I ran two shrouds last night. In each one, someone bailed fairly early in the quest. Do people not understand that this is really rude? DCing is one thing... it happens to everyone. But when you DC, and then the party gets a message that you left the group a few minutes later, we know what it means: you reconnected and logged into a different character.
Far, far worse was the guy in a different run that announced "I'm out" right before part 4. He proceeded to send a tell to the leader that he had to take care of his kids. Fine. Real life trumps the shroud. No problem. The group leader mentions that he is skeptical due to past bad behavior with this guy. As with anything, you take it with a grain of salt.
That is until the group fails in part 4. Looking at the LFM panel, I see that super-dad is in a Rainbow in the Dark group. Not cool. This is the kind of thing that people remember. There aren't so many people that run raids late night Pacific time that you can burn bridges like this and expect to be welcome in every PUG.
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03-16-2010, 02:32 PM #1Community Member
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Dropping group mid-Shroud is not ok
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03-16-2010, 02:46 PM #2Community Member
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Just /squelch and move on. Eventually they won't be able to find groups. No reason to let it in your head.
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03-16-2010, 03:00 PM #3Community Member
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Yeah, agreed. It's just too bad you can't make bad/rude players read the forums.
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03-16-2010, 03:05 PM #4Community Member
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This hasn't been a problem until now...I'd never seen anything like this...until they opened it up to f2p.
No offense to those guys, but there are some really bad apples joining the game...we didn't have this problem when the raid was first released...unless I'm just not remembering.S E N T I N E L S
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03-16-2010, 04:01 PM #5Community Member
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HA. I had a friend in my group yestarday he lost con and while he was lagging his way back he chooses a wrong character to load in! :Eeek: We finished without him and I get to make fun of him for a long time so go and blacklist as much as you want I think it's funny too
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03-16-2010, 04:29 PM #6Community Member
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The shroud is broken fix it.. Lock all chests in the Shroud until completion that is all. Then you can be certain everybody works as a team the whole quest like all other quests/raids in DDO.
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03-16-2010, 04:40 PM #7Founder
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Originally Posted by maddmatt70
Only fix Lag, rest is fine, leave chests as they are.
Losing just one person, even a healer should not equal failure.
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03-16-2010, 04:48 PM #8Community Member
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The Shroud is intended to be taken in phases with the option of the group to stop at any point, and get apropriate rewards for the progress made. This does not make it ok to drop mid-run, but no the shroud is not broken it is working exactly as it has and will always be intended. Originally Posted by maddmatt70
I would give links to the many threads calling for the same thing but I do not think that would change your thoughts on the matter.
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03-16-2010, 04:56 PM #9Community Member
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It may if it were the only main healer in group... Originally Posted by Bracosius
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03-16-2010, 05:05 PM #10Founder
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I was about to put that disclaimer in, but after thinking about it, I never see pug groups brave enough to leave with only one healer. And the guild groups that run with one healer are generally good enough that even if they lose the healer, they can complete. Originally Posted by Emili
Therefore, my statement stands, with no discalimer.
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03-16-2010, 05:38 PM #11Community Member
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I don't disagree with the sentiment, but that goes against the overall idea of the design of the Shroud, so it is not really a reasonable solution. Originally Posted by maddmatt70
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03-16-2010, 06:32 PM #12Community Member
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Originally Posted by Aussieee
HA. I had a friend in my group yestarday he lost con and while he was lagging his way back he chooses a wrong character to load in! :Eeek: We finished without him and I get to make fun of him for a long time so go and blacklist as much as you want I think it's funny too
That was the group that Songblast lead, correct? If so, your friend was the first person I mentioned. Good to hear the back story on that one. I normally reserve judgment on that kind of thing, but I had just gotten out of the group with the guy that left (and lied about it) so he could run Rainbow... so yeah, I assumed the worst.
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03-16-2010, 06:48 PM #13Community Member
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Yes the same one, and I did put it in party chat when somebody asked. It was quite funny getting tells from my friend all mad about it too Originally Posted by zed1
That was the group that Songblast lead, correct? If so, your friend was the first person I mentioned. Good to hear the back story on that one. I normally reserve judgment on that kind of thing, but I had just gotten out of the group with the guy that left (and lied about it) so he could run Rainbow... so yeah, I assumed the worst.
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03-16-2010, 07:05 PM #14Community Member
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Imagine the power of griefing the healers would have if they all simply left prior to finish if no one got chests until part 5. I would rather not give that to someone, or group of someones.
Sometimes folks leave the Shroud. Sometimes it is legit (It has happened to me twice over the time it has been opened), sometimes it is rude behavior. Find those that are rude, and exclude them. Keep a list, and warn raid leaders that those folks are a problem. Be ready to finish with less than 12.
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03-16-2010, 07:24 PM #15Community Member
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You've mentioned this before and got flamed for it! Move on. Its a bad idea! Originally Posted by maddmatt70
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03-16-2010, 07:30 PM #16Founder
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Unfortunately posting threads like this really just gives more people that would particiate in such ridiculous behavior the idea to do so.
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Not only flamed, but flat-out proven wrong, complete with dev quotes. Originally Posted by SaisMatters
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