Are 36-point builds worth the additional 2 stat points?

[Shaamis]

Hello All, Shaamis here.

Im coming on the twilight of my first TR, and wondering if it is worth it to TR again.

First though, a few facts:

1) I TR'ed from a 20 monk, to another 20 monk, so not going for the completionist feat.
2) I made all of the corrections to the build I wanted, and very satisfied with my results.
3) I have eaten two +3 tomes and two +2 tomes.
4) the two additional points to stats wont affect my main stat (Str) and only my three other stats (Dex, Con, and Wis) marginally.
5) as far as I know, the wings we get flanking our character names stay the same as TR1s

So........

With that info, you think I should TR into a Monk again?

[Josh]

Hello All, Shaamis here.

Im coming on the twilight of my first TR, and wondering if it is worth it to TR again.

First though, a few facts:

1) I TR'ed from a 20 monk, to another 20 monk, so not going for the completionist feat.
2) I made all of the corrections to the build I wanted, and very satisfied with my results.
3) I have eaten two +3 tomes and two +2 tomes.
4) the two additional points to stats wont affect my main stat (Str) and only my three other stats (Dex, Con, and Wis) marginally.
5) as far as I know, the wings we get flanking our character names stay the same as TR1s

So........

With that info, you think I should TR into a Monk again?

No way Jose.

[Impatiens]

It's probably not worth it. You'll get 2 stat points to spend and a little extra damage from the passive past life feat at the cost of releveling with a higher xp cost. Especially since you've already eaten some +3 tomes and are happy with how your character is right now I'd say just stick with the 34 point build.

[Stamp3de]

If you think the +1 dmg, and +1 to
dex; +1 to reflex saves, +1 balance, +1 ac
or
con; +20 hps, +1 fort save, +1 concentration
or
wis; +1 will saves, attack dcs, +1 ac
is worth it.

I don't.
But then again I did it on my pally for +2 str lol.

[Alexander_Illusioni]

Most definitly you should. It will help the economy. With all the frustration you feel while TR'ing again, you will drink more beer. More beer equals expansion for the brewing industry. Therefore the whole economy will improve, so please, go for it!

[Belwaar]

Most definitly you should. It will help the economy. With all the frustration you feel while TR'ing again, you will drink more beer. More beer equals expansion for the brewing industry. Therefore the whole economy will improve, so please, go for it!

This.

[Mithran]

It depends on where you are with your character, in my opinion. For my Paladin (who had eaten only one +3 Tome) it seemed a good idea to buff her Charisma a bit. For my Ranger (4 x +3 Tomes, 1 x +4 Tome), it's just not worth it for one additional point of Constitution.

[Guildmaster_Kadish]

Most definitly you should. It will help the economy. With all the frustration you feel while TR'ing again, you will drink more beer. More beer equals expansion for the brewing industry. Therefore the whole economy will improve, so please, go for it!

LOL +rep.

[Eurytos]

Short answer: Depends on the build.

Longer answer:
A lot of builds won't need 2 extra points as the most it would give them is an extra bonus in a dump stat. On a build dependent on multiple stats (paladin for example) it could be worth doing. Or, of course, if you simply want your character to have the highest possible stats.

[Anderei]

I say it depends on your expected playing experience. If the game would otherwise start to bore you at the cap, TR again! If you rather would level another class do that, etc.

[redspecter23]

I'd say it's not worth another TR right now, but by the time the monk prestige enhancements come out, you may want to make some changes so that would be a great time to go for a TR again. It would also give you some time to stash some additional +3 or +4 tomes for that next life

[Aussieee]

How about look from different light, what else are you gonna do? There is only so much epic and end game content before it gets boring. If you are at that stage and would like the additional +2 stats do it,while I am at it why did you use your +3 tomes you!

[jones20992]

i plan on doing it but only for this reason ...

i have a level 17 monk that will be 20 and have all his gear soon

i have a level 8 barb that will clear the path of gear for monk doing the first tr as a barb

once i am on my 2ed tr back as a monk with the monk past life feat and the barb past life feat we will be a decent build with the lessons learned from the first life as a monk have the benefits as of the monk past life and 1 rage per rest that will stack with a rage pot/spell

[QuantumFX]

Personally, I wouldn't do it. You already got the best part of reincarnating your monk - Disciple of the Fist.

[NXPlasmid]

If you think the +1 dmg, and +1 to
dex; +1 to reflex saves, +1 balance, +1 ac
or
con; +20 hps, +1 fort save, +1 concentration
or
wis; +1 will saves, attack dcs, +1 ac
is worth it.

I don't.
But then again I did it on my pally for +2 str lol.

think about it, you don't even get that. Any 34 point build will already be where those 2 build points will only get you +1 attribute point and maybe not even that, so unless your 34 point build had an odd stat somewhere you won't get a +2 bump.... the second TR should really give you a 37 point build to be worth it as far as attributes go. oh and as to the OP, totally not worth the time, I'm not going to do a second TR on my monk either. getting the two past life feats is really the benefit. Ok, you do get a total of +2 to hit and damage (I guess) from the passive feats but....

[Peeker]

No.

I've seen chars who've reincarnated twice, who were not very impressive with to begin with. After it was all done, nothing had changed. They didn't come back suddenly uber. They look and play the same as before they ever reincarnated. Sorry. Never seen one reincarnated char make some kind of quantum leap in playability. If you built right the first time, you don't need to reincarnate. If you screwed up, reincarnate lets you fix your mistakes. 2 more build points aren't gonna change squat, from a second reincarnate.

On the other hand, if you have absolutely nothing better to do with your time, then hell.. reincarnate away.

[Shaamis]

No.

I've seen chars who've reincarnated twice, who were not very impressive with to begin with. After it was all done, nothing had changed. They didn't come back suddenly uber. They look and play the same as before they ever reincarnated. Sorry. Never seen one reincarnated char make some kind of quantum leap in playability. If you built right the first time, you don't need to reincarnate. If you screwed up, reincarnate lets you fix your mistakes. 2 more build points aren't gonna change squat, from a second reincarnate.

On the other hand, if you have absolutely nothing better to do with your time, then hell.. reincarnate away.

I read all of the sentiments and I am finding my thoughts are similar.

When I TR'ed the first time, I was able to fashion my stat points exactly the way i want them to be at 20th level and decided Strength was the stat to max (with a +3 tome in the bank of course).

When I saw I was going to lose some points in Dex, and hence AC, i decided to take my initial Int to 10, and use the +3 BtC Int tome I had to good use and get CE to make up for that in the right situations.

+2 Con, +2 Wis, and +2 Dex tomes rounded out everything well, and I was very happy at TR#1 lvl1 with the build.

since DDO doesnt have the hairstyle I want yet (half-bald ponytail like Gouken in SF IV) and there is no difference in between the wings for TR1 vs TR2s Ill wait and level other toons till I feel the need to TR again (and get a nice library of +3/4/5 tomes in the bank again :P)

Thanks all, seeya in game! <salute>

[Khellendros13]

I can tell you, needing to hit 289,500 xp for level 7 is painful when your TR1 friends are almost at 7.

I wouldn't do a TR2, and was not going to but had no choice due to the TR bug from update3.