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    Default oh here we go

    I do not remmeber game stopping lag for the prior two years I played from 06 till late 08 then I quit and went to DaOC.
    Try not to ignore all my comments to pull out the words you see fit to comment on ignoring the rest? DPS lag - fix turn off combat settings in UI (already mentioned), etc. etc. - Did i say it was all population? Did I not say f2p brought me back and is good for the game? - I am just recommending limits - f2p is one thing freeloaders is a waste of resources. I have no problem getting groups now for all P2P content - P2P not F2P - yes it has gotten better, I left partly because I was bored partly because the servers were dying -

    Just some ideas folks as the problem will get worse - so instead of quoting me - come up with some of your own ideas how to fix the problem, after all these are only ideas.
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    Lag??? What Lag??
    Don't you all remember? Fernando claimed months ago they were getting rid of the lag and there would be none!!
    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...51#post2264851
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    So, it's not ok to discuss why this particular idea would not be a good one nor work to fix the problem? I'm not making suggestions to fix the lag because frankly neither you nor I are qualified. This is not due to lack of expertise, but knowledge of the problem. Only Turbine knows their system architecture and its limits(software and network).

    Did you know Turbine migrated to both a new DC and new hardware? Yeah... never fixed the problem.

    What words have I skipped over? I gave you real answers and you glazed over them and continued to spout misinformation on population without even acknowledging that population is not the issue. If you were here as P2P, I shouldn't have to reiterate that lag sucked with exponentially less people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LawstCawz View Post
    So, it's not ok to discuss why this particular idea would not be a good one nor work to fix the problem? I'm not making suggestions to fix the lag because frankly neither you nor I are qualified. This is not due to lack of expertise, but knowledge of the problem. Only Turbine knows their system architecture and its limits(software and network).

    Did you know Turbine migrated to both a new DC and new hardware? Yeah... never fixed the problem.

    What words have I skipped over? I gave you real answers and you glazed over them and continued to spout misinformation on population without even acknowledging that population is not the issue. If you were here as P2P, I shouldn't have to reiterate that lag sucked with exponentially less people.
    you know what is even funnier then that post - to read all the other negative ones you have posted on other peoples threads - right - wrong or partially right - they are all funny - but I refuse to mud wrestle with a forum troll - you have your points and thank you for adding them and I have mine - and as you stated it is for turbine to know how to fix the problem.
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    How does the social rule work? Always pick on the weekest and assume hes the problem? Instead of the f2p players, aren't the zerging vets causing the lag? How about them moving to other servers? ... Yes, before you hit the neg rep. this was a joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by freelove View Post
    If you can not acknowledge skipping over my words why do you continue to think I am saying population is the only issue - I had to take a look at all your other posts to verify it was not just me and that new ideas or suggestions was just not in your make up ...

    and low and behold I am mud wrestling with a forum troll with no new strings posted only negative focused comments on others so with that good sir I wish you luck.
    ... lol. Ok. Maybe I misunderstood your solution? "Move f2p off servers because they're taking too much resources and causing lag." I'm not the only one who read it that way.

    I'll take focused as a compliment because I've been told I post like I have add.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freelove View Post
    I do not remmeber game stopping lag for the prior two years I played from 06 till late 08 then I quit and went to DaOC.
    Try not to ignore all my comments to pull out the words you see fit to comment on ignoring the rest? DPS lag - fix turn off combat settings in UI (already mentioned), etc. etc. - Did i say it was all population? Did I not say f2p brought me back and is good for the game? - I am just recommending limits - f2p is one thing freeloaders is a waste of resources. I have no problem getting groups now for all P2P content - P2P not F2P - yes it has gotten better, I left partly because I was bored partly because the servers were dying -

    Just some ideas folks as the problem will get worse - so instead of quoting me - come up with some of your own ideas how to fix the problem, after all these are only ideas.
    If you're only seeing lag in raids, it's DPS lag... not caused by other players, but by all the DPS your group is doing...

    Turbine DOES need to fix this, but moving f2p players won't help...

    I PUG most raids, so I'm not always with uber DPS builds... Running with average players, I never see lag in raids... Only when running with the uber DPS guys...
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    Some people brag about how fast they finished the game. I cant think of a stupider thing to brag about. Or in this game, going from level 1 to level 30 in two days, or however long it takes. I can't even begin to imagine what drives a person to think that is fun. You are ignoring all of the content and options and going for sheer speed. It is like going to a museum and bragging about how fast you made it through. Or bragging about how fast you finished a good steak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LawstCawz View Post
    The lag problem exists regardless of your rig or internet connection.
    Yes i know i think you just quoted me on that fact, the question i ask my self is WHY doesn´t the lagg hit me as often as my fellow grp mebers loacted on the American continent? (I will repeat my self: I do get lagg some times, but not enougth to complain about it.)
    I have had several incidents with quests when 5/6 mebers get hit by lagg and i don´t, all of them playing from the U.S.
    So if someone could enlighten me why that is (if not crappy connections), I would love to hear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddaedelus View Post
    If my lag issues are caused by my ISP, then my ISP is uncannily good at knowing when I'm in a boss fight because that's the only time it happens. And my computer is fine. It's clean, it plays far more graphically intensive games smoothly on max detail, and I've had no problems whatesoever with DDO until the last patch. This, added to the nature of the lag I experience, makes me much more inclined to believe what others have said in other threads: there is a bug somewhere on Turbine's side.
    Yes you may have noticed that i mentioned software issues or such on Turbines behalf, but i have played with enough players from the U.S or the American continent (this goes for Kiwi/Aussies sometimes aswell) to know that the lagg some have (more then some acctually) is caused by crappy connections as they confirm it as we run quests etc etc.
    Now i didin´t say your machine was crappy and i didn´t say your connection was crappy but if u get lagg and your on a *minimum*10 MBIT optical-line then you shouldn´t have any real issues.

    I played on the EU-servers on a 0.5 mbit line and a laptop when i started this game bk in 2006 and it was ok but i did DC more often when i was zoning in to areas: Market, Sands, GH etc.
    Now however, playing here with a 100 mbit optical i also get DC when zoning but very seldom and i get close to no lagg, it did hit me once out of mabye 10 runs in the shroud, and i have had some random lagg in the houses but very seldom as i said.

    So if Turbine can fix the little lagg that i have had (and it´s not worth complaining about as of yet) then sure go ahead and fix it, (this is not aimed as a reply to u ddaedelus)--->, but i know for a fact that lagg-monster was ere b4 f2p so i doubt that they are all to blame--->> IT `S ME ZERGING
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    I have the true fix to all your DDO lag press esc click quit lag gone *poof*

    Some stuff i've found to help with ingame lag is turning off all combat feedback in the game options untick all the combat feedback boxes while on your next shroud you'll really notice the difference. Also on a side note I remember having dps lag explained to me once by another player in shroud it was due to game sound and he had a fix for it and all but it was 3am and im sure you all know how well we listen @ those times. Something about changing some .ini file or something or other maybe someone else that knows of the "fix" may see this post and comment on it.

    Generally I tend to turn off combat feedback for shroud and Tower any other raids i dont seem to get the dps lag thing to the point it makes playing the game a issue. So i just turn off for those raids and back on again when I walk out.
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    Default And as mentioned in my post

    Lag exsists - period - great machine - tierIII cable modem connection - Some lag is detrimental to the game experience - If you are not experiencing game altering lag you may not be playing enough raids or quests - or you are right next door to turbine - I do not know but Lag is one of the major complaints in high end content with high end gear and among the power gamers I run with. Shroud wipes do to lag are happening many times a day some due to the party not having the firepower to power through it and sometimes just do to the lag (before you make a comment many groups I am in have one rounded Harry in part 4 so it is not the parties). It does get worse some days versus others so you may not be logged on when it happens.

    And yes you can dumb the game down and reduce lag to help your machine "bridge" the gap between its rendering time and the information it is receiving. Yes more DPS can increase lag, etc etc, etc, etc or ..

    We can add validation to our belief by agreeing that DDO should look into the problem by posting ideas and our problems on this thread. From what I hear and what I have read many have told me lag has been an issue for several years now (I did not experience it much when I played from 06 to 08 but I was splitting time between DDO and DAoC).

    Since we are consumers, we want to consume the best product. One of those options is DDO if it can catch up to many other games that have far less lag issues.
    If you do not believe me jump on some other games for a day and see how much less lag your same machine with the same connection will have.

    So let us add weight to this issue - as I for one would prefer less lag over zombie pirates and Ice games.
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    The lag is definitely Turbine's own fault, sure there are some people who do not have any but they are extremely lucky. If it is 50% of the population (pulling numbers out of my arse, but I am sure it is more than this), it is Turbine's fault.

    As everyone knows, it is DPS that causes lag. Do you think the majority of F2P players are running raids that require sustained high-dps? No. Moving them to another server will not fix the problem. Turbine needs to fix their code as moving their servers multiple times has not worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freelove View Post
    . One of those options is DDO if it can catch up to many other games that have far less lag issues.
    The problem is, no other MMO I know of allows that much attacks per second than DDO. Its more the game rules that cause the problem than the implementation.

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    Default Dedicated P2P server

    Lots of talk of moving F2P off of the server, how about the reverse? It would be great to have a P2P only server!

    This server would then get top priority uptime, processor time, maintenance, GM response, bandwidth etc.

    Also think of the other benefits- no freeloaders wasting your time, no more issues of some players being F2P for quests.

    Would be nice if DDO offered to move your entire account with all your chars with their equip etc. to a new dedicated P2P server.

    I think its great that DDO offers F2P as this brings in interested people that may eventually become P2P. At that stage it should allow the person to move to a dedicated P2P server for an all round better experience.

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