When an Epic Scroll Drops...

[Slap_Happy]

As a cleric who rolls on scrolls in Epic it becomes easy for me.

Let me roll on scrolls wether you think I need or not or go heal your ****ing self mate!!!!!
For the record I was not the healer in question. I have 2 high level healers 1 @20 FVS @19.
Both when doing epic will be rolling on bloodstone/spectrals/firestorm scrolls. Like it or not I actually have 4 mellee toons in the midst of leveling to 20.

Don't like my attitude np find yourself another healer.

You take that attitude of healers not rolling on scrolls you had best be rolling one up yourself to do epic with as that is the only healer your likely to see!

how do u do do epic on your lvl 19?

[krud]

Not exactly what happened here but It looks like I was right when the whole respec discussions came up more than a year ago.

[p3n1x0r]

my main is a cleric, lv 20 and i bound a bloodstone to me when i found it ages ago when i was new....oh well. as im stuck with a bloodstone on my cleric...i will be one who cant wait to get my hands on this scroll

[rest]

So... he has no other toons, and only one character slot? What crappy kind of account is that?? You say that "he only has the cleric no melee" like it would take so long for him to roll one up to get use of of the epic bloodstone. Did all the people who rolled on the scroll have the seal and the shard for the bloodstone already? If not, it could have sat in their ingredient bag for 6 months. Would you have started petty forum drama over that situation?

[Sweyn]

So... he has no other toons, and only one character slot? What crappy kind of account is that?? You say that "he only has the cleric no melee" like it would take so long for him to roll one up to get use of of the epic bloodstone. Did all the people who rolled on the scroll have the seal and the shard for the bloodstone already? If not, it could have sat in their ingredient bag for 6 months. Would you have started petty forum drama over that situation?

Actually yeah, some of the melee's only needed the scroll to craft. One of them might have needed the seal, i don't remember. However, seals are easy to get

[Emili]

Not exactly what happened here but It look like I was right when the whole respec discussions came up more than a year ago.

Oh, I expected all that also ... and have seen such a few times now.

[toughguyjoe]

You just don't get it, half of the people don't. Its has nothing to do with a healing class or a cleric. The same principles would apply if someone's ONLY toon was a melee, and he rolled for the SSR scroll. If you all think this has to do with cleric not getting a fiar chance, you are wrong

So his only toon was Melee.....Does he live in your home town? Do you guys have sleep overs where he shows you his account and while you are laying in your ninja turtles sleeping bags in your Spiderman feety pajamas did he tell you about how his cleric is his favorite toon and hes NEVER going to roll any other toons?

Unless you have this close of a relationship to the person, How can you even think to say what he ONLY has or WONT ever do with his account?

Like we say on Argo, Khyber Drama is Fail Drama.

[Sweyn]

So his only toon was Melee.....Does he live in your home town? Do you guys have sleep overs where he shows you his account and while you are laying in your ninja turtles sleeping bags in your Spiderman feety pajamas did he tell you about how his cleric is his favorite toon and hes NEVER going to roll any other toons?

Unless you have this close of a relationship to the person, How can you even think to say what he ONLY has or WONT ever do with his account?

Like we say on Argo, Khyber Drama is Fail Drama.

1) He told me in game

2) I used to have this guy on my friends list, and was never on his one melee, he was always on his cleric

3) And they are batman pajamas, not spiderman :P

[Sweyn]

So his only toon was Melee.....Does he live in your home town? Do you guys have sleep overs where he shows you his account and while you are laying in your ninja turtles sleeping bags in your Spiderman feety pajamas did he tell you about how his cleric is his favorite toon and hes NEVER going to roll any other toons?

Unless you have this close of a relationship to the person, How can you even think to say what he ONLY has or WONT ever do with his account?

Like we say on Argo, Khyber Drama is Fail Drama.

And besides what he MIGHT do in the FUTURE... simple curtesy would be to let the people who have it ready to craft get the priority. But w/e

[Gercho]

The concept that i dont agree with, is that looting something to trade it for something you need is more greedy that looting it for direct use. I fail to see the logic to call something greed and the other thing not. The value is the same in both cases, both people are equally greed rolling for that scroll.
Would be different if it was a bound item that you roll just in case in the future you tr your char into something that may use it... that would be greed, but tradeeable items have a direct value that you can use as soon as any other char.

[toughguyjoe]

And besides what he MIGHT do in the FUTURE... simple curtesy would be to let the people who have it ready to craft get the priority. But w/e

See heres the problem son.

First, Marvel trumps DC comicsw all the time, toss the batman jammies and grab Thor/Incredible Hulk. Its what the cool kids wear.

Second, You've been harping on the fact that he has ONLY a cleric. If you look up a post or two you'll see yourself admitting he has more than one toon.

Heres an anecdote. I was on my Barb in a EV6 run just yesterday. At the beginning of the run, the group leader mentioned that a couple people in the group had the Seal + Scroll of the Sword of Shadow. He made it clear that those people would be given Priority for the Shard(which did in fact drop) over other Melees which were not so close to crafting.

See what he did there? He made his intentions clear before doing the quest?

[DrakmireTS]

If you're going to make special exceptions for who can roll on what, make sure your list is exhaustive and is made known to the group before you start. Otherwise, greed the scroll. Everyone's contributing, everyone should be given the same shot at loot, unless someone's just piking.

[Krag]

1) Yes, but that isn't the point here
2) Yes, but in a greedy way, such as in selling it ect

How about those melee in the group that were contributing just as much as a cleric, and could actually use the scroll.

I guess it's just my opinion that those people should get priority, and not someone who has little use for it.



Yeah, they do have less rights. Because for some specific scrolls, they have no use for, while other members in the aprty can use it to craft.

Wow, just wow!
According to you I should put my next large scale up for roll since my intention to trade it for flawless scales is greedy and someone in this raid might want to craft with it

[Sweyn]

Wow, just wow!
According to you I should put my next large scale up for roll since my intention to trade it for flawless scales is greedy and someone in this raid might want to craft with it

Large scales drop for your name in the chest. While epic scrolls drop for the whole group. They are 2 different things and you can't compare them like that.

[toughguyjoe]

Large scales drop for your name in the chest. While epic scrolls drop for the whole group. They are 2 different things and you can't compare them like that.

So if in a future Mod, there are EPIC mobs in shroud that drop Large Ingredients ont he ground like Scrolls, unbound, and able to be picked up by anyone, that people who aren't crafting that day shouldn't roll on them?

[Krag]

Large scales drop for your name in the chest. While epic scrolls drop for the whole group. They are 2 different things and you can't compare them like that.

The difference escapes me. Both itemes are tradeable and can be used in "greedy" and "non-greedy" way. You really have to consider blacklisting people who sell large scales because of their greedy attitude.

[Sweyn]

So if in a future Mod, there are EPIC mobs in shroud that drop Large Ingredients ont he ground like Scrolls, unbound, and able to be picked up by anyone, that people who aren't crafting that day shouldn't roll on them?

Again, unlike scrolls, large ingred. are not class specific, any class can use them to craft. However, the bloodstone would be completly useles to a caster, it is different

[Sweyn]

The difference escapes me.

The difference is that scales are reserved for you in a chest, while scrolls are reserved for the party. Each person gets his/her large, but when a scroll drops not everyone gets his/her own copy. If you fail to see the difference, well i'm sorry

[Drakos]

Large scales drop for your name in the chest. While epic scrolls drop for the whole group. They are 2 different things and you can't compare them like that.

Why not? You can still put the Scale up for roll, and it doesn't bind. Unless your saying everyone gets a scale in the same chest therefor there is guarenteed to be more than one.

You said it yourself, the scroll drops for the ENTIRE party, not just those in the party who really really need it. As party loot every member has equal right to it, and since it is not bound it has equal value to all.

[DrakmireTS]

Mm...the thing is, scrolls aren't class specific at all. It's just a different form of currency. If two million plat dropped in a neat little bag on the ground instead of the scroll, it'd be roughly the same deal--it's a means to an end that everyone can take advantage of, in one form or another.