If these three things change I will make a Radiant Servant

[Creeper]

Three very simple, fast changes I propose:

1. Make Divine Healing, Divine Vitality, etc. SELF CASTABLE!!!!!!!

2. Add some tiers to the blasted things beyond tier three. Have you noticed Divine Vitality is maxed out at level 9? Level 9. That's why we all are griping about how much it stinks.

3. Now take Divine Might for example: FOUR tiers, maxed out at level 20. It IS self castable ONLY, and didn’t even come out for over two years after divine vitality/health came out—and probably should be (divine might) castable on others; then bingo, best buff, besides haste, in the game right there. You’re a level 20 cleric with 20 base Charisma? Here, you’ve made a lot of sacrifices for this thing. Now have a useful buff you can cast on someone else thereby making it something useful and worth taking for a pure cleric.

Fix these two simple things and it will do wonders to bring a tier two Radiant Servant beyond a Favored Soul WITHOUT a PRE, which, I for one feel, it is not in line with as detailed.

[sephiroth1084]

DV is still very much worthwhile. 400+ mana back to a caster or fellow healer? Whether its worth the SP to provide a Major Mnemonic+ to someone is up for debate, but I happen to really like receiving DVs on my wizard.

And it does scale with level somewhat. As your Cha improves from items and tomes, and possibly exceptional stats and gear that grants turns/rest, your DVs get better as you have more of them.

[Creeper]

DV is still very much worthwhile. 400+ mana back to a caster or fellow healer? Whether its worth the SP to provide a Major Mnemonic+ to someone is up for debate, but I happen to really like receiving DVs on my wizard.

Agreed that it is worthwhile, in that it's worth 6 ap, but it's slow and at level 20 far from epic. Turns/Domains are what should define a Cleric from a FS. Since we don't have the latter I think we should make turns more useful to justify this PRE and playing a Cleric again.

[sephiroth1084]

Agreed that it is worthwhile, in that it's worth 6 ap, but it's slow and at level 20 far from epic. Turns/Domains are what should define a Cleric from a FS. Since we don't have the latter I think we should make turns more useful to justify this PRE and playing a Cleric again.

That would be good. I'm all for those kinds of boosts to clerics; I was more taking issue with your tone regarding the ability I suppose.

It's loooong overdue that clerics should have received domains. If the devs are considering them at all, please take a look at the way Pathfinder treats clerical domains and wizard school specializations (something else we should have gotten long ago along with sorcerer bloodlines or heritages probably).