forgotten realms?

[ezgoezit]

It would also probably be 4E D&D.. so no chance of getting it "right". I live in Renton, WA (home of WOTC) and have gamed with WOTC employees and they say that everyone there still plays 3.5...

Vordax

Wow, that's interesting. I live in Renton, WA also and I work in the building next door to them. I talk with many people that work there as we share a coffee shop on the first floor of thier building and from what I see and hear, there is more 4ed being played than 3.5

Ez

[Yazston_the_Invoker]

You didn't play with the right DMs, v2.0's lack of rules is what made it more fun since you could fill in the blanks. Admittedly, you were too subjected to the DM's will so if you had a bad DM you were fooked.

I had 2 problems with 2nd edition, and that is actually one of them. I agree that not having defined rules, and as a DM, being able to decide on rules based on each situation is nice, but it led to waaaaay too many arguments, both because or rules lawyers/min-maxers not liking that the rules could not be used to their liking, and because of simple misunderstandings caused by different ways of picturing a specific scenario. Because of this, I like 3.0/3.5 better, but keep in mind, as a DM, you can also modify the rules, if they do not fit the situation, or give a +/- modifier, based on what you believe is necessary.

The other problem I had was with classes and multiclassing. While I thin 3.5 went a bit overboard with it, I think the base idea of being able to combine the classes the way it does is much more conducive to creativity and imagination than 2nd edition. I got tired of 2nd edition after a while, because it seemed that eventually you got into a mode where characters would become cookie-cutter imitations of one another. 3.5, although broken in its own right, allows much more customization.

And to the other posters...I've read 4th, spoken with people who have run 4th, and based on all available information, I will never play or run 4th myself. Out of all the groups I've spoken to that ran 4th at one point or another, all but one have stopped, and went back to 3.5, or are playing Pathfinder.

[grodon9999]

I had 2 problems with 2nd edition, and that is actually one of them. I agree that not having defined rules, and as a DM, being able to decide on rules based on each situation is nice, but it led to waaaaay too many arguments, both because or rules lawyers/min-maxers not liking that the rules could not be used to their liking, and because of simple misunderstandings caused by different ways of picturing a specific scenario. Because of this, I like 3.0/3.5 better, but keep in mind, as a DM, you can also modify the rules, if they do not fit the situation, or give a +/- modifier, based on what you believe is necessary.

Simple solution to mini-maxxer in PnP - don't play with them or go heavy RP so they'll get bored and leave.

[Yazston_the_Invoker]

i dont know about replacing ddo. i dont want that .. but i swore i read ,, iok i know i read a artical from a vid game mag. and it sure looked real.. but i dont have a good eye for all this new video age trickery.. i can only wish

I'd have to see it before I decide to replace DDO, but in the end, I can only handle one MMO at a time...I've tried 3, then 2, and I just cannot find the time to split between them, so now 1 is all.

And it's not an illusion...I read something about it no more than 2 years ago, and I am positive that it was an interview with the company that was developing it, and I am almost positive, it was actually IN development. Problem is, if it is in the middle of a legal battle, all of that is probably on hold indefinitely...

mmm...Ravenloft...now that IS an idea...

I think I'd still rather FR or Greyhawk, or a new setting with 3.5 (not 4.0) rules, but I agree, Ravenloft IS intriguing...

[Yazston_the_Invoker]

Simple solution to mini-maxxer in PnP - don't play with them or go heavy RP so they'll get bored and leave.

Oh, no problem with RP...all but one person that I have ever played with have enjoyed a RP-centered or RP-heavy campaign, but unfortunately, back then, I did not have the option to kick them, because those were usually the ones that were available most often, and the ONLY players that didn't have a screw loose...

Back in the day, it wasn't as easy as it is now to find good players for PnP, especially if you tell them before beginning that you don't give Vorpal Scythes to Lv8 characters. Seems like waaaaay too many people are of the monty-haul/videogame play style around me. :/


...still, I prefer to waste my time reading up on Grapple, as opposed to arguing with a PC as to why I will not let him leap from the floor to a chandelier 30 feet off the ground, then backflip onto a staircase on the opposite side of the room, while kicking his oponnent in the face on the way, even though he's wearing full plate, and has a dex of 11. Much easier to say, Roll jump, then tumble...oops, you are prone and take 2d6 damage from falling off a table onto some broken glass awkwardly.

[Tinrae]

I'm ambivalent about a Forgotten Realms game, but I so want the oft-rumored Elder Scrolls MMO.

[die]

Oh, no problem with RP...all but one person that I have ever played with have enjoyed a RP-centered or RP-heavy campaign, but unfortunately, back then, I did not have the option to kick them, because those were usually the ones that were available most often, and the ONLY players that didn't have a screw loose...

Back in the day, it wasn't as easy as it is now to find good players for PnP, especially if you tell them before beginning that you don't give Vorpal Scythes to Lv8 characters. Seems like waaaaay too many people are of the monty-haul/videogame play style around me. :/


...still, I prefer to waste my time reading up on Grapple, as opposed to arguing with a PC as to why I will not let him leap from the floor to a chandelier 30 feet off the ground, then backflip onto a staircase on the opposite side of the room, while kicking his oponnent in the face on the way, even though he's wearing full plate, and has a dex of 11. Much easier to say, Roll jump, then tumble...oops, you are prone and take 2d6 damage from falling off a table onto some broken glass awkwardly.

.. as for the ravenloft.. it would just be the castle... but nice could u imagin the random encounters.. 5 floors up 6 below traps secret rooms and then ..... if u survived it all.... maybe u would get too have dinner in count strahd

[Yazston_the_Invoker]

Wow, that's interesting. I live in Renton, WA also and I work in the building next door to them. I talk with many people that work there as we share a coffee shop on the first floor of thier building and from what I see and hear, there is more 4ed being played than 3.5

Ez

Well, that's what they say within earshot of the management...

j/k

[Yazston_the_Invoker]

.. as for the ravenloft.. it would just be the castle... but nice could u imagin the random encounters.. 5 floors up 6 below traps secret rooms and then ..... if u survived it all.... maybe u would get too have dinner in count strahd

If that's all, why not try to create it with Neverwinter Nights? For awhile, I was trying to create a version of Undermountain that would be true to the original boxed set, that could be run as a persistent world...even wanted to try to make a good facsimile of Waterdeep, or at least the Adventurer's Quarter, where the Yawning Portal is, but I just could never find the time...

[Vordax]

Wow, that's interesting. I live in Renton, WA also and I work in the building next door to them. I talk with many people that work there as we share a coffee shop on the first floor of thier building and from what I see and hear, there is more 4ed being played than 3.5

Ez

Obviously the building and coffee shop is bugged, and they have to maintain the company line.... get them away from there and you will learn the truth.

Vordax