twice, and would let me click again although it was still active and on timer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenako View Post
    oh... I think my AA needs to go check something....been a week or so since I ran him.
    No need to check I'm sure hes of the manyshot timer now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldeneye View Post
    Ha ha - let them have their fun :P it won't last forever

    That time I was able to +1 ya!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Baranor View Post
    ok guys the game is still supposed to be fun
    rangers spamming manyshot is not fun, talk about an easy button
    I mean this is an obvious exploit of a broken game mechanic is it not?
    Sounds like someone got pwn'd one to many times in PVP or got out killed by a RANGED RANGER.... oh the sanity of it all... geeze guys find something more viable to complain about...
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    Yep this needs to be fixed, but turbine really should looking into changing the cool down/duration for many shot at least for AA's. Maybe make it an enhancement that only AA's can get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Uncle72 View Post
    Sounds like someone got pwn'd one to many times in PVP or got out killed by a RANGED RANGER.... oh the sanity of it all... geeze guys find something more viable to complain about...
    I dont PVP and in the shroud does kill count matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baranor View Post
    I dont PVP and in the shroud does kill count matter?
    For a long time Rangers have had the short end of the stick when it comes to combat unless they went the line of tempest enhancements. Now a "bug" or "exploit" comes along and actually BENEFITS rangers of the ranged line and people are complaining??

    I swear it's like no one's happy unless it's fair to THEM...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baranor View Post
    I dont PVP and in the shroud does kill count matter?
    So... then what makes it "unfun" for you? Getting through the shroud too quickly?
    Have a nice day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baranor View Post
    ok guys the game is still supposed to be fun
    rangers spamming manyshot is not fun, talk about an easy button
    I mean this is an obvious exploit of a broken game mechanic is it not?
    Absolutely NO, it doesn't need fixing because it isn't broken. Yes i know it isn't WAI but this is how it should be IMO.

    Even with this it is all my AA can do to keep my DPS near melees, I get 20 seconds of being a god and then I get to go back to being a gimp until it recharges, if anything Manyshot needs a shorter cooldown, longer duration, or both... It is only really OP early on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebrute7 View Post
    Absolutely NO, it doesn't need fixing because it isn't broken. Yes i know it isn't WAI but this is how it should be IMO.

    Even with this it is all my AA can do to keep my DPS near melees, I get 20 seconds of being a god and then I get to go back to being a gimp until it recharges, if anything Manyshot needs a shorter cooldown, longer duration, or both... It is only really OP early on.
    The normal timer on manyshot is NOT what he is alluding to....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giselle View Post
    I agree: Fix manyshot - for real! A 20th level Arcane Archer should not have the same cool-down as a level four tempest!
    No. Manyshot already inreases in power as, with a higher BaB, you shoot more arrows. It doesn't need a further buff in terms of reducing the cooldown as level increases.

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    You really don't think that the ability to create endless, returning arrows, an entire enhancement line that uses one helluva lot more action points than Tempest and the experience necessary to level to 20 doesn't merit a decrease in the cool-down?

    As a Tempest levels, s/he gets more attacks and attacks faster - and not just in 20 second spurts! I think that there *is* justification for a reduction in cool-down/increase in length of manyshot, if only to keep Arcane Archers viable.

    If there isn't a change, I've already decided to lesser reincarnate my AA back into a Tempest, which is kinda sad as I originally rolled her to be a ranged character.....
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