Link to epic dq vid

[Quikster]

Ive been getting a lot of questions in pugs about intimitanking dq epic. I posted a vid in another thread and though id link it here, the quality is poor as im a vid newb.

[HeavenlyCloud]

vid newb! Nice video and quite entertaining :O really good strategy for epic DQ considering the damage you are taking.

[Quikster]

vid newb! Nice video.

I know huh. If you only knew the reality of it, i tried 6 different times to get a decent version loaded, that was the best one lol.

[maddmatt70]

I do not believe in shields. Against my religion and takes too long. Just fight from the back and she goes down quicker..

[Cashiry]

I do not believe in shields. Against my religion and takes too long. Just fight from the back and she goes down quicker..

your opinion does not matter.. have a nice day...

[Quikster]

I do not believe in shields. Against my religion and takes too long. Just fight from the back and she goes down quicker..

good for you. blanket statments like yours help ensure you are incorrect.

[Guildmaster_Kadish]

I do not believe in shields. Against my religion and takes too long. Just fight from the back and she goes down quicker..

Comparing it to Shade's earlier video with the 'fight from the back' strategy, she goes down in almost exactly the same amount of time. If you have an intimitank, you can a) put more people in on her in melee and b) have more melees and fewer clerics/rangers. An intimitank group could easily have more melees, and therefore potentially more DPS than an "everyone just beat on her from behind" group. Also, it allows the caster to nuke more effectively.

For example: 1 bard, 1 cleric/fvs, 1 sorc, 1 intimitank, 8 melees
As opposed to: 1 bard, 3 cleric/fvs, 3-4 melees, 1 sorc, 5-6 ranged

[Quikster]

Comparing it to Shade's earlier video with the 'fight from the back' strategy, she goes down in almost exactly the same amount of time.

I agree its pretty similar. Not really sure how much it matters though, a 10 min pug completion is plenty fast. Our dps was a little light as well, I've seen her go down much faster.

[maddmatt70]

Comparing it to Shade's earlier video with the 'fight from the back' strategy, she goes down in almost exactly the same amount of time.

Did a 2-3 rounder last week so no it does not. The reason is one less melee or ranged or spellcaster fighting her because that one person is holding a shield and pressing intimidate over and over.

[Quikster]

Did a 2-3 rounder last week so no it does not. The reason is one less melee or ranged or spellcaster fighting her because that one person is holding a shield and pressing intimidate over and over.

I've done it plenty fast with a tank. You are wrong.

[hasbeen]

not a bad video for a newb + 1 rep

[rjedi]

hey quik.... nice piking skillz

[Quikster]

Did a 2-3 rounder last week so no it does not. The reason is one less melee or ranged or spellcaster fighting her because that one person is holding a shield and pressing intimidate over and over.

holding her still so everyone else can unload on here more than makes up for the loss of one melee, also bringing one less healer would help too. Casters can ensure spells always land on here, nobody needs to range unless they are just super squishy.

All this is moot anyway imo as the raid doesnt take any longer than 10 min or so depending on how buff happy your group is. So really is it a huge deal? IMO its much easier to say, ok we got a cleric, a tank, a caster, lets fill the group with whoever, then have to worry about bringing heavy hitters with enough hp to stand toe to toe with her.

[vyvy3369]

Did a 2-3 rounder last week so no it does not. The reason is one less melee or ranged or spellcaster fighting her because that one person is holding a shield and pressing intimidate over and over.

Keeping her in one spot, with nobody taking any significant damage, is worth a party slot. By your logic, you have 2-3 people doing nothing but casting Heal spells on people and doing 0 DPS, whereas at least a tank is dealing guard damage to her.

A couple runs ago was the fastest I had seen, and it was less than 2 minutes between her first teleporting back to the middle and dying. But hey, there are plenty of ways to do it - quite often we see PUGs forming that are only looking for ranged DPS too. However, when we have an actual tank, the runs tend to go much more smoothly.

[Quikster]

Keeping her in one spot, with nobody taking any significant damage, is worth a party slot. By your logic, you have 2-3 people doing nothing but casting Heal spells on people and doing 0 DPS, whereas at least a tank is dealing guard damage to her.

A couple runs ago was the fastest I had seen, and it was less than 2 minutes between her first teleporting back to the middle and dying. But hey, there are plenty of ways to do it - quite often we see PUGs forming that are only looking for ranged DPS too. However, when we have an actual tank, the runs tend to go much more smoothly.

I still remember a certain guild telling me i couldnt tank her on elite Guess that theory is out the window

[soupertc]

hey Quik nice video. I was in a run where Henry did that on his tank....it very smooth. Seen Shades video too. We are the ranged DPS Puggers.....just easier that way with 8 to 10 people ya don't know. Always good to see different ways to skin cat...anyone who says the DPS is lackin is not correct. Run I did with you guys was as quick as our runs and Shades video imo.

[Quikster]

hey Quik nice video. I was in a run where Henry did that on his tank....it very smooth. Seen Shades video too. We are the ranged DPS Puggers.....just easier that way with 8 to 10 people ya don't know. Always good to see different ways to skin cat...anyone who says the DPS is lackin is not correct. Run I did with you guys was as quick as our runs and Shades video imo.

Yeah im all about getting completions, if you do that with all dps, ranged, or intimitank, im good with it all. I do like how some people come around with their, "tanks suxor dps pwns" talk though

[maddmatt70]

For example: 1 bard, 1 cleric/fvs, 1 sorc, 1 intimitank, 8 melees
As opposed to: 1 bard, 3 cleric/fvs, 3-4 melees, 1 sorc, 5-6 ranged

Who the heck says we run with 3 cleric/fvs.. I have run in there with one bard as healer and no that is not typical, but just this last set had 2 clerics on most runs and even no bard on one of them. An experienced melee knows what to do enough said.

I am overstating things, but the problem I have always had with the one trick pony intimidate characters is two fold: 1. you have to carry them through much of the content while they get the gear especially if we are talking about the super high intimidate shield bearing characters. Fundamentally, they take longer to kill things and contribute less. 2. the whole playstyle is boring. I just hit the intimidate button over and over and the other guys spoon what a bunch of XXXX. In the DQ raid its easy for a melee to melee, a ranged to range, and caster to cast. It is not rocket sceince by any means so why do you Quick need an intimidate character that you have to gimp through all the other raids. We all know you are a solid player so why this drivel.

My guildie cleen has a nice rogue, the hurtlocker, that does good dps, but can throw on the shield and intimidate as do others I know of so I am not totally against or foreign to the concept it is just as a way of things it sucks.

[vyvy3369]

My guildie cleen has a nice rogue, the hurtlocker, that does good dps, but can throw on the shield and intimidate as do others I know of so I am not totally against or foreign to the concept it is just as a way of things it sucks.

...what is it you think we do? I think the only time I see Quik with a shield on is in epic DQ or Hound. Most of the time is spent w/ PA on and TWF'ing, because the extra AC just isn't needed. However, having the ability to switch from DPS mode to AC mode as needed is one of the big perks of being a Fighter.

[Cetus]

awesome vid quick, now lemme ask u- wat intimidate do u need to get her? The numbers were a bit blurry for me to be able to resolve it effectively.