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    So I post a DQ lfm on my sorc (hoping for a torc ofc), we go in on leet and the monk pulls a greenblade and throws it up for roll. So the barbarian and the ranger roll on the item....... There are 4 casters in the group (2 sorcs, 1 FVS, 1 Wizard), all but the wizard already have a skiver or greenblade. The ranger of course gets upset and ragequits saying "this is bs, am leaving" and "I want it for its epic properties" when the monk doesn't accept his roll...

    Is it just me or does is that a little redonkulous, what are you forumites thoughts on such situations.

    Note: The ranger is now blacklisted from all of the raids I run.
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    Why does the barbarian want the green blade, are they really going to mele with it ? Maybe he was going to tr into a sorc ?

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    Did the Ranger roll the highest number, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antheal View Post
    Did the Ranger roll the highest number, then?
    Yes the ranger had the highest number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookyaction View Post
    Why does the barbarian want the green blade, are they really going to mele with it ? Maybe he was going to tr into a sorc ?
    The barbarian was talked out of wanting the item eventually, after he learned that it wasn't a two handed weapon...
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    The loot was owned by whoever pulled it.

    He could have melted it to make pretty colors.

    Anyone getting dramatic over not getting an item belonging to someone else...

    lame
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    As silly as it may sounds, the loot is from the original puller and he does whatever he wants with it.

    If its giving it to the ranger, its his choice. It could just as well be pulled and vendored.

    The only time that its guaranteeed something is yours, or that you even have a chance for it, is when its on your chest.
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    he put the item up for roll and the ranger wins
    not giving it to the ranger is just bringing a bad light onto the monk
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    The green blade WOULD be a nice off hand weapon for a dex ranger so I can see them being upset. However, it is much more useful on a caster so while I agree they should be upset, I don't think it should be at a level to even express it tithe group, even less to ragequit.

    Had the barbarian been the one I would agree, a ranger? Unfortunate sure but no worth a ragequit or /p flame

    plus, doesn't the epic version become even
    more of a caster item?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visty View Post
    he put the item up for roll and the ranger wins
    not giving it to the ranger is just bringing a bad light onto the monk
    Well, it'd be nice that he would have had the foresight to lay out his rules of who is a valid candidate, but that can get a little time-consuming. Hell, often people start rolling as soon as they see the item in the chest.

    Anyways. His loot, his rules on it's dispensation. I agree with his choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elricken View Post
    The barbarian was talked out of wanting the item eventually, after he learned that it wasn't a two handed weapon...
    Int as a dump stat... now that's role playing!!

    I don't agree with the ranger, but it takes more than a /ragequit after the raid is complete for me to put someone on a blacklist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrmnax View Post
    As silly as it may sounds, the loot is from the original puller and he does whatever he wants with it.

    If its giving it to the ranger, its his choice. It could just as well be pulled and vendored.

    The only time that its guaranteeed something is yours, or that you even have a chance for it, is when its on your chest.
    Precisely....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rimble View Post
    Well, it'd be nice that he would have had the foresight to lay out his rules of who is a valid candidate, but that can get a little time-consuming. Hell, often people start rolling as soon as they see the item in the chest.

    Anyways. His loot, his rules on it's dispensation. I agree with his choice.
    yes, if there would been something said befor any rolles, then its his right to ignore the ranger
    but from the OP that wasnt the case the honest person would give it to the highest roller, no matter who it is

    and rolls made befor the announcement that it is for roll get ignored anyway. or just change the dice for the rolling, then early rolls dont even count
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    It depends what you agreed upon when you started. There is a certain Quid Pro Quo to loot especially NBG. You agree give up an item you can't use now with the understanding that if the item you want pops the rest will do the same. However, if you just dive in without discussing it then you get anger and chaos.
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    If you are rolling on an item that seems odd for your class, a reason could be helpful. If the ranger would have stated he plans to TR as a caster, people would have understood. But there are plenty of new people in the game that roll on things just because they are raid loot. There are a number of casters and clerics that have Madstone Boots being wasted in thier banks because they thought the potency and striding were going to be useful. They did not realize how often rage would proc and lock out the casting ability. I am biased in giving away raid loot to a class that may not be able to put it to good use. But if I am skeptical, I will ask why they want it. I am sure there were many arguments when paladins started rolling for the Torc, but now we all know why, and it is somewhat expected that they will want it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elricken View Post
    So I post a DQ lfm on my sorc (hoping for a torc ofc), we go in on leet and the monk pulls a greenblade and throws it up for roll. So the barbarian and the ranger roll on the item....... There are 4 casters in the group (2 sorcs, 1 FVS, 1 Wizard), all but the wizard already have a skiver or greenblade. The ranger of course gets upset and ragequits saying "this is bs, am leaving" and "I want it for its epic properties" when the monk doesn't accept his roll...

    Is it just me or does is that a little redonkulous, what are you forumites thoughts on such situations.

    Note: The ranger is now blacklisted from all of the raids I run.
    It would have been acceptable to limit who can roll for it before hand. I will do this occasionally. If only one person meets the requirements and needs the item, I just give the item to them. The monk may have helped himself if he would have clarified the rules before hand. I think that is where a lot of feelings get hurt, is when the rules change mid stream.

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    I remember a DQ long ago on my wiz.

    I pulled a Marilith Chain. While i was looking at the party list, seeing who could use that, people started rolling. I said:

    "Whoever does 2 laps first on the outside circle gets it"

    The only person that promptly understood what i meant was the dwarf barbarian. He immeditely hit speed boost, started running and lagged a couple seconds, tossing himself down on the lava.


    Even then, the fighter was so slow in realizing that i was blatantly ignoring his 98 i 1d100 roll that the barbarian got back up, finished his 2 laps and got the chain. The original rolling fighter had not moved.

    Some people have a hard time adapting to the fact that in DDO its not a roll that decides who can have what.


    Usually i will limit who can roll on what. If i dont, and a odd choice makes a roll, i always ask why they need the item before giving it away. If a sorcerer answers that he wants Madstone Boots because of the potency, he isnt getting them. But i do him the favor of explaining madstone rage.
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    Was the ranger level 20 with the shard/scroll/seal already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrmnax View Post
    I remember a DQ long ago on my wiz.

    I pulled a Marilith Chain. While i was looking at the party list, seeing who could use that, people started rolling. I said:

    "Whoever does 2 laps first on the outside circle gets it"

    The only person that promptly understood what i meant was the dwarf barbarian. He immeditely hit speed boost, started running and lagged a couple seconds, tossing himself down on the lava.


    Even then, the fighter was so slow in realizing that i was blatantly ignoring his 98 i 1d100 roll that the barbarian got back up, finished his 2 laps and got the chain. The original rolling fighter had not moved.

    Some people have a hard time adapting to the fact that in DDO its not a roll that decides who can have what.


    Usually i will limit who can roll on what. If i dont, and a odd choice makes a roll, i always ask why they need the item before giving it away. If a sorcerer answers that he wants Madstone Boots because of the potency, he isnt getting them. But i do him the favor of explaining madstone rage.
    Thank you for this, i think i am going to duplicate this in my DQ raids, it would be priceless to watch some crazy Dwarf run himself into the Lava.....

    I am still laughing, hard to write this.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrmnax View Post


    "Whoever does 2 laps first on the outside circle gets it"
    I'm gonna borrow that one. +1

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