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    Default Tip for new Clerics

    Hotbar your spell components. Then you can see when you are running short before you realize that you can't cast a FoM or Death Pact. I know Cleric can be a hotbar-heavy class (13 hotbars, represent!), but you only need it on the hotbar that you can page through.
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    no, just leave them unlocked in your bag.

    every time you sell you will see how many you have left.

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    I have a hotbar up the top of my screen for consumables.

    i also keep my common item swaps up there... the number of times I've gone into quests with my guard mask on instead of my minos (bad me...)

    go to accept lfm - check up there. go to enter quest - check up there. standing around buffing - check up there....

    i have the memory of a goldfish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slink View Post
    no, just leave them unlocked in your bag.

    every time you sell you will see how many you have left.
    You could do that too.

    The point is:
    Be able to check how many components you have left so you can go buy some before you have to make up some lame excuse as to why your Death Pact "just didn't go off" and you've "absolutely no idea why...I clicked it when I buffed!"
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    Better yet, get 1000 of each, and it will take you forever to run out - I have still not cast a single spell that requires a component on some levels
    Check once or twice a month and you'll be fine.
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    If you are grouped with a low lvl paladin, ranger, or bard, that does not heal his/herself in between fights just wait to see if they die because of it. If they do, kick them for piking. (this could technically apply to everyone, but these guys have it much cheaper)

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    I don't know about bards, but most of the low level (below 7) paladins and rangers have their wisdom as dump stat and simply cant cast spells. Atleast I did with my pally, getting +2 tome at 7 allowed him to start casting spells. For potions/wands your argument goes for every class in game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwlech View Post
    If you are grouped with a low lvl paladin, ranger, or bard, that does not heal his/herself in between fights just wait to see if they die because of it. If they do, kick them for piking. (this could technically apply to everyone, but these guys have it much cheaper)
    Yes, but sometimes barbarians zerg, and you never know just when you will need a trap fixed, so dont look down on wizard18/rogue2 builds, even tho they mostly do it for UMD and the evasion and survivability.. Also, I think the AH prices are crazy, and why doesn't Turbine put in druids yet??

    As to the OP and his actual question.. the other guy got it 100% right.. just buy a huuuuuge stack of each type. When I was poor and just starting my first toon, I bought stacks of 300 and even this was more than enough to suffice. Just check it every week or so. A stack of 1000 will easily last a month or two, depending a bit on spell level and how often you game. Last thing I want is another hotbar to clutter up my limited real estate..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armoton View Post
    I don't know about bards, but most of the low level (below 7) paladins and rangers have their wisdom as dump stat and simply cant cast spells. Atleast I did with my pally, getting +2 tome at 7 allowed him to start casting spells. For potions/wands your argument goes for every class in game.
    Consumable self-healing is very cheap and reliable at low levels for these classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phalaeo View Post
    You could do that too.

    The point is:
    Be able to check how many components you have left so you can go buy some before you have to make up some lame excuse as to why your Death Pact "just didn't go off" and you've "absolutely no idea why...I clicked it when I buffed!"
    No idea except the message that comes up in the middle of your screen telling you that you are out of XXXX.

    At low level it works, at high level you won't have the hotbars to waste one on componants.

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    Every new Cleric, check by this thread: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=202343

    My new Cleric tips:

    Use the F keys to target party members

    Hit the diagonal arrow on your hotbar to open more hotbars. Hotbars can be used for swapping gear and consumables as well as spells. 4 hotbars is a good starting number, add more as you become more comfortable with your layout.

    Resist energy/Protection from Energy spells can be assigned to the hotbar specifically. If you are grouping with other new players make sure you can cast Resist Energy: Acid quickly if someone gets hit with an Acid Arrow. When you start encountering enemies that cast Cloudkill, party members should be carrying their own Resist Acid potions/wands/gear.

    'Wavecrasher Cargo Manifests' are collectibles that you can trade in for half-charged Cure Moderate Wounds wands. Let your wand-capable members know this, and have your Barbarians/Fighters supply you with these .

    Grouping with new Barbarians, especially Warforged ones, can be one of the most taxing experiences until you have access to the Heal spell at level 11. Avoid blind-invites or parties on the social panel that say "HEALER NEEDED". Even at level 11, you can use myddo to search a character's name and make sure they have at least Moderate Fortification.

    Instead you can set up your own groups and make sure you have a party that will capitalise upon Crowd-Control. This includes Tanks that Intimidate, Bards, melees that use Trip/Stun, Arcanes that use spells like Web or Charm, Rogues/halflings that do extra sneak attack damage, and Divine spells like Command, Soundburst, Hold Person, Holy Smite and Greater Command.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daggaz View Post
    As to the OP and his actual question..
    OP is a chick.
    Hinicetomeetchu.

    As to buying large stacks...
    Cleric/Monk. Monks cannot be encumbered for stances. Too much trash puts me in medium load, hence I buy stacks of 250.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phalaeo View Post
    As to buying large stacks...
    Cleric/Monk. Monks cannot be encumbered for stances. Too much trash puts me in medium load, hence I buy stacks of 250.
    :O

    If the weight of the spell components is something you have to worry about, you might consider the Eschew Materials feat :P

    I purposefully carry an excess of spell components, potions, wands etc. to discourage me from picking up loot on my halfling Clonks!
    (means that I have to farm collectibles on occasion)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JollySwagMan View Post
    :O

    If the weight of the spell components is something you have to worry about, you might consider the Eschew Materials feat :P

    I purposefully carry an excess of spell components, potions, wands etc. to discourage me from picking up loot on my halfling Clonks!
    (means that I have to farm collectibles on occasion)
    Eschew?
    Oh hell, no!

    TBH, it's actually a lot better after nomming a +2 STR tome, but I do like to keep the weight on the low side. You ever looked at the weight on Sib Shards? Holy ****, are those things ever heavy....

    Then again, I always "Loot All". I just can't leave anything in a chest except for dragonshards. +1 Lousy Guard Full Plate of Junk I? Looted. Pays for Hjeel Scrolls, etc. Normal questing isn't so bad, but I do 4-5 raids two nights a week and can end up in Med. Encumberance easily if I don't clear out first.

    Sounds like you have quite a few toons, too. I've only got the one I'm focusing on right now, so I grab what I can get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralgnax View Post
    Better yet, get 1000 of each, and it will take you forever to run out - I have still not cast a single spell that requires a component on some levels
    Check once or twice a month and you'll be fine.
    Even if you do this, make sure you keep track of how many you've got left.

    Boy, was my face red when I ran out of Firewall components when fighting the Dreaming Dark-boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phalaeo View Post
    Eschew?
    Oh hell, no!

    TBH, it's actually a lot better after nomming a +2 STR tome, but I do like to keep the weight on the low side. You ever looked at the weight on Sib Shards? Holy ****, are those things ever heavy....

    Then again, I always "Loot All". I just can't leave anything in a chest except for dragonshards. +1 Lousy Guard Full Plate of Junk I? Looted. Pays for Hjeel Scrolls, etc. Normal questing isn't so bad, but I do 4-5 raids two nights a week and can end up in Med. Encumberance easily if I don't clear out first.

    Sounds like you have quite a few toons, too. I've only got the one I'm focusing on right now, so I grab what I can get.
    I just can't bring myself to eat tomes - alt-o-holism, I think it's called..it actually goes quite well with grabbing collectibles, as I don't like 'farming' in terms of xp runs or exiting before the quest is finished. Dragonshards go to my tome-heavy-character-builder-less comrades when they realise they need to change 17 feats to get 10 extra damage on a critical against a magical evil donkey that only appears on every other thursday

    And over the last couple of days I have run a couple times with a TR fella that chugs a scary amount of SP pots to throw Firewalls around like an eternal wand - with very nice placement I may add, for the critical battles - he ran out of spell components both times though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralgnax View Post
    Better yet, get 1000 of each, and it will take you forever to run out - I have still not cast a single spell that requires a component on some levels
    Check once or twice a month and you'll be fine.

    For a cleric maybe.

    For any other sp user in the game... er no. Def not. As has been pointed out by another user... fw and haste in this game are so used that... er... yeah I have also been laughed at for running out of components on both my bard and sorc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeliCat View Post
    For a cleric maybe.

    For any other sp user in the game... er no. Def not. As has been pointed out by another user... fw and haste in this game are so used that... er... yeah I have also been laughed at for running out of components on both my bard and sorc...
    Well, this is a cleric class board, and I certainly can't say what other classes ought to do.

    I secure my components so I don't accidentally sell them in a brain-damaged moment of sell-before-bed, and sure as hell I'm not going to hotkey them - I have fifteen hotnbars as it is, and don't need another. I usually do my main inventory mini-game on Saturday morning (except when I forget), and have never been down more than 200 of anything - I guess if your consumption is higher, you may need to check more often, and possibly hotkey one key component - rat ears, or cheeseburgers or twizzlers or whatever nonsensical substance you may need to cast spell xyz.

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    After you know what spells you cast that require components (for a cleric, it is generally your most popular buffs), you'll have a good idea of which material component runs outs the quickest (for me it's level 4). You only need to hotbar that one, and everytime you need to refill, buy enough to top off (around 1000) your other components as well.

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