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    Default Anyone here ever played Anarchy Online?

    Just curious. I've got a well-established character on RK2...planning on popping back in there to see how things have changed since I last stepped foot in the Shadowlands.
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    I used to play AO. I was even addicted. ^^' I've been thinking about going back there after the new engine's out, but I'm not sure when this happens. I know they made some major changes - new expansion pack for highbies, mail system and stuff. I'm a lil lost in all this. They didn't nerf advies tho, so I can still come back and own.

    I know it's harder and harder to stay f2p, there are almost no new free features. If you ever had a payed account they sometimes offer you a 30 days free to come back and check what's new.
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    Yes, it was my first MMO from just about start for 3 or so years.
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    I liked AO for its complexity, and played it nonstop for 3.5 years. You really had to take time out to make sure that your characters were ready for the next phase of content. "twinking" was heavily important, and required a good deal of thinking and planning to execute. You simply would get to a point where you could not progress if you did not heavily twink, unless you found a group that would adopt you as a total pileon.

    My biggest disappointment about that game though, is the promised new engine that never seemed to happen. In addition to this, when I left...almost all of the endgame content (cities, ai loot, certain dynas)"was "monopolized" by a handful of players who strong armed their way into power, often by ninjaing other people's stuff. (but hell, its anarchy right?) This is actually cool, but it made it to where a brand new player, with no good organization, was left completely in the dust in terms of having any chance at competing, so I think that heavily contributed to making the non ftp game a ghost town.

    There was also an abundant lack of good currency sinks, and the economy became so inflated that vendor trash was nerfed to where you needed to be a very high level to ever farm any reasonable amount. So this in turn, resulted in a few people having more money than they knew what to do with, owning all access to the equivalent of "raid loot, and even many dyna spawn spots, which were camped almost 24/7, who had the gear and resources to ninja any kill someone else tried to make.

    Oh, there was a way to make money if you were an incoming new player! If you were a lowbie, you pretty much had to resort to "cheating" by using clicksaver to farm twink gear for the rich guys, who basically paid whatever they felt like for it. While it was very much against the EULA, the arks did nothing about it afaik. In addition to the lowbie troubles, there was an abundance of new players begging for handouts in the cities.

    I only mentioned that I have an "established" character there because honestly, if you don't, (it, at least was) a VERY bumpy road to try to get anywhere (don't know how this has changed). Just resurfacing all of this is making me regret even wanting to step foot in AO again, although, I suppose it definitely adds the "anarchy" to Anarchy Online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwlech View Post
    I liked AO for its complexity, and played it nonstop for 3.5 years. You really had to take time out to make sure that your characters were ready for the next phase of content. "twinking" was heavily important, and required a good deal of thinking and planning to execute. You simply would get to a point where you could not progress if you did not heavily twink, unless you found a group that would adopt you as a total pileon.
    Yeah that's what this game was about - twinking. I've spent 3 days twinking Doctor's Right Hand of Hope and Left Hand of Grace, not mentioning perk resets which I had alarm set for and got up in the night to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by gwlech View Post
    My biggest disappointment about that game though, is the promised new engine that never seemed to happen. In addition to this, when I left...almost all of the endgame content (cities, ai loot, certain dynas)"was "monopolized" by a handful of players who strong armed their way into power, often by ninjaing other people's stuff. (but hell, its anarchy right?) This is actually cool, but it made it to where a brand new player, with no good organization, was left completely in the dust in terms of having any chance at competing, so I think that heavily contributed to making the non ftp game a ghost town.
    New engine is coming. Guys from Funcom were just too optimistic, thinking that new engine can come out this year.
    I smiled reading about the 'monopol' for loot... Was it really that hard on RK2? Or maybe you didn't join a decent org.
    People quit from AO because there are new, awesome looking games. But I met many who play only AO and they find AO their second home (or first actually, I know something about it).

    Quote Originally Posted by gwlech View Post
    There was also an abundant lack of good currency sinks, and the economy became so inflated that vendor trash was nerfed to where you needed to be a very high level to ever farm any reasonable amount. So this in turn, resulted in a few people having more money than they knew what to do with, owning all access to the equivalent of "raid loot, and even many dyna spawn spots, which were camped almost 24/7, who had the gear and resources to ninja any kill someone else tried to make.

    Oh, there was a way to make money if you were an incoming new player! If you were a lowbie, you pretty much had to resort to "cheating" by using clicksaver to farm twink gear for the rich guys, who basically paid whatever they felt like for it. While it was very much against the EULA, the arks did nothing about it afaik.
    I disagree about the farming stuff. You could get a decent money being a freebie lowbie, for examle getting a basic armor (1m/piece). Farming gold and gems of medusae was a good idea either. Not mentioning Bioware loot.
    Calling "clicksaver" cheating is - IMHO - unfair. First of all - you needed a pair of twinking cushions for yourself. Second of all - clicksaver is used for rolling missions, not making them. Third and final - you described it like only rich guys could pay for things which anyone could roll. You sound like jealous.


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    In addition to the lowbie troubles, there was an abundance of new players begging for handouts in the cities.
    OMG YES! Worse than a plague...

    Quote Originally Posted by gwlech View Post
    I only mentioned that I have an "established" character there because honestly, if you don't, (it, at least was) a VERY bumpy road to try to get anywhere (don't know how this has changed). Just resurfacing all of this is making me regret even wanting to step foot in AO again, although, I suppose it definitely adds the "anarchy" to Anarchy Online.
    If you're f2p - yeah. Even trying to get to somewhere (100 levels of team missions) is pointless. But when you have shadowlands and some money (pearlz farmin for example, dropping everywhere in shadowlands, from ql1 to ql200), a team for AI missions and org with a city - not a problem.

    If you want to come back to AO - wait for the new engine. And don't play a toon which u didn't roll and twink. I bet you'll find it annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinfaroth View Post
    Yeah that's what this game was about - twinking. I've spent 3 days twinking Doctor's Right Hand of Hope and Left Hand of Grace, not mentioning perk resets which I had alarm set for and got up in the night to do it.
    Yeah, loved spending days swapping out gear to just get one item on. Finally getting my augmented Master Engineer Pistol, and that um...forget the name...other ridiculously OP pistol fully upgraded on was really exciting.

    New engine is coming. Guys from Funcom were just too optimistic, thinking that new engine can come out this year.I smiled reading about the 'monopol' for loot... Was it really that hard on RK2? Or maybe you didn't join a decent org.People quit from AO because there are new, awesome looking games. But I met many who play only AO and they find AO their second home (or first actually, I know something about it).
    Yeah...soon (tm)...lol...and as for mono...there was a certain person...I won't say his name, but people knew who he was, who at one time owned ~80% of the cities in the game, he made people pay rent to use them for ai raids. The rest were owned by a small handful of people, while you had a few orgs that had 1 or possibly 2. Most orgs did not have a city...could cost you 7-8 billion easily for a small one. I hear they instanced cities after I left, to make them potentially infinite, although I never saw that change.

    As for SL dynas...yeah, there would be some guy decked out in AI armor and the best possibly imaginable gear that would go from point to point (sometimes these guys would be in packs) and kill steal everything and then laugh at you while they looted.

    Or certain orgs that would camp Heckler spots almost 24/7...and if anyone else tried to do anything, they would bring a flag in and gank the entire team that was there. It was a harsh place...yeah adds to the anarchic atmosphere I think.

    I disagree about the farming stuff. You could get a decent money being a freebie lowbie, for examle getting a basic armor (1m/piece). Farming gold and gems of medusae was a good idea either. Not mentioning Bioware loot.
    Calling "clicksaver" cheating is - IMHO - unfair. First of all - you needed a pair of twinking cushions for yourself. Second of all - clicksaver is used for rolling missions, not making them. Third and final - you described it like only rich guys could pay for things which anyone could roll. You sound like jealous.
    Hell, even I used clicksaver, everyone used clicksaver...but it was an outside program that automated, yeah it saved tons of time. Basic armor was an option. I remember back when CAS used to be valuable, I would farm up a perfect QL xxx set to tradeskill and sell while I was leveling up...could get 10+ mil for a set easily. I was in an org with 2 cities, and I remember soloing my own AI raids to farm parts to make AI armor, which I would then sell. You could also make decent money in a short time pearl farming in Ely, or running Inferno missions. I wasn't jealous, because I didn't have money issues, but most people did.

    OMG YES! Worse than a plague...
    Yeah, I tried to imagine filthy street beggars everywhere you went...kind of adds to the atmosphere...It was worse if you could tradeskill, because you could get bombarded with tells to make something...and they don't give you the right mats...and after all that clicking, don't bother to tip or even say thanks.

    If you want to come back to AO - wait for the new engine. And don't play a toon which u didn't roll and twink. I bet you'll find it annoying.
    As I suspect alot of people will do when it comes out. There will be alot of returning players, and possibly new players.
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    Yeah, you kind of had me thinking about trying this AO out, then this-


    Quote Originally Posted by Dinfaroth View Post
    I've spent 3 days twinking Doctor's Right Hand of Hope and Left Hand of Grace, not mentioning perk resets which I had alarm set for and got up in the night to do it.
    Any game I need to set an alarm for (especially in the middle of the night) is beyond ridiculous waste of time.
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